Update: I got banned from hexbear and grad lmao
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Ah, I see you said something controversial, like “Theocracy bad” or “Imperialist capitalist state bad”. The tankies don’t like those positions for some reason.
Bruh I poked the hexbear once when a dude was arguing over exactly how to classify the Uyiger genocide. Something about how “it’s not a genocide, but just an ethnic cleansing” they really didn’t like when I pointed out just how weird of an argument that is. Fascists usually short circuit pretty fast under redicule
it’s not a genocide, but just an ethnic cleansing
Those are synonyms, FFS. 🤦♂️
Dude needs to crack open a dictionary or a thesaurus.
It’s only a genocide if it comes from the state of Germany. Everything else is just sparkling ethnic cleansing. /S
I had one argue “the Soviet space program did amazing things without the benefits of imperialism”, which is a statement I can only ridicule. Then, to prove how not imperialist the Soviet Union was, he proceeded to explain how much imperialism the United States did. Yes, I’m quite aware of how much imperialism the United States did. That’s not the issue here.
I originally joined Lemmy with a lemmy.ml account by mistake. I was arguing with a brainlet who told me the Soviets could not possibly have been bad because they fought the Nazis. When I asked what that meant regarding apartheid USA I got banned from .ml.
You see what makes a Nazi isn’t actually killing millions of people. It’s only killing millions of Russians. The reason why the Nazis are evil is not actually because they are evil but because they went against the Russians.
That’s how many of the Russians see it anyway, and by extension many tankies. The only difference is tankies have to try and sound reasonable to a Western leftist audience.
apartheid USA
What?
I am an idiot, I should have written “segregated.”
If you want the really specific term, it’s Jim Crow, after the Jim Crow laws passed in the south after reconstruction. The effects of Jim Crow reach us today and will for a long time
oh you spoke to the developers too? haha
If you simply choose to embrace the same euphemism for genocide as them and also pretend that having a euphemism excuses the genocide, then you could get along.
All I did was point out how their meme responses were childish and cringy.
Banned.
My experience on lemmy is vastly improved after blocking lemmygrad, lemmy.ml, hexbear, beehaw, and pawb. Wiped out vast swathes of degenerates from my feed.
Sure, occasionally poking them with a stick can be funny, but if you don’t like your scrolling punctuated with muttering “oh fuck off” under your breath every few minutes – it’s nice.
Beehaw? I’ve had nothing but good interactions with them, personally.
I can’t remember why I blocked them exactly, to be honest, but I remember thinking they were almost as annoying as hexbear users, and I can’t be bothered to go have a second look now to see exactly why. Clearly, I was annoyed with them enough to block them, as the ones I listed above are the only instances I have blocked save for lemmynsfw (which is just because I don’t care for porn in my feed).
Beehaw’s primary identity as an instance is “to be nice to people” which you know what, that’s fine, but personally I think it’s super annoying lol. Also there are some users from that instance who were also outspoken and especially annoying but I don’t see them commenting as much these days.
Most instances that are “nice to people” have the tendency to not allow most opinions and their admins are prone to powertripp. I think their instance basically shut down due to funding, thats the last info i had.
Beehaw has been… difficult. If you disagree that something is *phobia or *phobic then it’s a quick way to get them mad at you.
I remember somebody ( person A) getting especially angry because another person (person B) used the pronoun “them” to refer to person A. It was pointed out that not every client shows the pronouns beside the username and still it was considered *phobic.
That sounds frustrating. I understand what their instance is all about and I want to believe they’re mostly decent people who sometimes wrongly lash out at perceived slights.
I would like it if the Beehaw admins actually enforced their rules, but you don’t always get what you want
They’re alright now, but they used to be pretty bad. No negativity allowed whatsoever.
I remember there was some sort of thread asking disabled people if they like being disabled…
and the people who said no were banned for being negative lol
Beehaw? The most adorable place in the lemmy space IMO!
If you don’t like them fine, but please reconsider lumpung them together with the crazy fascist ones please 😊
There’s plenty of fascism on Beehaw.
