That makes sense to me :) The people maintaining it can add in the Lemmy comments as needed

We have a GitHub organization for our instance, I’ll see if I can make a public repo and copy in the comments of this post

This could work well!

While I haven’t tested these extensively, you could give them a try (both are foss):

• SD Maid SE: App Control > Export App
• Kvaesitso: long tap > 3 dot menu > Share app

First one is designed for managing / cleaning up app storage. Second one is a launcher, so it might be a bit janky if all you need to do is transfer an app

Oh this is interesting, thank you

We could also split this question into two parts to get both

• self-identify what the person thinks is accurate
• a more accurate value based on the new Statscan definition, maybe with a link to a website that can tell people which one applies to them

I’ll pass along any of these suggestions while we weigh options. Last year we made sure to turn off any email tracking so at least we (the admins) can’t see any additional personal information aside from what is inputted on the census, but I agree that a better option would be ideal

Whatever is easiest for people :)

Some options that come to mind:

• a markdown file on git / GitHub
• a shared Google Docs file
• back and forth comments on Lemmy?

Sounds like they want everyone to download directly from the Play store, and not in a way they can’t control?

Same trend as the official OS only apps, overzealous ‘Play Protect’, etc.

You can still use Files by Google to share Android applications in a similar manner. Under Categories, go to “Apps” and then the overflow menu for what you want to “Share.”

A lot of other apps still support it, including FOSS ones, unless the play app did something extra?

For example

• SD Maid SE: App Control > Export App
• Kvaesitso: long tap > 3 dot menu > Share app
• F-Droid for all of their apps

Yea we picked Google forms for convenience mostly. We want to switch to something better at some point. In my quick look around, there are a few self-hosted options that could work.

Maybe in the future we could collectively make a few templates with the selected questions for that year. That way instances can use whichever method they have the resources to run, but still get the same format of data afterwards

If your team does come across something better, I’d be interested in exploring further

Does it log IP addresses of respondents?

While the survey creator can’t see any of those details, I imagine Google may be tracking things on their end.

This is very detailed, thank you for your thoughts!

That makes sense to me, to organize the questions into

• base questions (used by everyone, repeated annually)
• a few questions (used by everyone, on a particular census)
• instance specific questions (up to each instance)

I’m going to be away for a few days, but I’ll see about listing out these new questions and other changes. Maybe we can put them somewhere to make it easier to collaborate and track changes?

For self-identification, free text means people are more likely to write what they actually want instead of trying to push themselves into the box of listed options, even if there is an Other option. However, it’s also a lot of work to group things, and things need to be grouped to make any decent result visualisation. Plus people should be allowed to group themselves instead of me doing it. So I suggest a predefined list with an Other free-text option.

That makes sense, I’m leaning towards doing that. I’ve also gotten some suggestions on where to get the lists from so that should work :)

Oh I see ok, if the plan is a word cloud then that’s simple too since we don’t have to process anything

Thanks! I’ll add it to the list of potential questions to add

Thanks! I’ll add it to the list of potential questions to add

This could be cool, I’ll add it to the list of potential questions to add

For the self identification question, would it be possible to use the top x results (with similar results combined) from the word cloud as fixed options this year?

This could work well for some of them!

For the field of work question, the grouping last year was partially for my own convenience when going through the data. It might be better to use some other list for that one

This could be cool. Do you have recommendations on how such a question should look? (sliders/text input, what categories to ask, etc)

Oops, good catch thanks!

I’ll update it on our notes and then fix the posts later

I’d be open to either!

Would anyone have some links that can help people determine what their area classifies as?

If it helps (and if your instance is ok with using Google forms too), we should be able to share the template for others to copy

Ok that’s good to hear 😄

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