Update: I got banned from hexbear and grad lmao

  • PugJesus@lemmy.worldM
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    1 month ago

    I think we have a relict from the mid-2000s in our midst, back when half the internet was in open war with furries.

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      1 month ago

      Guy uses “degenerates” straight and is complaining about commies, progressives and furries. 90% they’re a cryptofash.

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        Hating on beehaw makes perfect sense, then. Fascists and an empathy-negating neurosis, generally due to early childhood trauma in that area, name a more iconic duo. All those other things (commies, progressives, furries) actually have their fascist versions but hippies? Forget it. Incompatible in principle.

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          There’s a lot of weird hippie cults, including Charles Manson’s. If your hippieism leans towards the aesthetic then it’s perfectly compatible with fascism. Not to mention the weird Californian ideology that isn’t straight fascism but sure is authoritarian in its anti-authoritarianism.

          Fascism is by definition syncretic. It eats whatever it finds and makes more of itself, with rigid power structures and might makes right logic. Every large enough movement can have a fascist version of itself.

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          actually have their fascist versions but hippies? Forget it. Incompatible in principle.

          Now it is 1984

          Knock-knock at your front door

          It’s the suede denim secret police

          They have come for your uncool niece!

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        1 month ago

        I’m too lazy to look through their comment history at the moment, but you’re probably right.

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        1 month ago

        There’s no commies on Hexbear. MLs are socialists, not communists.

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            Marx defined communism as stateless. MLs want a state. They say they want to get rid of the state in the long term, but they have no ideas on how to achieve this and they support socialist states such as China. They actively degrade the ideas of anarchists who want to have a communist revolution. They say communist revolutions don’t work, you need to have a socialist revolution instead. As anti-communists, they cannot be communists.

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              As much as I I agree with you, this kind of definition isn’t helping anyone to discuss on the common grounds. I can argue that “communist” states were state capitalist, but I’d still call the people actually thinking that communism is good, communists

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                They only say communism is good when they’re trying to regain the credibility they lose by constantly attacking communism and simping for authoritarian socialist regimes which have absolutely zero plans to achieve communism. I don’t think their actions are the actions of someone who really thinks communism is good.

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      I know, it must be hard for kids to understand a time before they were born, but don’t worry, someday you’ll be explaining the facts of life to youngsters yourself.