??? (Mostly) Nothing wrong with Beehaw or pawb.social, most are good people around those parts
now I might not remember why I blocked beehaw but I know damn well the animal fetishists are not “good people”, thank you
and just from your instance name… yeah that’s another one for the list
Animal fetishists?! You mean… furries?
I think we have a relict from the mid-2000s in our midst, back when half the internet was in open war with furries.
Guy uses “degenerates” straight and is complaining about commies, progressives and furries. 90% they’re a cryptofash.
I’m too lazy to look through their comment history at the moment, but you’re probably right.
You dont have to look far. Literally just this thread
Hating on beehaw makes perfect sense, then. Fascists and an empathy-negating neurosis, generally due to early childhood trauma in that area, name a more iconic duo. All those other things (commies, progressives, furries) actually have their fascist versions but hippies? Forget it. Incompatible in principle.
There’s a lot of weird hippie cults, including Charles Manson’s. If your hippieism leans towards the aesthetic then it’s perfectly compatible with fascism. Not to mention the weird Californian ideology that isn’t straight fascism but sure is authoritarian in its anti-authoritarianism.
Fascism is by definition syncretic. It eats whatever it finds and makes more of itself, with rigid power structures and might makes right logic. Every large enough movement can have a fascist version of itself.
actually have their fascist versions but hippies? Forget it. Incompatible in principle.
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♪ Knock-knock at your front door ♪
♪It’s the suede denim secret police ♪
♪ They have come for your uncool niece! ♪
Thank you for pointing this out, I was quite surprised it got this many upvotes.
There’s no commies on Hexbear. MLs are socialists, not communists.
You can’t be serious…
I know, it must be hard for kids to understand a time before they were born, but don’t worry, someday you’ll be explaining the facts of life to youngsters yourself.
Man, I was in the trenches of online forums at the time. I was PART of those times. I just eventually grew up past being an edgy preteen.
The lolocaust was specifically about furries that liked to spam furry porn and be obnoxious. They deserved what they got. https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Something_Awful
so just to recap, you gained a newfound appreciation for animal fetishists, and you… think that’s a sign of maturity and growth?
okay then. I’ll just leave you to it then, champ, you have fun with that <3
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NGL I thought my instance had gone off the rails while I wasn’t looking for a second there. Getting lumped in with hexbear and .ml is pretty rough. Beehaw? Good company imho.
The worst part is his comments were upvoted a lot when I commented that… there’s probably a few chaps who have the impression that everyone on the furry instances is the reincarnation of Lenin now lol
Yeah… especially considering our general stances on things, that inversion really sucks. Hopefully this isn’t a common opinion.
Reading that actually made me double-take and check the modlogs. It was so…. Confident.
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You read text, you don’t listen to it
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You must have come from 10 years ago because nobody has opinions as cringe and childish as “furries bad zoophiles” anymore
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one word answer
Nah that’s not how the world works buddy. Only children think in binaries.
okay, just one question: do furries/does furry porn sexualize animals, yes or no? No mental gymnastics allowed, one word answer.
You asked two questions and tell me to give you one answer. Nice try senator.
Also a majority of things require answers more complex than a simple “yes” or “no”, because the world isn’t the simple land that it seems to be in your head. However, luckily for you, these questions do have relatively simple yes-or-no answers.
To your first question: No, furries don’t by default sexualize animals. It’s weird that you even come to the conclusion that they do.
To your second question: Also no. You can argue that furry art is usually depictions of animals, and that furry porn sexualizes those depictions, but even that’s pretty shaky because anthropromorphized beings that have a vague resemblance to animals are hard to argue as being similar enough to the real thing that it’s “sexualizing (a depiction of) [animal]”. I wouldn’t call you out on saying that furry drawings are depictions of animals, even though I think that’s flawed logic, but it’s not even remotely similar to “sexualizing animals” (e.g. zoophilia)
also this
Unluckily for you, my friend, I took a screenshot when you posted that since I had a feeling you would edit your mistake out. You may be playing chess in 4 dimensions, but I’m playing chess in 7 dimensions. Get pranked lol
do furries/does furry porn sexualize animals, yes or no?
pretty sure animals aren’t asexual
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I don’t know, yiffit folks seem very nice. Not always safe for work, though.
