IIRC, that happened a few months ago, not now. A lot of schools are out for the summer already anyway. School staff did a great job of making the feds fuck off.
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Now imagine how the parents of Uvalde felt. Police showed up, and not only did nothing, but actively prevented OTHER parents, who were showing up to storm the grounds to shoot the shooter themselves. But the police protected the shooter, causing the deaths of more kids. If memory serves me right, 12 kids had died before parents showed up. And something like 37 died by days end.
Meaning, even if the police did nothing, and allowed the parents to go through, parents would have shot the shooter and saved 25 more kids.
Imagine knowing your kid is dead because police were afraid.
That conservative town that reelected the police chief?
Yes, the chief that ran uncontested for 15 years until the most recent vote wherein there were three write-in challengers, won with 45% of the votes.
Gotta love FPTP voting
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Wait until people start looking into how and why mobs were originally formed in the 1920’s. Police are selfish, opportunistic thugs in any age. Sometimes communities need to create their own police force to save themselves from the cops.
expect way worse in future. both parties are ok with burning children alive or starving them to death if it means more campaign money.
I doubt it. American parents have their kids shot to pieces at schools and do nothing about it, assuming you’re an american I have my doubts you’d make any effort towards justice.
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Everyone talks like they’re Liam Neeson from ‘Taken’ but the reality is no schools or ICE facilities were burned down by any parent or member of the community who’s children were abducted by unidentified feds. The government aren’t afraid because people like you blow hot air all day but they call your bluff over and over and win every time, I see a lot of talk but only two examples of somebody ante-ing up and doing something about it, and one of them missed by centimeters.
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I’m sorry, I don’t mean you personally. In all honesty I agree with your initial statement in that I too would and do want proper justice for crimes against children, but then I’m immediately smacked in the face by the reality that we aren’t even close to seeing any of that kind of justice and all our tough talk doesn’t scare them one bit. We are grinding the same axe here, but i’m very perturbed by all this which has made me eager to fight and i’m sorry if I directed fighting words to you personally. We’re both strangers to eachother here after all, I have no way of knowing who you are, if 99.999…% of the time that sort of justice you mentioned never happens then how am I to NOT think you would be the same? I’m sure you’d WANT to burn down the school, much like I want to burn the Sacklers for killing 12 of my friends in the opioid epidemic, much like their parents who were deceived into dodgy perscriptions by doctors probably want to burn the whole thing down, nobody ever does.
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Recent report I read and heard about was them staking out elementary school “graduations.” Caused parents to have to flee, which was rather depressing. The kids are likely birthright citizens, but even then, parents are afraid of deportation without representation (at least, according to interviews by KCRW/NPR).
FYI btw, it’s like the last week of school here in LA for most districts, so any of these stories are still very plausible.
The kids are likely birthright citizens
You say that like it matters to the fucking Mustard Mussolini.
God damn the school year goes long in LA
California summer (the season/weather) starts and ends later than most places, so the later school starts the less kids and teachers have to bake in underfunded non-air conditioned classrooms.
I’m up in Merced, the kids got out last week, and that’s actually kinda late for the central valley. It’s probably different for you guys because SoCal is physically closer to hell, whereas the central valley is spiritually closer to it.
Well, you’re closer to Modesto so your claim that you’re further from hell is debatable :P
Well, you’ve got me there. Modesto fucking sucks, dawg.
So far as I can tell it was April 10th.
Can’t help wondering how many stone cold rapists and paedophiles are out there pretending to be ICE and kidnapping people.
Perfect opportunity for them. Even worse are organized hate groups like KKK and friends
So, the ICE and Police?
Some of those that work forces…
A lot more than any republican would every be willing to admit.
Here are some example of different impersonations:
What is most disturbing is that most of those are chaotic, disorganized impersonators who therefore got caught.
There are probably calm, professional-looking adults doing this and flying under the radar.
Exactly. Many criminals who do terrible crimes get caught because they panic and make dumb mistakes in fits of anxiety (criminals are humans, too, and like many humans in very high pressure situations, especially ones where your entire life is at stake if you fuck up, they crack).
But… a calm psycho or someone who really prepared well for it? That is scary as all hell.
