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    I wonder if it was a Trojan statue, but the exit got blocked a tree or something, and there’s a few dead Frenchmen inside

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      not so fun fact: Ann Coulter wanted to sleep with my dad when he was in college, and once invited him to her house for the weekend, but he turned her down. I thank my lucky stars everyday that Ann Coulter isn’t my mom.

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    You mean people can’t just say whatever they want on Twitter anymore! They’re actually going to get fact checked!

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    Imagine not having a job, just sitting all day, and still getting shit wrong. Being BTFO’d by the community notes, on X of all places, is embarrassing for a conservative, or whatever she is.

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    I don’t think Grover Cleveland got a lot of personal use out of a 305 foot statue.

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    1. France was (and I’m using past tense here because relations are strained due to…gestures generally) one of USA’s first allies. They provided political, navel, and monetary assistance during the revolutionary war. They were one of the first counties to acknowledge us as an independent country once the war was over.

    2. The statue was commissioned as a gift to the US, not to the president. It doesn’t have any listening equipment and it sits as a tourist attraction, along with information about our long standing alliance.

    3. It wasn’t a fucking bribe!!!

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      Something that provides a whole lot of modern context is realizing that America was France’s early “Proxy war”. They wanted to give Britain a hard time, and so they gave colonials weapons to do it. Both of us won out from that exchange.

      The key part here is that France didn’t keep an iron stranglehold of us. It was enough to win us our freedom that we would want to be their buddies without being forced. Fun story for anyone who insists the US wants to control the Ukrainian government.

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        Both of us won out from that exchange.

        You might want to look into what happened to the French government and its leadership shortly after funding that little proxy war. Let me give you a quick rundown, because I enjoy history:

        The American Revolution was incredibly expensive and put France into an extreme financial crisis. Of course, the court’s extravagent personal spending didn’t help things (and made for better revolutionary propaganda), but in reality it was about 6% of total government expenditure, while loan payments, mostly from the war, represented around 50%. Even with very high taxes, it was impossible to balance the budget. A report from March 1788 estimated a deficit of 20% of expenditures, which could only be made up by more borrowing

        This financial crisis led to the king calling the Estates General, something that hadn’t been done in hundreds of years, to bring representatives of the three estates (nobility, clergy, and everyone else) together to work out a solution. When an agreement could not be reached, the representatives of the third estate left the Estates General and declared that they were creating a “National Assembly,” which claimed to represent the popular democratic will, and started work on a new constitution. The royal family ended up declared traitors and got their heads chopped off. And the rest is history. (My source for this is an old book I own called The Coming of the French Revolution by Georges Lefebvre)

        So, dumping a bunch of money on a proxy war in a bid to raise their geopolitical status and undermine their rival didn’t really work out so well for France. They were so focused on playing geopolitics against Britain, but by failing to address declining conditions at home, they created a much more dangerous domestic threat which brought about the government’s downfall.

      • InverseParallax@lemmy.world
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        Pfft, I don’t want to control the Ukrainian government.

        I just want Russia to suffer for their crimes.

        We are not the same.

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          The assholes are bombing the reactor containment over the incident site they created originally, I am more than happy to ship all the bombs to Kyiv so they can walk into Moscow and hang the war criminal in charge

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            Nah, takes too long.

            We should spring for express shipping, sure we have some air-launched cruise missiles we can mount to b-1bs to handle the logistics.

            What we really need to do is send some f22s on ‘training maneuvers’, and be extremely surprised when random sukhoi start falling out of the sky.

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              Not a bad idea. Some 22s logging training hours flying from Poland to Finland to visit our friends while the Lancers practice nighttime maneuvers out of Elmendorf would have Ivan shitting his pants as things start exploding from all around, one thing we do very well is long range logistics.

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      I think autocorrect got you, unless there was a secret bellybutton supply we don’t know about?