I think my instance already bans beehaw, though. I forget why, unfortunately.
Didn’t beehaw defederate from lemmy.world a year ago because they felt it had a bad influence on itself? Mb not theexact reason’ but something like that scratches my mind
Beehaw wanted to be its own thing and didn’t trust outside users to follow their specific rules. So they defederated to be their own network, which was a really bad idea. Though it contributed a lot to SJW’s growth, so that’s something
I mean seeing how negative and pissy some sects of the users are on lemmy.world, I can’t really blame them. The technology and gaming community on there are so unhelpful and the comments are just variations of “enshittification” or “modern gaming/tech sucks” which…yeah we know, we’re on Lemmy.
At least Beehaw users, in my experience, actually read the articles and discuss the topics at hand. Even if there is a lower userbase to engage with, I end up learning something new or productive.
They defederated from most of the instances and are almost irrelevant now.
I did say something controversial (apparently) on grad and simply asked what I said wrong and having an open mind showed that they can interact normally… But Hexbear is just straight up poisoning me lol
I recently added midwest.social to my list.
I guess I understand, but I dig through all the shit to bring my starving people fresh maymay each day anyway.
Its not much, but I do it for those ungrateful bastards just the same.
You blocked lemmy.ml? Why
Beehaw and pawb are peculiar blocks but .ml can be a bit trying. Many users have been swept into, what they believe to be, militant communist zeitgeist. Their opinions exist within an echo-chamber surreptitiously safeguarded by their extremely banhappy admins. Mind that it would be acceptable if they were to openly offer their rule list, including “do not criticize communism, communists, communist countries, China, Russia, or the war in Ukraine” but they refuse to do so given how unpopular and weird that would be if it were visible to their users. If you care to verify, post a picture of tank man or suggest that Russia should leave Ukraine in one of their communities and enjoy your two week vacation from .ml.
Users range from confused and corralled to militant and chronically angry and many don’t understand why. Frankly, most .ml users are fine but their communities are breeding grounds for frustration, delusions, and misinformation. The prime example of admin sanctioned crazy goes by the name of yogthos if you, once again, wish to verify.
Gladly most of them blocked us(ani.social), i only blocked Lemmy.world and Midwest.social one for spam and one because seahorse is a powertripping asshole.
Wow, your reasoning is uh… well it sure is interesting… can’t say I see where you’re coming from. lemmy.world is like the most conservative instance I can think of
idunno if criticism of Israel can automatically be antisemitic when they’re a diverse country of different ethnicities and religions.
I can screenshot your comments as well, doesn’t make them more or less correct. I stand by what i said, lemmy.world is full of people i would call woke, or rather fall into the woke spectrum of my country.
This is objectively correct and downvotes won’t change that.
And when LW is the most conservative instance you can think of, i think your moral compass is upside down. I did see some “conservatives” (nazis) on LW but the majority belongs to the new left movement, especially regarding their antisemitism.
lemmy.world is full of people i would call woke
That’s because you’re an idiot conservative
And when LW is the most conservative instance you can think of, i think your moral compass is upside dow
Conservatism vs liberalism bas nothing to do with someone’s moral compass you dipshit
People like you are the reason why so many people go towards the right side.
Fuck you.
Also you are literally a fucking nazi and exactly what i criticize on LW, your instance is worse but most shit doesn’t get federated, besides the piracy community.
Now respectfully, reconsider all your life choices and fuck off.
People like you are the reason why so many people go towards the right side.
If someone turns fascist because their skins so think they can’t handle a random from the Internet insulting them: that’s because they were human trash to begin with
Also you are literally a fucking nazi
Nice projection
Now respectfully, reconsider all your life choices and fuck off.
More projection. It’s so cute how mad you ignorant fascist fucks get when challenged by a basic insult
Watch your blood pressure, I’m sure someone as terminally online as you probably has issues with that kind of thing
Bro you are literally a no lifer that gone out of their way to downvoted all my recent comments and posts, you are the very definition of a fucking clown Nazi. Also i said fuck off. I mean it just go be a unbearable person somewhere else.