Ted Bundy pretended to be a detective to try to lure at least one girl, but thankfully she escaped. How many others weren’t that lucky?
We might see a brief resurgence in serial killers if they start to realize this is a valid tactic, and this shit will get ICE agents shot because many people carry guns specifically for over the top scenarios like these.
I sure as hell would start shooting. In Canada, if someone was actually trying to kidnap someone like that and the victim fired back, their shooting would be justified. They would still go to jail for years for illegally carrying a gun but the actual shooting would be justified. There is precedent for this in Canadian law.
I think the serial killers just got smart and took official positions where they can do horrible shit with the government’s blessing
I rather suspect ICE agents are also carrying guns for that scenario.
Everyone in the US has a gun…
Could pretending to be ICE be a useful guerilla tactic?
Seems to be working for ICE
It’s safest to assume it’s all of them without exception.
In Annecy, Frnace, there’s a plaque on one of the elementary schools where Jewish kids were forcibly removed from class by the ss and taken away. Same shit’s starting to happen in America now.
Kill the fascists, disrupt their plans. Fuck them.
There’s gonna be videos of ice shooting children by the time this is all over
They’ll run into a classroom where kids are drawing, and claim they feared for their lives, because the pens could be used to harm them.
Then they’ll get 2-6 weeks paid leave, and be promoted when they get back.
Nah, they’ll just get a stacked pension and an early retirement, putting them back into the field is bad optics.
More likely to be “let go” only to be rehired one county over immediately. That’s what they do with the cops with records that they can’t simply handwave away.
Just wait till the videos of children shooting ICE come out!
Don’t worry, they’ll switchboard gas chambers soonnenough.
I should buy a gun.
You should train how to use a gun
Absolutely. I’ve been shooting periodically since I was a teenager but I could use a refresher.
Gold standard:
Be able to draw from concealment and hit a 6” steel circle at 10 yards in under 1.5 seconds. Every time, 10 draws in a row.
Ensure you can perform an elpresidente stage run in 6.5 seconds with all hits in the alpha scoring zone.
You can perform a fast drill in under 7 seconds, 3 times in a row back to back.
Your splits at 7 yards are under 2 tenths.
Your draw, shoot, reload, shoot on a 7 yard 6” steel plate is under 2.5 seconds. 10 times in a row.
Amateurs train until they get it right. Professionals train until they can’t get it wrong.
You always fall in the moment to the level of your training, so absolutely train if you decide to arm yourself. Otherwise you have given someone in power the ability to take lethal force from you and use it against you, or worse, you have misapplied it and harmed someone you did not intend to.
Ty. Saving this advice for sooner rather than later.
Eyy, they’re finally getting it
Better late than never
2 guns. AR-15 and Glock. Primary and sidearm. Or if you have the money, might as well get a Beretta 92FS as a sidearm.
then what? shoot and go to jail?
Better than not shooting and getting black bagged to El Salvador.
America is completely and utterly fucked. There’s obviously no way Trump will run for president for a third term, but under the new fascist state, there isn’t a constitution to contest for said third term. He’ll be leader until death.
But hey, thank your stupid god that you believe in so firecely that you’ve got that second amendment in your constitution you so adamantly demanded you need for times just like this to have your guns to use and overthrow your tyrannical government. Oh wait. Right; you’re all fucking bark and no bite.
No, it was always a bad-faith argument so they could hold onto tools for killing brown people.
I dunno… I like having my tools for stopping fascist threats against my person and my fellow trans community
Let’s not throw the baby out with the bathwater
Criminals will manufacture weapons regardless, just look at the freedom fighters in Myanmar using FGC Mk.II 3d printed guns.
You can make weapons out of hardware store parts
You can’t make a mill illegal
You won’t take CNC machines
Criminals behavior is the crime, not the knowledge or the means
Clearly I wasn’t referring to you.
until death.
Good idea.
that second amendment
Most 2A nuts most likely voted for Mango Mussolini.
This would make me go nuclear.
Kidnapping our kids?
You want a primal reaction? This will fast track it.
They do want that reaction. They’re provoking normal people into violence to allow them to show an emergency and thus bring in the entire army
It’s inevitable that it will happen. Whether someone wants it or not is irrelevant. If children are being kidnapped that’s an appropriate response.
