Yeah, I agree, there should be no such thing as any sort of ethnostate. Or even a religious state for that matter.

People on Lemmy, and tankies in general, are extremely absorbed in campist rhetoric. It’s very frustrating having to explain that not everything is so binary.

What are your thoughts?

yeah

prior to the edit it wasn’t mentioning AFD

Sounds like antiyanks

Dbzer0, YPTB in particular, often brigades this community. After you pinged MoG, I’ve noticed a few alt accounts popped up to manipulate the votes on this post, which is what typically happens when someone crossposts this community to YPTB.

It’s a problem with YPTB that’s been noted by a few different instance admins

I gotta be super conservative with anything that may resemble a dogwhistle in this community. There was a fiasco a while ago where a user used a certain word that could be taken as fascist. I ended up having to do damage control and ban said user.

So please edit, just remove the triple quotations and any suggestions that the German government is being coerced with their hatespeech law.

thanks for the edit. while you’re at it, can you also edit out the triple quotation marks in your other comment?

mate it’s grossly offensive to call modern-day germans nazis.

You can be against more than one thing at once. Being in support of Palestine doesn’t mean all israeli civilians should die.

I like to think it’s pretty simple to be against civilian deaths.

Sounds very complicated. It’s not some chess move, just asking if it makes me a zionist.

Then the second option or even the bare minimum option I suggested still applies. If you really cared or didn’t support that crap you’d be less willing to justify it, with horribly bad faith arguments no less. If you think Germany’s law means you need to act like a neoliberal to be safe and condemn what “Germany” sees as “”“bigotry”“”[1] then you have made the choice to side with Zionists out of fear of persecution.

Hey, probably not a good idea to be using triple quotes around certain words. It dips into the triple parentheses. Please edit.

Nah, I doubt there’s any agents here. Maybe some chatbots here, I’ve encountered some, but not state trolls.

They just have a lot of free-time on their hands and they’re too deep in their extremist bubble to explore the real world a bit.

That figures. YPTB, for whatever reason, always defends lemmy.ml and tankies and will ban anyone who doesn’t think Israel should be destroyed.

Dbz0 is a very antisemitic instance. They don’t allow any comments or accounts whatsoever defending Israel, even if it’s the innocent civilian populace.

Holding all Israelis accountable for Zionism is not Anti-Zionism: it’s collective guilt, which is antisemitic and racist.

A good rule of thumb to determine racism is if you assign blame based on something someone cannot choose, such as their ethnicity, religion or ancestry, then it’s racist. An Israeli civilian, born in Israel, does not volunteer to be zionist and shouldn’t be held accountable for it.

I’ve found this is a good way to determine if someone is antisemitic or not: Many Israelis and Jews support Zionism, that is, the existence of Israel as a Jewish State. Should being Israeli or Jewish automatically make someone responsible or subject to different treatment because of Zionism or Israel’s actions?

oh it’s diva! Diva’s funny

‘I’m not a tankie, I’m an anarchist!’

‘Here’s an image where you call yourself a tankie.’

‘MODS. BAN THEM PLS’

You got banned from YPTB?

It’s very peculiar how the group that prides itself on identifying dogwhistles and cryptofascism is seemingly ignorant of antisemitic dogwhistles, despite just ten years ago being overtly aware of these antisemitic dogwhistles.

It’s campism to the extreme

Purely for curiosity’s sake, I don’t think Israel’s populace should be destroyed. Does that make me zionist?

Move the German instance out of Germany?

Wouldn’t it make more sense to limit antisemitism while still allowing antizionism?

Why ban?