People like you are the reason why so many people go towards the right side.
If your worldview is so fragile that a couple mean comments turn you into a hateful shit bag rightoid, you were never on the left to start with, you’re just looking for some #walkaway excuse
Also you are literally a fucking nazi
“Everyone who disagrees with me is a Nazi” makes you look like the child you are.
Now respectfully, reconsider all your life choices and fuck off.
Take your own advice, and also go touch some fucking grass.
Pray tell, which of the instances have you spotted that are less leftist than lemmy.world? The only ones I can imagine are lemmy.ca and midwest.social, but that’s just a guess.
Also what do you mean by “new left” movement? There are a lot of left movements, but not really any that I can think of that diverge greatly from previous left movements.
“Woke” doesn’t mean anything. It’s a vague, catch-all term used by chuds, for “lefties” and people who want social equality usually, which is obviously not a bad thing, so you must not be using it in that sense.
You seem to already have read the thread. Go look there.
Oh and there are instances that just practice full free speech as long as its not illegal where they host LW bans people for speaking the truth, especially regarding Israel vs Russia and Iran(by proxy)
The new left is the Israel hating crowd of the left because its against imperialism or something stupid along those lines. Oh also they are hyper sensitive regarding the use of words they feel like it could hurt someone, and im not talking about the n-word or similarly high grade insults. Also these people tend to speak for people they don’t know and who don’t associate with them, wich is especially bad jn my country because these idiots want to completely change our language because its “more inclusive”
Im politically Old left, workers unions, reasonable climate policies, inclusiveness where it is necessary and reasonable and so on, these people in the “woke” spectrum are usually the people that pipeline people to the right with their unintelligent and crazy behavior.
And woke is just a good fitting therm for the new left idiots, because these people made this therm about themselves.
Oh and there are instances that just practice full free speech as long as its not illegal where they host LW bans people for speaking the truth, especially regarding Israel vs Russia and Iran(by proxy)
I have not seen a SINGLE one of those instances. And my instance federates with literally everything except for like 3 instances. I’m not saying you’re making things up, but outside of extreme fringe communities, almost every (large) Lemmy instance is as “woke” or more “woke” than lemmy.world. lemmy.blahaj.zone, lemm.ee, lemmy.ml, probably even sh.itjust.works (that one’s debatable), lemmy.dbzer0.com, sopuli.xyz… I can go on and on. Leftism is way more prevalent in most of those. And yes, the kind that says you shouldn’t displace millions or be sexist.
The new left is the Israel hating crowd of the left
A large chunk of the left has always been anti-Zionism and pro-self-determination, because Israel is literally modern-day colonization. This isn’t anything new. The official government of Palestine is full-on Socialist, and it was founded 80 years ago (with other major leftist groups in Palestine dating back even before the Israeli colonization). It’s just the difference between the “leftists” who are okay with an ethnostate perpetrating an ethnic cleansing (Israel), and the leftists who aren’t.
because its against imperialism or something stupid along those lines.
For a lot of people that’s part of the reason, but most of the reason is they’re against the displacement, ethnic cleansing, and genocide of Palestinians that started during the colonization of the area by modern-day Israelis. The ruling party of Israel and most of the other parties in the government are descended from organizations that literally described themselves as terrorists, and butchered the population of Palestine since the early 1900s. And, get this, the dominating organizations during this era aligned themselves with Nazism – the Lehi (a faction of the Irgun, modern day Likud – Netanyahu’s party and Israel’s dominant party) proposed an alliance with Nazi Germany as they saw Great Britain as a larger threat to Jews. They described themselves and their members, I’m not even joking, as “National Bolshevik terrorists” (nazbols/communist nazis). Go figure.
Many of the members of government actively cheered on or committed genocide, and everyone alive knows someone who participated in the displacement and ethnic cleansing of Palestinians. The area didn’t just go from its population of 90% Muslim and 2% Jewish in 1800, to 81% Muslim and 8% Jewish in 1890, to 32% Jewish in 1947, to 89% Jewish in 1948 (the year the Nakba/ethnic cleansing of Arabs started), using kind words and diplomacy. (Jewish Virtual Library). Europeans encouraged Jews to colonize the area (which hadn’t been populated by Jews in large numbers since the 5th century) in order to get them out of the country (the early British Zionists in particular were keen on taking all the Jews in the UK and shipping them off to Israel, as antisemitism was the norm in western Europe until the whole World War 2 thing), and gave those newfound Israelis the weapons to blow up a whole lot of natives. These migrations were simply called Aliyah, and they happened in a few waves.