You stop them. With smoke if necessary.
Guess you should let then just take kids then /s
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The thing is that lashing out to the lackeys doesn’t change much. The empire doesn’t care if they lose a bunch of stormtoopers, that is what they get hired for, it only cares if it loses a few emperors.
They’re doing that anyway. Might as well make them suffer the violence that they are hoping for.
They don’t need to do that, the army is already deployed. They can just make something up like they always do.
White Americans: Nah, it is only happening to brown kids.
Given the fact that that have been doing this to young, white, blond haired Canadian girls, it is only a matter time before the white kids of liberals and left leaning people get snatched. And probably some from conservatives who still have a microgram of sense and a drop of compassion left.
This is more about racial/ethnic scapegoating (one of the central tenets of fascism) than you’d think.
The ideas here is not that different from Hitler’s they just haven’t come right out and said it.
That isn’t to say white people shouldn’t be worried. Fascism is designed to rapidly centralize power by telling the majority they’re part of the ‘in’ crowd while in reality they will also be put through the meat grinder so that in the end it is only the state that survives.
Basically we work our way back to a monarchy and future geberations will have to wait for the next magna carta.
it would be good if this was your reactive to anyone getting kidnapped.
I wonder how a person wakes up one day and says to him/herself: i want to kidnap children when i grow up
To be fair, i did that, but i was aiming for a witchy mysterious throw-them-in-the-oven sorta way, and dropped that aspiration just about the second i learned the only people who kidnap children nowadays are pedophiles.
It’s just not the right cultural moment for reclaiming that.
Please feel free to prove there’s a single ice agent that’s not a pedophile. Edit: then maybe i can start on my childhood dream of being a terrible witch who throws kids in my oven and/or cauldron.
i wouldn’t go so far as to say theyre ALL pedophiles but theres probably a strong correlation between ice agents and people who disagree with the concept of consent
Do you have any proof though?
This post
I think it’s more about following your passion and just one day finding yourself behind the steering wheel.
“The sad truth is that most evil is done by people who never make up their minds to be good or evil.” ~ Hannah Arendt
I still don’t know what to make of her views on nazis given the fact she had a lifelong romantic relationship with the one who ejected her and other Jews from her university.
Did Heidegger not also possess this “banality of evil”? Or was he somehow an acception?
The romantic choices of many of us between the ages of 18-21 (her age during their actual affair) probably don’t bear scrutiny.
An ex who later became a nazi (and then recanted) is probably an excellent example of how quotidian these kinds of evils can be.
She was only human and some of her views are problematic, but I don’t think it’s a case of contagion.
The romantic choices of many of us between the ages of 18-21 (her age during their actual affair) probably don’t bear scrutiny.
I’m not scrutinizing her for any choices between 18 and 21.
This was a lifelong relationship, Hannah herself reached out and continued writing letters in his defense from the 1950s to her death.
An ex who later became a nazi (and then recanted) is probably an excellent example of how quotidian these kinds of evils can be.
Ex? No.
Recanted? They denied he had any nazi sympathy and claimed it was all a mistake
Later, in a 1969 birthday tribute essay “Martin Heidegger at Eighty,” Arendt penned what has generally been taken as an exoneration of Heidegger. In it, she “compared Heidegger to Thales,” writes Gordon, “the ancient philosopher who grew so absorbed in contemplating the heavens that he stumbled into the well at his feet.”
This was the accepted view of Heidegger until 2014 when the black notebooks came out
But major Heidegger scholars have responded in a variety of ways—including resigning a chairship of the Martin Heidegger Society—that suggest the worst. According to Daily Nous, a website about the philosophy profession, when Günter Figal resigned his position in January as chair of the Martin Heidegger Society, he said:
As chairman of a society, which is named after a person, one is in certain way a representative of that person. After reading the Schwarze Hefte [Black Notebooks], especially the antisemitic passages, I do not wish to be such a representative any longer. These statements have not only shocked me, but have turned me around to such an extent that it has become difficult to be a co-representative of this.