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      Technically, if the Qatari plane gets instated as property of Air Force One operations then it belongs to the US and not the president. It would have been better to lean on the fact that Saudi Arabia is a direct sponsor to many groups and nations that the USA lists as adversaries.

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        Given that Trump is explicitly granting it to his Presidential library or whatever bullshit, and therefore restricting its use to his own purposes - no, it would effectively not belong to the US.

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          Trump’s Library is vaporware. He made a lot of noise about how great it was going to be and “the best Presidential Library ever,” and grifted and conned and got donations. Still waiting for that first golden shovel to break ground.

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      President Cleveland can only equally enjoy the Statue of Liberty as much as anyone else. Trump would enjoy that plane infinitely more than the rest of us.

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        If the plane crashes and takes Trump with it, the rest of us would enjoy it infinitely more.

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          You best believe that for as long as Trump’s using the plane he better make sure that he doesn’t speak ill of his benefactors, otherwise that plane is likely to suffer an accidental de-planing.

          Thats the scary thing about this. Not only is making it AF1 capable going to be a multi years long retrofitting process, costing millions upon millions of dollars alone, but it’ll still be questionable in regards to kill switches and snoopers.

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            There is literally zero chance that the bribe plane will be considered secure enough for the president before 2030, which makes Trump saying he would keep it after leaving office a confession that it is a personal bribe.

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        I bet he totally got special access to go up to the crown or torch whenever he wanted.

        Checkmate!

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    big difference in accepting a gift on behalf of your countrymen and accepting a gift in opposition of your countrymen.

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      The big difference really is accepting a gift as the POTUS, and accepting a gift that they keep as a personal item.

      Many presidents receive gifts from foreign nationals (with congressional approval). The big difference is they always had to leave it when they were no longer the president (they go to the National Archive). Trump already declared that after he steps down, he will keep it for himself.

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        Last time he left the White House they took anything that wasn’t nailed down.

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    Though if a congressional vote was held on the Qatari golden airliner, it’d pass along party lines, as no Republicans want to incur the wrath of the King. A few may hem and haw and express how troubled they are by the, ahem, highly irregular nature of this deal, but would ultimately wave it through. (Bonus: a handful of Democrats may vote to approve, out of an instinctual desire to reach across the aisle and build bridges or whatever.)

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      Bonus: a handful of Democrats may vote to approve, out of an instinctual desire to reach across the aisle and build bridges or whatever lick boot

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      TBH, from a political standpoint, if this went through all the regular channels and procedures then I would at least be supportive of dropping the tariffs on SA. It’s nice to have a middle eastern nation still willing to oppose Russia after all of this.

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      He said not long ago that they were looking at it as a feature because it consistently kept correcting him and calling him out lol. It was one of his (many) dumb ass tweets where he just said “investigating” or “looking into this” or some crap. I would not be surprised at all if it’s changed or removed very shortly.

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        I’d also accept that nobody left they’re knows how to remove it

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          …left *there

          My dumb trick for checking, in case it helps another: T(here and there), which also helps with here and hear.

          English is dumb, and after writing this out and spelling it several times, needing to correct the autocorrect… it all looks wrong now, and I am questioning my spelling abilities entirely.

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            Well it was auto correct from swipe typing that got us into this mess in the first place.

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      Most likely because if he would, it would remove one of the last barriers Twitter has to being sanctioned even harder by eg. the EU.

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      Haha, I was coming here to ask who gave her a blood meal. If 80s movies taught me anything, it was some suspiciously mature looking “teens” that went to party in her tomb.

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    Ann Coulter is an odd bird. She seems to be running interference for Trump on this one. Sometimes she’s not afraid to buck Trumpism. I know she’s awful, but if she could pick a lane, I’d appreciate it.

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      She has a lane and it is called “What is in the best interest of Ann Coulter right now?”

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        It least there is logic consistency there

        Which most of trump supporters lack…

        I am happy as long daddy trump is grifting for himself 🤡

        Pwning libs is another return for them