It is a state that is built upon, and cannot exist without, “Jewish supremacy”. It’s in the constitution, it’s in the law, it’s in their flag, it’s in the Muslims & Arabs in the country not having the civil rights of Jews, the entirety of Israel exists specifically to be an ethnostate. And the foundation of Israel was by parties who aligned themselves with Nazi Germany, and who took great inspiration from them.
When you’re “leftist” – that is, when you’re for abolishing unjust hierarchies and moving towards social equality – the concept of Israel and its former and current actions is inherently counter to your ideology. There’s absolutely no getting around that.
Oh also they are hyper sensitive regarding the use of words they feel like it could hurt someone, and im not talking about the n-word or similarly high grade insults.
What words are these, exactly? If they’re not slurs then I don’t see what you’re talking about. Unless you’re referring to people talking about microaggressions – which is the linguistic phenomenon of biases against certain social groups being conveyed in language, which propogates harmful beliefs. You know, saying women or asians can’t drive well, saying you wouldn’t want to have a woman perform surgery on you, saying a guy hugging another guy is gay… obviously those are pretty shitty things to say.
Im politically Old left, workers unions, reasonable climate policies, inclusiveness where it is necessary and reasonable and so on, these people in the “woke” spectrum are usually the people that pipeline people to the right with their unintelligent and crazy behavior.
Yeah nah man you’re waffling. There is no “old left”. The left is more or less the same philisophy-wise; there are socially conservative people and socially progressive people – you, my friend, seem to be describing yourself as a mildly socially conservative social democrat. There’s nothing more old or authentic or original about your philosophy – it’s just German centrism.
And woke is just a good fitting therm for the new left idiots, because these people made this therm about themselves.
The usage of the term in the social progressive context literally dates back to the 1930s. That’s almost certainly older than even your parents. How can you claim that that’s characteristic of the “new left” when it’s been around in use longer than your country’s even existed?
It’s just the difference between the “leftists” who are okay with an ethnostate perpetrating an ethnic cleansing (Israel), and the leftists who aren’t.
Far as I’m concerned it’s ethnostate vs ethnostate. Although I question how a diverse country can be an ethnostate.
The ruling party of Israel and most of the other parties in the government are descended from organizations that literally described themselves as terrorists, and butchered the population of Palestine since the early 1900s.
Both regions have these roots though, with Gaza still having a terrorist organisation as its government.
And, get this, the dominating organizations during this era aligned themselves with Nazism – the Lehi (a faction of the Irgun, modern day Likud – Netanyahu’s party and Israel’s dominant party) proposed an alliance with Nazi Germany as they saw Great Britain as a larger threat to Jews.
again, both regions did. The region at the time was a proxy war between Axis forces and Allies. Israel later sided with Britain, and the Palestinians later sided with the Axis
The area didn’t just go from its population of 90% Muslim and 2% Jewish in 1800, to 81% Muslim and 8% Jewish in 1890, to 32% Jewish in 1947, to 89% Jewish in 1948 (the year the Nakba/ethnic cleansing of Arabs started), using kind words and diplomacy.
Hey! You’re leaving out the UN resolution to establish two states. Jews had to flee Palestine because the League of Arabs declared war on Israel. To this day, Jews still can’t find a home for themselves in arab nations. It was also Palestine and the League of Arabs that refused the two-state resolution. So don’t be implying there were no kind words and diplomacy.
Israelis the weapons to blow up a whole lot of natives.
uhhh, you do realise that Jews were also native to the area, right? Like long before Muslims colonised.
It is a state that is built upon, and cannot exist without, “Jewish supremacy”. It’s in the constitution, it’s in the law, it’s in their flag, it’s in the Muslims & Arabs in the country not having the civil rights of Jews, the entirety of Israel exists specifically to be an ethnostate.