Hannah defends him as just so focused on high philosophy he never noticed the antisemitism
Recalls Adam Kirsch in the Times:
The seal was set on his absolution by Hannah Arendt, in a birthday address broadcast on West German radio. Heidegger’s Nazism, she explained, was an “escapade,” a mistake, which happened only because the thinker naïvely “succumbed to the temptation … to ‘intervene’ in the world of human affairs.” The moral to be drawn from the Heidegger case was that “the thinking ‘I’ is entirely different from the self of consciousness,” so that Heidegger’s thought cannot be contaminated by the actions of the mere man.
but I don’t think it’s a case of contagion.
Modern scholars seem to say otherwise
In a long, carefully documented essay, Wasserstein (who’s now at the University of Chicago), cites Arendt’s scandalous use of quotes from anti-Semitic and Nazi “authorities” on Jews in her Totalitarianism book.
Wasserstein concludes that her use of these sources was “more than a methodological error: it was symptomatic of a perverse world-view contaminated by over-exposure to the discourse of collective contempt and stigmatization that formed the object of her study”—that object being anti-Semitism. In other words, he contends, Arendt internalized the values of the anti-Semitic literature she read in her study of anti-Semitism, at least to a certain extent
https://slate.com/human-interest/2009/10/troubling-new-revelations-about-arendt-and-heidegger.html
And are these your own views too? I thought you said you didn’t know what to make of her.
I have to admit I’m not particularly invested in this issue, but I do think it’s a gross mischaracterisation to say the letters post relationship somehow constitute an ongoing affair. They quite obviously don’t.
Heidegger was an antisemitic Nazi and the black notebooks prove there was a lot more to that than he pretended after he publicly recanted. As far as I’m aware historians have not found any evidence that Arendt was any more aware of the content of the notebooks than anyone else was.
I agree Arendt’s work is flawed as I noted above.
When I quoted her, my intention was simply to communicate that specific idea, with which I agree - not to evoke her as if she were some kind of infallible god.
I’m not in favour of abandoning the concepts of ideology and interpellation because Althusser murdered his wife, similarly I’m not going to abandon the concept of the banality of evil because Arendt was deluded about a creepy professor she had an affair with.
And are these your own views too? I thought you said you didn’t know what to make of her.
Oh I get that comes across weird, I’m looking all this stuff up as you’re challenging me on it and what I’m finding is starting to solidify my views a bit more.
I have to admit I’m not particularly invested in this issue, but I do think it’s a gross mischaracterisation to say the letters post relationship somehow constitute an ongoing affair. They quite obviously don’t.
That doesn’t seem as obvious to the New Yorker
In 1950, seventeen years after they had last communicated, Arendt and Heidegger met again, when she went to Germany to help track down stolen Jewish cultural treasures. At times, she had been publicly critical of Heidegger’s behavior during his rectorship and afterward, but the renewal of their ties banished all her suspicions. “This evening and this morning are the confirmation of an entire life,” she wrote to him after their meeting. For the next two years, their love enjoyed a brief afterlife, as Heidegger wrote poems about her and told her things like “I wish I could run the five-fingered comb through your frizzy hair.”
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2009/01/12/beware-of-pity-Hannah-Arendt
(The author betrays a very obvious bias about what we’re supposed to take away to be fair)
When I quoted her, my intention was simply to communicate that specific idea, with which I agree - not to evoke her as if she were some kind of infallible god.
Yeah I’m with you there.
As far as I’m aware historians have not found any evidence that Arendt was any more aware of the content of the notebooks than anyone else was.
That I’m not sure.
I don’t think I really know enough to have a right to that strong a view when the historical record seems to be changing so recently and most of her letters are lost whole she kept all of Heideggers, but what I’m finding is a bit troubling tbh.
For over half a century she was considered the best source of insight into Eichmann and Nazi psychology.
With new knowledge about her conflict of interest and defence of Heidegger I’m left wondering how much of an expert she should be considered.
It seems from the evidence, Heidegger was a willing and complicit Nazi who wrote about genuinely antisemetic views. In that light, Hannah’s defence of him is surprising.
I’m unsure of what go make of her psychological evaluation capabilities if she had such a glaring blindspot here.
I’m not in favour of abandoning the concepts of ideology and interpretation because Althusser murdered his wife, similarly I’m not going to abandon the concept of the banality of evil because Arendt was deluded about a creepy professor she had an affair with.
