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    17 minutes ago

    Using compressed axes to display data was literally “How to identify misleading statistics 101” in middle school for us…

    It seems fine to you but for the majority of people it’s misleading most people look at the lines and the relative distance between them to make judgment calls. Not literally the entire point of graphs, to visually display information.

    This is a well-known effect and is taught in pretty much every major curriculum.



  • I’m not sure what argument you’re making here yes of course parents should be teaching their children these skills instead of letting them go on social media.

    How is that relevant to the argument that I’m making though?

    This is obviously not occurring today so how do you expect it to occur tomorrow when we make no changes today?

    You do realize that the children of tomorrow will be raised by the children of today right? And as we let the children of today become addicted to social media and don’t provide them with the tools skills and safety to protect themselves from social media how do you expect them to teach their children how?

    Sure I may be cognizant of this but again, as stated previously in these messages…, this is a systemic problem. You cannot solve a systemic problem by putting the burden of solution on each individual involved in the problem. Systemic problems require systematic solutions, this is largely an inarguable point.


  • Well yeah that’s a problem of course but that doesn’t negate the reasoning I stated in other areas of this thread.

    I’m not promoting trust in a central authority or government here that’s a separate problem that exists on an entirely different plane.

    Yes you who probably has some amount of critical thinking skills can do that. The majority of young generational individuals today, cannot. Which largely negates the “well they should get gud” argument. It’s a systematic problem, you can’t solve systematic problems that way…

    I’m not going to repeat myself though, my last paragraph in the previous message is a fairly succinct tldr. This is a principal that’s been applied and works across industries, and is critically important for building “safe systems”

    Safe systems being systems that are designed to be operated and interacted with safely. There is a practical infinite number of safe systems that you can find examples of to further drive my point home. We can design systems that provide safety from human behavior and failings, the largest obstacle is usually both the political aspect and the aspect of individuals who refuse to acknowledge that safe systems are important.




  • Side note.

    Social media is now a theater of war, with adults and children alike being the weapons created by way of social media propaganda.

    Children, who are the most likely to be affected and manipulated, who are also primary targets due to said vulnerabilities should be excluded from these platforms for this reason alone.

    This is a problem that’s growing at a scale to affect entire countries. Countries with populations vulnerable to social media targeting propaganda, astroturfing, and manipulation are vulnerable on the world stage.

    Making this a growing national security concern for any country.


  • It most definitely is possible in federated networks to be clear.

    Federated networks are extremely vulnerable to bots. And “organic” online narrative is easily manipulated with bots and bot driven content.

    We see this in centralized platforms like Reddit which have mature and centralized bot detection and control mechanisms which are largely ineffective in an ideal scenario for them to be the most effective.

    The only saving grace for federated services right now is that they are simply far too small to be worth the time and money to manipulate narratives on. The user bases are infinitesimal in comparison to mainstream social media.

    This changes if their popularity skyrockets. The only thing it takes to manipulate opinions and narrative is money and a vulnerable target. The fediverse is largely a vulnerable target and current mega corporations have more than enough money to do what they need done a million times over.


  • All the things you’re saying that kids need to learn about are things that they do not and cannot and will not learn about in closed wall garden environments ran by corporations. Which constitutes an ever-growing majority of children’s “experience” with the internet. “The Internet” to many is “Instagram” or “Facebook” or “Tic Tok”. It doesn’t mean anything else other than a portal to access their addiction through.

    They won’t learn about online threats or how to critically think or how to avoid being manipulated.

    Young users funnel it into centralized corporate ran networks are abused for financial gain using carefully and intentionally crafted content designed over decades to take advantage of the human psyche algorithmically shoved down their throats until they are addicted.

    This isn’t the internet children need to be on, it’s not the Internet, it’s just a corporate controlled environment that just so happen to exist along the same wires as the rest of the internet.

    As such I don’t see where your argument has any room to stand.


    Not teaching them these skills leaves them more vulnerable to online threats

    Algorithmically & bot driven social media IS the “online threat” these days.

    The only skills that they are learning are how to adapt to fit that corporate environment, which is a transitive state that often comes with the cost of actual life skills.

    Kids need to be on the internet I agree with this but their use of the internet needs to be as romantically hued as you state it. Which is unfortunately not the reality we see today.


  • It used to be valuable to explore the internet but the internet has largely been corrupted by corporate greed.

    By and large the experience Young folks have on the Internet is almost entirely through applications meant to abuse and take advantage of their underdeveloped brains. Behavior driven by algorithmic pressure.

    This is bad news bears for society.

    There isn’t a whole lot of exploring to be done for the grand majority of kids on the internet. Instead they will be classified bucketed and used for further financial gain by a select few corporations.



  • I like how you just conveniently ignore the part about a dictator oppression.

    The key word here is oppression.

    A country that is closing its eyes and deserves what they’re going to get is the US. In 20 or 30 years when the US is an authoritarian oppressive State then at that point the people don’t have a choice, just like they don’t in Russia today.

    Authoritarian oppressive states don’t just let the people think what they want to think. You are groomed and indoctrinated the moment you receive education until the day you die. The easiest way to control a populace is for the populace to not even know they’re being controlled.

    A key factor to that is limiting and restricting access to outside information. Which is what Russia does which is why the Tor project is so important









  • Heat pumps work at >100% thermal efficiency.

    Air conditioners dont.

    An air conditioner is a heat pump… That just works in one direction. It uses refrigeration just the same.

    They both rely on creating a thermal gradient between two heat exchangers. And they are both negatively affected by extreme temperature gaps.

    The heat exchanger facing outside with a heat pump must be colder than ambient temperature by a reasonable margin. The opposite goes for an AC. These qualities break down in extreme ranges for typical hardware.

    This also, as expected, reduces the efficiency.


  • Holy shit, that hits close to home.

    For me it’s Checks room and partner is stuck on Instagram/Facebook/Tiktok.

    Or partner takes 45m to do a 5min task because they take 10m standing breaks every minute to doomscroll.

    Then complain that they don’t have any time to do their normal shared workload. Or play with the kid with me, or walk the dogs…etc