I’d like to see numbers at scale. I don’t see too many people taking pay cuts yet
Myself included lol.
Moi même aussi lol
G’day knackers, what’s crack-a-lackin?
Shit I was studying German.
Pas besoin du “même”, juste: “moi aussi” :)
J’espère que la France vous plaira, bonne adaptation!
Est-ce qu’on distribue les baguettes, les cigarettes et les bérets obligatoires à la frontière française, ou est-ce plutôt une chose parisienne ?
Aix Marseille University
It’s not the best place or they want to attract some people for a better reputation after COVID issues.
Raoult is know full conspiracy theories.
Left for Taiwan in the first Trump presidency. Haven’t been back since.
Cool, what you’re doing over there?
Website optimization. My customers are global so I can work remotely.
If only I had money…
I’m doing my part fleeing to Sweden, granted I’m a programmer and game dev so not a scientist. I’m done letting the US profit off my skills though
You will like it, Sweden has a nice relaxed working culture where we actually care about how people feel at work.
I assume you’re taking a big hit salary-wise (a trade-off I would make, for the record).
Cost of living. You earn a lot less in Europe/ UK, but you pay far less to have a basic standard of living, and enjoy the safety net.
This is always said, I have seen the stats that prove it but I have just never come across people here that are as strapped and in debt as a lot of americans I meet. Not to mention the amount of additional taxes like state, county, huge property taxes. The numbers must add up, I wont deny the facts but how itnworks is beyond me
Well I’m going back to school there first to get an actual degree. After that though yeah I’m expecting to make around 1/3 what I am currently, between switching countries and going from automation engineering to level design. I think it’ll be a worthwhile trade-off too
If you take into account all the things you don’t have to pay, that salary is not that low
Out of interest, since moving continents is no small matter in my opinion; what makes that, and making a third in terms of salary vs the US, a worthwhile trade-off?
Lots of reasons over the years but the most immediately pressing is I’m trans so if the US starts black bagging people I’m high up there on the list
Not OP but like come on, look outside - the country is a roadside attraction. I wouldnt raise my kids there under any circumstance…so I guess safety is a consideration.
Certain stuff, and especially rent, is a lot cheaper in Europe, though.
It was a pretty big shock for us when so many of the Ukrainian refugees that arrived during recent years came in SUVs, and they looked quite new, too. But in Ukraine, one of Europe’s poorest countries by far, cars cost a lot less, too.
I’m in the process of getting certified to be a nurse in New Zealand. Fuck this country.
Welcome home to the capital country of gaming!
I’ve been saying it since 2016: the EU should start granting political asylum to people from the US.
I moved from the U.S. to Germany in 2020.
My running joke since was wondering whether I’d be eligible for citizenship or asylum first….
Almost over the finish line for being eligible for citizenship, but I feel like asylum isn’t that far off.
You don’t need asylum if you are a legal resident. Asylum is the most insecure form of permit, especially in Germany, where the society is currently getting more and more hostile to migration, including labeling countries like Afghanistan as “safe countries of origin” and organizing deportations with the Taliban.
Reverse the brain drain of the 1930s.
Sure, 1930s…
There are already a handful of good digital nomad (and other) visa options that are really tempting.
I haven’t done a TON of research here, just watched a lot of youtube videos discussing the process, daydreaming of placing some distance between myself and Trump. There are a handful of countries across Europe I’d jump at the chance to move to if there were reasonable odds to get permanent residence or citizenship.
omg then the EU as we know it wont exist for long if such policies were to be implemented.
because it would be full of people?
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Are you saying “they’re not sending their best”?
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You could move to East Asia or to Israel yourself. That is, if you’re intelligent enough.
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Need any IT?
Germany needs plenty. But only the cheap ones with expert knowledge. That’s not how they would word it though
Well, the correct german word is to say ‘Fachkräftemangel’ which in my experience translates to ‘We need someone with 20+ years of experience, that we can pay like an intern’
pardonnez-moi, puis-je vous intéresser à un programmeur?
Canada seriously needs to make a big show of offering the same thing. It’s now or never.
Or, you know, force investors to sell.
A lot of scientists get paid terribly in Canada unfortunately. Certain industries are non existent or exist to support the US industry (mainly pharma)
We don’t have the housing. Carney needs to get the government into home building yesterday.
it’s the perfect time to use that Canadian steel and aluminum
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deport all the illegals. its easier and faster than house building.
Please stop parroting this notion that Canada’s problems mirror those if the united states.
The number of so called “illegals” pales in comparison to the number of foreign investors buying up property and jacking IP the rental rates.
I’m just going to correct you here. The problem if Canadian housing isn’t foreign investors (they account by like 2% of the real state market), but the absurd zoning laws and the “missing middle”.
Check our “oh the urbanity” youtube channel, they do a really good analysis on Canadian houses markets.
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You should probably go back to whatever hole conservatives hide in nowadays. Xitter seems more your speed for trolling
Reddit, I heard
No no no, you’re trying to be a better place than the US. Stop talking like them.
This conversation is a retard magnet, unfortunately.
we deport and then the can come the legal way!