Can you prove this? From what I’ve read about their laws, there’s nothing mentioning jewish supremacy. That is unless you consider the illegal settlements in the West Bank to be legitimate.
Halbe Bibel ganzer Hurensohn
but the majority belongs to the new left movement, especially regarding their antisemitism.
You’re one of those that believe any criticism of Israel is antisemitic, aren’t you?
Fuck Israel, Jews are cool, and fuck you.
Average lemmy world terrorism supporting nazi shitlord. Go fuck yourself you know full well its not criticism to call genocide and what not when a country defends itself. Are you going to scream genocide now that Ukraine invaded Russia? Cause of you do, you are a troll nazi, if not you are a hypocritical nazi.
I am calling Netanjahu a nazi shit head regularly, this doesn’t mean Israel should stop a war they didn’t start, and anyone wanting that is either a idiot supporting Terrorists unknowingly or a 100% nazi terrorism supporter, and im calling it nazi because hamas and many other islamist terrorists groups are the children of WW2 nazi propaganda, especially anything that has to do with Iran. There is valid criticism, but on lemmy, especially lemmyworld there is just the terrorism supporters or the few people wanting Israel to exterminate the terrorists by all means necessary.
But seeing you get defensive over me calling you people nazi probably very much hits the target perfectly.
Oh, OK. You’re completely unhinged and have added nothing to the discourse.
I’m going to stoop to your level before not engaging further: I’m not a Nazi, you’re a Nazi! :p
you’re a nazi! and you’re a nazi!
If Ukraine starts bombing noncombatants at hospitals and schools, blocking food and water, and executing journalists I bet people would call that genocide.
What’s your beef with seahorse?
Sums it up quite well https://lemmy.world/post/18414833
“I don’t care”
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lol
I love that guy
I’ve been there, but I mostly just do it anyway. Fuck it, I said what I said. Half the time you don’t even get anything all that cutting, it’s just png salad. Every now and then, you’ll get a coherent response that isn’t a death threat, and those end up being good reads more often than not.
Eh, more often than not their longer posts are just “actually Stalin/Putin/Mao/Kim dynasty/Trump good because <5 page essay>”
Edit: also the classic “comparing Stalin to Hitler is a form of Holocaust denial” and in the same breath calling everyone not in their vatnik bubble a nazi or fascist lmao
And of course, if you don’t address every single point in that 5 page essay, along with doing all of their required reading, then you’re clearly acting in bad faith and a shitlib and are now going to be dogpiled by 27 other Hexbear users.
“If you do not take tankie.blogspot as a serious source then you are WRONG AND I WIN. I WIN! I WIN! I WIN!”
Bro I had this commie from lemmy.ml post a meme advertising for how great communism was. And I told him how the state was authoritarian and basically didn’t care much about human rights and the millions of people starving to death. I got wall of text and he got upset when I used wikipedia as a source. I’m sure if I used some news outlet he’d just say that’s western propaganda so I ended up blocking the guy and later the instance.
You made the right choice. It doesn’t matter how you respond, they’ll shift the goalposts and attack you every time.
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Yeah I don’t think much of it either… They just take offense to something doesn’t even apply to them lol
I’ve never been able to figure out the basic ideas behind their opinions. It’s something like US conservatives, where it’s something stupider than you can even guess at, but less predictable.
Understand that some or most of the key posters there are literally pawns of Russian or Chinese intelligence. Troll farms, wumao, what have you. Whether they are literally government employees or contracted through a third party, their purpose is to astroturf positive optics of their employer and negative optics of the US/the West as a whole. A more sinister interpretation, they are trying to destabilize the West by doing things like trashing Biden, now Harris, hoping to secure a chaotic and inwardly destructive Trump presidency.
Anything they say is to service these goals, anything they believe is mutable to these goals, and nothing they argue is in good faith.
But doesnt china block hexbear?
For others but their info opsec is uninhibited. The crux of authoritarians is “rules for the but not for me”.
Sure, they don’t want themselves to be destabilized by this nonsense.
