Trump says the United States does not need oil, gas, vehicles, or lumber imports from his allies to the north.
Trump made the comments Thursday, in his first speech to world leaders since returning to the White House for his second term.
I’d love to watch the US handle skyrocketing prices because they got rid of all the immigrants, then they got rid of Canadian lumber and oil, causing those prices to skyrocket as well.
Add to that the costs of the yet again border wall, costs of the immigration
death campsvacation parks with all the guards, legal shit and transportation, the tax cuts for the wealthy and the extra taxes for people who already can’t make it to the end of the month.So far, el cheeto is doing GREAT!
Something occurred to me while watching some news yesterday. It won’t take ICE raids removing people from farms for the effect to materialize. The fear from raids will cause people to stop showing up for work at the farms before that. That’s why I think we’ll see the effects on food prices quicker.
That’s the thing, Canada is mostly a raw materials exporter and the main importer is US industry.
It’d basically be like when China tried to “Wolf-warrior” Australia and ended up with coal, pork and grain shortages.
Then I guess Canada can just switch lumber production and construction standards over to metric now.
A 2x4 stopped being a 2x4 so long ago, and keeps becoming less, we might as well measure them in metric now
2x4 has always been the nominal, unplaned dimension since forever.
You are making me show my age now. When I renovated homes 30+ years ago the studs were sawn 2x4 with sharp corners. The replacement stuff was like 1.75-1.875 x 3.75 the new ones at the stores now are like 1.5 x 3.5.
Yah, I just moved an old farmhouse (1962) to another quarter section on the farm, and all the old structure was that square planed stuff, but it was finished 1.5x3.5. I think that’s what came out of the one-off mills around a lot of these places at the time. The smoothplaned stuff was kept in the city.
Yeah looks like pre 60s going back to the 1920s it was sawn to 2x4 inches. There are some standards online per time range. Also found most stuff we worked on pre 50s was hardwood. Trying to cut old studs in some places was a nightmare for our blades. That or it became petrified LOL.
Fir. That old douglas fir dries hard as nails. Old barns are all nominal thickness and if you buy boards for livestock pens, they’ll all be roughcut full dimension still.
There’s a joke to be made here that the Amish still use actual 2x4’s, but it’s a bit dated.
Metric is more precise.
Fight me.
/s
Part of my work is with manufacturers and dimensional drawing info. Inches can be precise but some North American industries insist on fractional rounding on drawings (as a tolerance signifier). Then they chase QA stuff on why the assembly doesn’t go together per the print. It frustrates me…guys just used decimals!
Shortly after, tradespeople across Canada burst in flames.
Every country that transitioned had some difficulty l, and it is a good idea for a metric country to use metric in construction … but it would make for good political ammunition.
Maple. Syrup.
Trump can ban Canadian imports to prove that he’s not bluffing
But we do need the Food that Canada grows and exports to the US. So fuck you trump you idiot. He bankrupted a CASINO!!!
“We’re going to be demanding respect from other nations,” Trump said.
Respect needs to be mutual. He sounds like the typical asshole uncle that always acts like they’re owed respect be have never showed any in return.
Reminds me of this image:
Most of the world had respect for America before Maga surfaced and it was revealed that it was full of Morons and Nazis. At least more than was suspected before.
This how the aholes in my company treated our vendors. Vendors said go suck it, leading to increasing lead times to “yeah I dk when you’ll get stuff” for a year. The fact it happened 2x in a few year is mine boggling.
Ah, did you work for a Volkswagen or General Motors supplier in the late 1990s and early 2000s?
Because I recall that exact situation, and the resulting crash of quality.
Rofl I won’t say much but let’s say I’m very certain they were rehired somewhere I know and then fired for the same behavior. Lessons here is don’t hire anyone from auto industry. They are just bullies.
Respect is earned, not given.
I mean we could just close the borders/ air travel a few days a week as a trial run to see how it goes. A trail separation if you will
Does that mean we can answer the late night calls from the EU?
I suppose Albertans in oil and gas should call Danielle and tell her to stop the clown tricks and join Team Canada now.
That would require them to have the ability to perceive consequences in the future.
These are the type of people that get a notoriously unstable job making 6 figures on a high school education and immediately lease a brand new $80K truck and start a coke habit because they can currently afford it.
Yeah. That’s the Alberta legislature, but what about its citizens? They’re gonna be out of a job unless Alberta thinks of something else.
I have an idea: do what Peter lougheed promised to do, which won the election for the cons for the first time in decades. Do that. He didn’t, and they didn’t, so maybe now? Just grab his notes.
they’re going to be out of a job
Isnt that kind of their own fault, though? Aren’t they the ones that keep electing these mini brains who only care about themselves?
Maybe we should do what I’ve been suggesting over and over and over and over and over again when I lived in Alberta and BUILD REFINING CAPACITY.