Right, neither am I.
That’s why I didn’t abandon it and instead said I am unsure what to make of it.
I’m not trying to come to a black or white conclusion, I think this is a complicated subject.
Ah, I think I understand you better now. It’s an interesting conversation.
To me, that quote from the New Yorker about combing her hair etc supports my view that this was likely some sort of personal issue involving an idealisation of her ex as a person.
considered the best source of insight into Eichmann and Nazi psychology.
I suppose I’ve never regarded her in that light.
She’s a philosopher: she articulates some key concepts that are valuable, but a) philosophers hypothesizing like that isn’t exactly social science and b) I tend to see the Holocaust in the broader historical contexts of genocide and imperialism. Through that lens, Nazi psychology loses its central importance as some sort of unique phenomenon because it isn’t really much different from most of the other genocidal regimes that predate it.
This probably sounds like sacrilege in some quarters (Elie Weissel) but to me the usefullness of Arendt lies in what is generalisable, even if that was in itself rooted in material and historical specificity.
ideology and interpretation
Sorry for the typo. I meant interpellation!
“Test run”? When the fuck do people get that this is real?
You know what can turn a normal parent into a “dOMestIC tERroRIst”?.. fucking with their kids
Remember everyone. Due processes is there to determine if the activity is criminal. You are not a criminal until you have been convicted.
Saying anyone does not deserve due process bc they are a criminal is factually wrong
It’s getting to that point.
Our only option is going to be killing them.
It’s that or be killed.
Imagine a 1st grader in an El Salvadorian prison. Then remember that Trump’s staff is full of eugenicists.
then you will be labelled terrorist and your house address will given to a drone by palantir, that will bomb it when you are at home with your entire family.
maga has a right to defend themselves
Everyday, some new horror to discover about the world. Goddamn.
In the interest of maintaining some standard of evidence-based information, here is a source with more journalistic integrity than a bluesky screen cap:
Well the post body does include an abc7 video report. But thanks for additional sources.
I trust the Bluesky screenshot more than mainstream media.
I dont think its ever wise to trust an article headline, let alone a wall of text and a screen cap of a news video from a random internet user.
DHS has been stating they would be doing wellness checks since April under the pretense that they are preventing human trafficking. I cannot tell from any article I have read of them trying to visit schools if that is what they are actually after or not.
She has 38.000 likes though that is a lot of street cred.
It’s a good thing you can’t bot, buy, or scam likes! Otherwise this bulletproof form of deciding who is trustworthy would be useless!
True.
Meanwhile at CNN: the protesters are throwing these… 40mm rubber bullet grenades at the cops…
Two things can be true.
Reminder that Sen. Mitt Romney wanted TikTok banned because it accurately reported on Gaza than the media, showing the active murders happening.
They want citizen’s platforms banned and discredited because it tells truth to power.
You mean you trust media that can’t be held responsible more than media that actually loses reputation when they do something wrong and can be sued?
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So they’ll be sued for failing to report Trump’s rise to power soon?
Rupert Murdock will be sued for aiding in Fox News? And the deaths he helped caused? The people who he had mobs form because of false accusations of pedophilia?
The WDMs in Iraq that the New York Times helped to sell to the American public?
Reporting that COVID is gone, we don’t need to worry about it anymore?
Israel’s war crimes being covered up by the media because it looks better?
They’ll be sued and lose reputation now, right?
You mean you trust media that can’t be held responsible more than media that actually loses reputation when they do something wrong and can be sued?
No I trust media which does lose reputation and can be held accountable for when they publish massieve conspiracy theories such as Alex Jones did.
Unlike legacy media such as New York Times which makes up fake rape accusations against whatever country America needs to smear next and gets away with it without repercussions.
Alex Jones is mainstream media, bud
Did you find those WMD’S in Iraq yet?
How is that Nariyah testimony going?
Mass rapes on october 7 right?
Is this what “saving the children” look like?
“Save the children… for me”
-Average MAGA
Nobody’s asking the real question: Why are first graders driving unmarked cars to begin with?
Give those kids sharpies and let them mark their cars! Booster seats might also be a good idea so they can see who they hit.
I mean might as well so they can keep accurate track of the body count on the side of the car.