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I don’t buy that at all. Lemmy is far too small for foreign agents to be posting propaganda. Why would they try to convince people who don’t need convincing?
Tankies already suckle foreign propaganda, ain’t no need to directly influence them.
It does not take much effort to throw some 3rd party troll farm a few dimes a post.
but why tho. no one on lemmy needs convincing
I’ve seen some downright insane takes on how what the Chinese are doing to the Uighurs is not as bad as it seems.
It sure is odd how hexbear loves the absolute fuck out of Russia and China.
it’s very simple.
us bad.
yeah by the lemmy devs
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Yu’re pretty much outlining the problem. Yes, the people on hexbear and ‘omg I’m so leftist’ on the rest of lemmy strongly support Russia and China, who are not “America’s designated enemy countries” simply because Americans unilaterally claimed it or something, but are geopolitical and military rivals who straight up say they oppose the US. There’s nothing politically special about either country that makes them worthy of leftist support other than hatred of America, yes. It’s a pretty pathetic concept to base your political views on since it’s not even remotely consistent. These bold intellectual luminaries should move to Russia if they think it’s so great (that is, assuming they don’t already live there). Most likely they live cushy lives in Western Europe while whining about how great the CCCP is.
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China is not communist at all for the past 20 years. They do slightly socialist capitalism with a one party system. That’s what makes HB’s love of the CCCP so clueless. Admire China if you want, sure, but they’re not communists. Same people act as if modern Russia is communist because the USSR theoretically was.
The Chinese and Russians would be perfect rly happy to do the same thing the US has been doing. China is working on it, in fact. Russians seem too mired in their own difficulties but anyone who thinks they don’t want an empire apparently doesn’t know much about the USSR.
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Russia, Iran and China all operate global empires, it’s not just the US. China is also not communist.
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If they were actually communist they wouldn’t produce billionaires by the hundreds.
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Didn’t you already post this dumb shit in a different place? This stupid essay wastes a ton of time citing philosophers instead of data and then ends with “it is okay to have billionaires because of reasons, still socialism.” It isn’t socialism.
I got banned from hexbear and lemmygrad like a year ago without ever even posting in either community, just for arguing with some of their users under a post on lemmy.ml
Very happy to be on an instance that blocks them entirely. The couple of weeks we were federated was a couple of weeks too long honestly.
Actually they blocked us first lmao.
It was great. They made a whole event about how they will dunk all of Lemmy and fill every thread with their spam… Just to realise they’re not in a safespace anymore and they defederated themselves in less than 24 hours.
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Infighting is very common
I forgot to block the instructions, left an unpopular opinion on a post. I wish I blocked it like I thought I didn’t.
Everyone just goes straight to being an asshole there, no middle ground.
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There’s a certain special irony in folks on the internet telling one another “Shut up! You’re not allowed to criticize free speech!” in a thread defending free speech. It only gets worse when you have people throwing shit fits over being federated, because it means you might get banned from another sub.
This all seems to boil down to “I don’t like other communities that hurt my feelings”. A thousand little Elon Musks, all screaming and crying because they can’t shut everyone else up and turn the local instance into a room full of yes-men.
.ml is the same way. People were getting deleted left and right for posting about Maduro fixing the election in Venezuela. Not realizing it’s freaking .ml. Even when told, “the mods are just enforcing the instance rules” they didn’t get it.
There’s a few mods that bans people just for being liberal there. What fucking clowns man. Then their little minions come to .world and whine about how they’re treated unfairly when they troll.
100%
I’ve got them and all the other after school instances blocked.
so .ml and .world?
No, .ml, Hexdouche, and Lemmynad. A few others, but they’re irrelevant enough to not warrant being mentioned by name.
Wait what’s wrong with world? .ml and .hexbear are insufferable but in my experience world has been fine?
World hasthemost users so people don’t like it. That’s all I’ve really got out of anyone.
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World is basically Reddit at this point, it’s where most of the big Reddit subs set up a Lemmy community, and is more or less the default option for someone setting up a Lemmy account for the first time.
Oh so just hipster bullshit then, gotcha.
Standard Reddit response.
You’re attitude, and responses, would be right at home on reddit.