I just can’t with them…I worked with so many O&G folks back in my day. Nobody ever wanted to acknowledge our dependence and vulnerability. Just whistling loudly past graveyard after graveyard.
“Team Canada” is bogus crap. Interprovincial trade barriers mean the cult mantra of "Team Canada is a distraction tactic from blaming the Liberal party for any tariffs and loss of jobs in Canada.
I can’t imagine 12 of 13 premiers would agree on taking some of the heat off of any federal party, especially one that’s all but leaderless.
Is the federal party that you are saying is leaderless? Why do you say 12 out of 13? Who are you not counting, and why?
I’m sure you must know the answers already but clearly I’m replying to your comment and referring to the Liberals, the party whose leader has announced his resignation. And once again, it’s pretty clear Danielle Smith is the odd one out. She refused to sign off on the first ministers letter a couple weeks ago and every single other premier has been specifically quoted as supporting a team Canada approach, even Scott Moe.
Danielle Smith’s priority is making sure Canadians keep their jobs. Tariffs on Canadian imports results in layoffs of Canadians so they are out of work, out of a job.
Trump can go fuck himself!
“Felon who has had no need or interest in the price of oil, gas, vehicles or lumber makes statements about the necessity of oil, gas, vehicles, and lumber”
Fixed the headline
Make America Great Depression Again
MAGDA!
Arguably accurate on the oil front as the US net exports, but the housing crisis is gonna get real bad after the price of lumber triples, ending all construction…
Esp considering they need to rebuild a good chunk of LA. Bad time to make anything more expensive for anyone.
Don’t they have to rework their refineries in order to replace Canadian oil? Instead the refineries currently working with Canadian oil are specifically built to process dillbit, due to having been built to use Venezuelan dillbit originally.
That and Canadian oil sells at a discount. Cut off the largest foreign oil supply and replace it with domestic oil that sells at full price, all while every trader knows you are buying up all the excess oil to refill the strategic reserve, and hooo boy are gas prices going to go up.
Thats a conservative talking point.
Dilbit sells for crap all because its crap quality.
What’s a conservative talking point? That WCS sells for less than WTI? That’s not at all a political statement, that’s just a fact.
It is a political statement when the problem is framed as one of market access.
The problem is not market access. The problem is that WCS is very high density and very high sulphur content. Those result in it always selling at a severe discount to WTI.
True, the refineries would be an issue, but I don’t think anyone has thought through what halting all construction is going to do to a housing market with a $24k/year national average to make rent already.
Oh yes I didn’t mean to deny the point on housing.
Who knew it was all so complicated? /s
Also pipelines. sure there is enough oil but canada has a pipeline to minnesota so canadan oil is what they use. North dakota oil does go through minnesota but to a different refinery someplace east that can use it.
I know that Trump plans to “drill baby drill” but realistically they don’t need to replace our oil at all; if they lost our supply entirely it’d just make their gas a bit more expensive. They already have a surplus.
It’s ok. After they’re all deported, we won’t have any more migrant laborers to build anything anyway (I’m (sadly) American).
If the US net exports oil, why does it need ours?
Oil markets are weird, it seems, and something about different refineries for different oil. It does strike me as odd that we import massive quantities of Canadian oil that’s prone to explode while also exporting massive quantities, but that’s what the official numbers say 🤷♂️
He’s probably right wrt the USA needing our exports, as much as it sucks for us.
Maybe now we’ll actually diversify our industries and seek out new buyers.
Probably not though, since PP is gonna be in charge and that man baby only wants to double down on selling oil to the USA, and thats the entire extent of his economic plan. And by that I mean he is gonna throw money at oil companies and hope it magically turns into more sales to the USA.
What’s the opposite of diversify?Consolidation.
Going to be so awesome when dealer lots get overfilled with Chrysler minivans and GM SUVs that nobody wants and can’t be exported, meanwhile affordable Chinese EVs that Canadians actually desire are slapped with 100% import tarrifs as protectionism for American and Japanese corporations.
Minivans are the best. I own a DGC built in Ottawa. Reliable AF. Huge cargo capacity. Gets 21MPG on the highway. Basically use it as a truck, but it’s way more practical than a truck because the cargo capacity is more and your stuff doesn’t get wet when it rains.
Only real downsize is tow capacity.
I had a Honda Odyssey, it was a good (and powerful) all around vehicle, but I did not enjoy filling the tank. We drive a Fit now, average 35mpg city and 56mpg highway. Even filling that up bothers me lol.
The thing is I don’t drive unless I’m carrying stuff, so a car without cargo space isn’t useful.
I get it. That is the nice thing about the Fit, and its fold flat or flip up seats. We have put an 8 foot tree in it; 3 full size IKEA bucket chairs, 4 could have squeezed in passenger seat maybe.
Yeah, odyssey was like that. Super handy during Renos. I just didn’t like the “fill’r up” price :)