Most in Canada are here legally, might want to check your sources.
dude, as much as i’m anti-immigration, you’re overdoing it, and also, your proposals are ineffective.
in germany, for example, the population that immigrated since 2012 makes up approx. 3% of the total population. that means that the population is roughly 3% larger than it would be without that immigration.
that is what you should be talking about. 3% larger population means higher workforce (supply of labor), and therefore lower wages (prices for labor). That is because the immigrants add almost no demand for labor (since they have a low buying power).
Demand for labor is mainly driven by growth, and we’ve had two big waves of growth since 1800: Quantitative (industrialization) and qualitative (IT work). Since both of these two waves end their growth approx. now, the demand for labor goes down. There’s no point in importing more labor force, it would only make the wages go down. That is what you have to talk about: the decreasing wages through the import of cheap labor. It’s essentially wage-dumping in the own country. That is what the people should be talking about. Not racism. We’re not better people than them, we just need to get the workforce smaller to drive the wages up.
That requires, ofc, that the borders are closed also for goods and products. If products have to be produced inside the country because the borders are closed, companies can’t just do the wage dumping in another country.
Btw, almost everywhere the number of illegal immigrants is extremely low. In the US, they make up 25% of all immigrants, IIRC, which is not much. There’s not much there to talk about, especially since these illegal immigrants are good at hiding and hard to catch. But what you can do is to study the socio-economic consequences of immigration/high birth rate and then draw your conclusions. If you really care about the people, you’d first close the borders in all developed countries, and then drop the birth rate really really low. That would give power to the people, since they are in higher demand, and keep the wages as high as possible, because the production would stay approx. constant (think the farmland is constant) but the consumption is lowest, so there’s more resources for everyone.
Y’all need data analysts?
Data analysts with decades of wine industry experience?
I know a guy…
Sadly, France doesn’t have a very well developed wine industry yet!
If only some Americans could show them the way… I’m sure all they’re missing are some sick viral marketing campaigns, maybe replace the corks with sports-drink style suck-on plastic caps and some bold colourful text on the labels. Of course we’ll also have to replace the grapes with corn syrup to improve margins.
Just don’t tell anyone about The Judgment of Paris and similar events that showed the wine world, and French wines in particular, in a very poor light.
You may have a look to Bordeaux’s University. There are litterally school and research center for wine 🤣
https://www.u-bordeaux.fr/universite/organisation-et-fonctionnement/composantes-de-formation/isvv
France is crushing it lately it seems.
$16M for 3 scientists for 3 years? I hope those scientists are bringing their whole labs with them?
Top level scientists/professors are like famous sports players. Recruiting them is a prestige boost which attracts students and employees, but also can have very direct results if they manage some breakthrough or novel solution.
Talking about labs. Building, organizing and running those is far harder than spending money on equipment usually.
Why not? That’s ~1.77 million per year per scientist. Yes, that is a lot of money. But if you think about it, those scientists might be able to start multibillion dollar economies. They can train hundreds of experts in their field. And some lousy CEO of some stupid company gets paid more
Maybe they are just being well paid
This is a foreign concept to American scientists.
Also very foreign to french scientists tbh
i hope they are engineers or doctors. not the “science” of gender studies. lol
I hope you have the day you deserve. lol.
You got a problem with people wanting to not be pieces of shit huh?
Anyways here is some good book recommendations for everyone else.
1: My Lesbian Experience with Loneliness by Nagata Kabi
2: Fun Home by Alison Bechdel (Yes the same Bechdel behind the Bechdel test)
3: How We Fight for Our Lives by Saeed Jones
What’s wrong with gender studies? Fiji has three genders!
Dang. That’s cool.
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There are as many as we want, they’re a social construct.
EDIT - Just so anyone reading this knows, their deleted comment was, “There are more than three genders.”
i deleted it because the joke was not obvious nor good. i think there are only 2 sexes. afaik, gender is something other in english?
Sex and gender are not the same thing. Sounds like you need a gender studies course.
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I for one welcome our new French overlords
I was planning to try and immigrate to Europe from the shithole country I was born into. The last thing I need is Americans competing with me for the same. Grrrrr
what’s your shithole country like and do you wanna trade
do you want my real opinion? ok here it goes: if you were born in a shithole then the % is high that you are a net negative economic contributor for the EU.
but you are on lemmy and write english so you cant be that bad.
Usually when you ask if someone wants something, you wait for them to say yes before providing it.
Based on your other comments in this thread, you don’t know much about immigration so your opinion isn’t worth much
i know. it was a rhetorical question. Do you know this type? No! xD :) (i agree with your first paragraph. i wont make such a question again, its dumb.)
Assuming this Lucas guy is in Europe, I vote we exchange him for 1 or more immigrants. Bye Lucas, we won’t see you again since you hate immigration.
This guy is getting ratio’d in this thread for insanely stupid takes. But this one is wild. Are you saying they should stay in their shit hole country and make it better themselves? It’s their responsibility to fix a COUNTRY? It’s their own freedom to decide what to do and where to go. If they’re from the EU and a shithole country it’s likely an eastern EU war ravaged country by world antagonist Putin. I’d wanna gtfo too
If they’re from the EU
This part doesn’t make sense. Why would they be from the EU if they were “planning to try and immigrate to Europe”?
That’s true, I misread the OP 🤦♂️
no. just read my comment. that is all i wrote. i never said the words which you wrote about staying.