*your
Awww you are so adorable… I think I’m getting a hard on
hey dude be nice
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Your trolling is really bad and obvious.
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Pretty sure I’m shadowbanned because I’m over there railing on those CCP husks all the time and they almost never respond.
Most likely
So before I knew shit about the fediverse I was trying to find and instance and I thought “oh neat I’m a leftist,” and created an account on hexbear. I was not prepared at all for that. I didn’t know what a tankie was and I was just legit confused for a minute.
Can relate, the people from that instance are bonafide shitrilers, born a century too late to join Hitler’s youth so they join hexbear instead.
You just comment something like “humans good” and the pro-russia tankies start arguing with the anti-russia tankies under your comment…
It’s hilarious honestly
I’m new here, I don’t even know what the fediverse is. What does this mean?
As Goat has said, this platform (Lemmy) is comprised of instances, some, like Lemmy.world, are general instances, and some have a specific theme or type of content they cater to. There’s one for furry porn, one for regular porn, for example, and one for utterly insufferable Internet communists who make a point of behaving badly in other communities.
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Sorry, but no. I’ve seen how they engage with other instances, their strategy is to dogpile on anyone who dares disagree with them, flood the thread with insults and shitty images, and generally behave like poo flinging monkeys. They don’t debate, they don’t actually make a cohesive argument for their beliefs, their entire approach is to use overwhelming force to drown out opposing voices.
They’re a thoroughly awful group of people.
Don’t forget if you try to defend yourself you get told to go touch grass.
I had a stroke reading this
Seek medical attention.
They went back and fixed it
Except there’s evidence supplied in this community of Hexbear users organising what threads to target specifically.
You’ve been defending tankies a lot. Why?
The fediverse is an interconnected community composed of instances. Every website is its own instance that can communicate with other instances
So right now I’m on sh.itjust.works, and you’re on lemmy.world.
The Fediverse is much more than just that. You just described the Lemmy (and kbin?) part of it. The Xitter alternative Mastodon for example is another part of the Fediverse among many others.
Welcome my guy
YOU WILL SPEAK WHEN SPOKEN TO MOTHERFUCKER
So you’re good now
God damnit 😔
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the thing about hexbear isn’t just that they’re far left, but that they are violently auth-left, and live in a huge echo-chamber, as most instances defederated from them. plenty of far left people are actually very grounded and human compared to them, see slrpnk.net and the an-soc instances. while they have strong opinions, they won’t immediately wish death upon you if your views clash
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Yeah, super saiyan marx, I wouldn’t call tankies progressive
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yeah, I definitely agree there, not to mention that “authoritarian left” is self contradicting to begin with. It’s a pretty direct two-word description though, I find, and better than just calling them “tankies” which is even more vague
are there any instances on here that aren’t left?
That probably depends on your Overton window.
Let me rephrase, is there anywhere that isn’t a circlejerk in either direction? I came here hoping it would be like Reddit pre 2016 where most of the main subs would at least have discussion and debate in the comments and not just a bunch of people blindly agreeing with each other.
Tbh, no. The conservative instances immediately devolved into racism and jingoism. The rest of the instances are at least pretty far left of the population as a whole (e.g. world), terminally online leftists, or tankies.
If you want someplace where politics don’t get mentioned in every thread, Mastodon with your own follows picked is the best choice.
They were a few initially but they got chased off the fediverse. I’ve found SJW is very impartial.
Communists are somewhat like collapsniks. I don’t want to bully or torment them, life kicked their butt already. But tankies, damn they deserve some bullying from time to time for all the stupid shit they say.
I’m fine and usually agree with people who are economically left. I find I usually disagree with people who love state capitalism so much they will excuse whatever human rights abuses occur under it.
Looking at the online places some people lost their faith in liberal democracy. At least in the USA looking at the voting and political system there it really isn’t the most… healthy. So I very much understand the desperation.
In other places it is going strong and no one sane would want to drop it. It merely needs some tweaks and fixes that are a subject of constant battles in the parliament.
This is the problem of us centric internet. Whatever I say it is always taken in the context of America. I got to know so much about that single country out of 195 whether I wanted it or not
