Hating on beehaw makes perfect sense, then. Fascists and an empathy-negating neurosis, generally due to early childhood trauma in that area, name a more iconic duo. All those other things (commies, progressives, furries) actually have their fascist versions but hippies? Forget it. Incompatible in principle.
There’s a lot of weird hippie cults, including Charles Manson’s. If your hippieism leans towards the aesthetic then it’s perfectly compatible with fascism. Not to mention the weird Californian ideology that isn’t straight fascism but sure is authoritarian in its anti-authoritarianism.
Fascism is by definition syncretic. It eats whatever it finds and makes more of itself, with rigid power structures and might makes right logic. Every large enough movement can have a fascist version of itself.
Marx defined communism as stateless. MLs want a state. They say they want to get rid of the state in the long term, but they have no ideas on how to achieve this and they support socialist states such as China. They actively degrade the ideas of anarchists who want to have a communist revolution. They say communist revolutions don’t work, you need to have a socialist revolution instead. As anti-communists, they cannot be communists.
As much as I I agree with you, this kind of definition isn’t helping anyone to discuss on the common grounds. I can argue that “communist” states were state capitalist, but I’d still call the people actually thinking that communism is good, communists
They only say communism is good when they’re trying to regain the credibility they lose by constantly attacking communism and simping for authoritarian socialist regimes which have absolutely zero plans to achieve communism. I don’t think their actions are the actions of someone who really thinks communism is good.
I know, it must be hard for kids to understand a time before they were born, but don’t worry, someday you’ll be explaining the facts of life to youngsters yourself.
NGL I thought my instance had gone off the rails while I wasn’t looking for a second there. Getting lumped in with hexbear and .ml is pretty rough. Beehaw? Good company imho.
The worst part is his comments were upvoted a lot when I commented that… there’s probably a few chaps who have the impression that everyone on the furry instances is the reincarnation of Lenin now lol
Nah that’s not how the world works buddy. Only children think in binaries.
okay, just one question: do furries/does furry porn sexualize animals, yes or no? No mental gymnastics allowed, one word answer.
You asked two questions and tell me to give you one answer. Nice try senator.
Also a majority of things require answers more complex than a simple “yes” or “no”, because the world isn’t the simple land that it seems to be in your head. However, luckily for you, these questions do have relatively simple yes-or-no answers.
To your first question: No, furries don’t by default sexualize animals. It’s weird that you even come to the conclusion that they do.
To your second question: Also no. You can argue that furry art is usually depictions of animals, and that furry porn sexualizes those depictions, but even that’s pretty shaky because anthropromorphized beings that have a vague resemblance to animals are hard to argue as being similar enough to the real thing that it’s “sexualizing (a depiction of) [animal]”. I wouldn’t call you out on saying that furry drawings are depictions of animals, even though I think that’s flawed logic, but it’s not even remotely similar to “sexualizing animals” (e.g. zoophilia)
Unluckily for you, my friend, I took a screenshot when you posted that since I had a feeling you would edit your mistake out. You may be playing chess in 4 dimensions, but I’m playing chess in 7 dimensions. Get pranked lol
Goodness, that’s an awful lot of words, champ! In fact, I think that’s more than one – and seems to have lots of mental gymnastics to boot, from what I skimmed – silly, don’t you know how to read directions? Here, let me help you out.
Now, you go and have a little reading time, I’m gonna give you a break from my inbox. Come back when you’ve learned to count to one, and try again.
Clearly your reading comprehension is kaputt because I gave simple “no” answers for your “question”. It’s even bolded for your viewing pleasure. Shan’t you appreciate my immaculate formatting?
Didn’t beehaw defederate from lemmy.world a year ago because they felt it had a bad influence on itself? Mb not theexact reason’ but something like that scratches my mind
I mean seeing how negative and pissy some sects of the users are on lemmy.world, I can’t really blame them. The technology and gaming community on there are so unhelpful and the comments are just variations of “enshittification” or “modern gaming/tech sucks” which…yeah we know, we’re on Lemmy.
At least Beehaw users, in my experience, actually read the articles and discuss the topics at hand. Even if there is a lower userbase to engage with, I end up learning something new or productive.
Beehaw wanted to be its own thing and didn’t trust outside users to follow their specific rules. So they defederated to be their own network, which was a really bad idea. Though it contributed a lot to SJW’s growth, so that’s something
now I might not remember why I blocked beehaw but I know damn well the animal fetishists are not “good people”, thank you
and just from your instance name… yeah that’s another one for the list
Animal fetishists?! You mean… furries?
I think we have a relict from the mid-2000s in our midst, back when half the internet was in open war with furries.
Guy uses “degenerates” straight and is complaining about commies, progressives and furries. 90% they’re a cryptofash.
Hating on beehaw makes perfect sense, then. Fascists and an empathy-negating neurosis, generally due to early childhood trauma in that area, name a more iconic duo. All those other things (commies, progressives, furries) actually have their fascist versions but hippies? Forget it. Incompatible in principle.
There’s a lot of weird hippie cults, including Charles Manson’s. If your hippieism leans towards the aesthetic then it’s perfectly compatible with fascism. Not to mention the weird Californian ideology that isn’t straight fascism but sure is authoritarian in its anti-authoritarianism.
Fascism is by definition syncretic. It eats whatever it finds and makes more of itself, with rigid power structures and might makes right logic. Every large enough movement can have a fascist version of itself.
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I’m too lazy to look through their comment history at the moment, but you’re probably right.
You dont have to look far. Literally just this thread
Thank you for pointing this out, I was quite surprised it got this many upvotes.
There’s no commies on Hexbear. MLs are socialists, not communists.
You can’t be serious…
Marx defined communism as stateless. MLs want a state. They say they want to get rid of the state in the long term, but they have no ideas on how to achieve this and they support socialist states such as China. They actively degrade the ideas of anarchists who want to have a communist revolution. They say communist revolutions don’t work, you need to have a socialist revolution instead. As anti-communists, they cannot be communists.
As much as I I agree with you, this kind of definition isn’t helping anyone to discuss on the common grounds. I can argue that “communist” states were state capitalist, but I’d still call the people actually thinking that communism is good, communists
They only say communism is good when they’re trying to regain the credibility they lose by constantly attacking communism and simping for authoritarian socialist regimes which have absolutely zero plans to achieve communism. I don’t think their actions are the actions of someone who really thinks communism is good.
I know, it must be hard for kids to understand a time before they were born, but don’t worry, someday you’ll be explaining the facts of life to youngsters yourself.
Man, I was in the trenches of online forums at the time. I was PART of those times. I just eventually grew up past being an edgy preteen.
The lolocaust was specifically about furries that liked to spam furry porn and be obnoxious. They deserved what they got. https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Something_Awful
so just to recap, you gained a newfound appreciation for animal fetishists, and you… think that’s a sign of maturity and growth?
okay then. I’ll just leave you to it then, champ, you have fun with that <3
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NGL I thought my instance had gone off the rails while I wasn’t looking for a second there. Getting lumped in with hexbear and .ml is pretty rough. Beehaw? Good company imho.
The worst part is his comments were upvoted a lot when I commented that… there’s probably a few chaps who have the impression that everyone on the furry instances is the reincarnation of Lenin now lol
Yeah… especially considering our general stances on things, that inversion really sucks. Hopefully this isn’t a common opinion.
Reading that actually made me double-take and check the modlogs. It was so…. Confident.
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You read text, you don’t listen to it
You must have come from 10 years ago because nobody has opinions as cringe and childish as “furries bad zoophiles” anymore
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Nah that’s not how the world works buddy. Only children think in binaries.
You asked two questions and tell me to give you one answer. Nice try senator.
Also a majority of things require answers more complex than a simple “yes” or “no”, because the world isn’t the simple land that it seems to be in your head. However, luckily for you, these questions do have relatively simple yes-or-no answers.
To your first question: No, furries don’t by default sexualize animals. It’s weird that you even come to the conclusion that they do.
To your second question: Also no. You can argue that furry art is usually depictions of animals, and that furry porn sexualizes those depictions, but even that’s pretty shaky because anthropromorphized beings that have a vague resemblance to animals are hard to argue as being similar enough to the real thing that it’s “sexualizing (a depiction of) [animal]”. I wouldn’t call you out on saying that furry drawings are depictions of animals, even though I think that’s flawed logic, but it’s not even remotely similar to “sexualizing animals” (e.g. zoophilia)
also this
Unluckily for you, my friend, I took a screenshot when you posted that since I had a feeling you would edit your mistake out. You may be playing chess in 4 dimensions, but I’m playing chess in 7 dimensions. Get pranked lol
As someone with some insight: furries tend to have body dysphoria. They really don’t feel great about their body and want escapism.
Personally I had a very “you are dirty and disgusting” type upbringing from my christian parents that thought shame would be a good motivator.
its okay for someone to edit their comment to correct mistakes.
Goodness, that’s an awful lot of words, champ! In fact, I think that’s more than one – and seems to have lots of mental gymnastics to boot, from what I skimmed – silly, don’t you know how to read directions? Here, let me help you out.
Now, you go and have a little reading time, I’m gonna give you a break from my inbox. Come back when you’ve learned to count to one, and try again.
Clearly your reading comprehension is kaputt because I gave simple “no” answers for your “question”. It’s even bolded for your viewing pleasure. Shan’t you appreciate my immaculate formatting?
pretty sure animals aren’t asexual
I don’t know, yiffit folks seem very nice. Not always safe for work, though.
I think my instance already bans beehaw, though. I forget why, unfortunately.
Didn’t beehaw defederate from lemmy.world a year ago because they felt it had a bad influence on itself? Mb not theexact reason’ but something like that scratches my mind
I mean seeing how negative and pissy some sects of the users are on lemmy.world, I can’t really blame them. The technology and gaming community on there are so unhelpful and the comments are just variations of “enshittification” or “modern gaming/tech sucks” which…yeah we know, we’re on Lemmy.
At least Beehaw users, in my experience, actually read the articles and discuss the topics at hand. Even if there is a lower userbase to engage with, I end up learning something new or productive.
Beehaw wanted to be its own thing and didn’t trust outside users to follow their specific rules. So they defederated to be their own network, which was a really bad idea. Though it contributed a lot to SJW’s growth, so that’s something
They defederated from most of the instances and are almost irrelevant now.