• LandedGentry@lemmy.zip
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    51 minutes ago

    I think the conspiracies that he somehow didn’t do it are nonsense, however I think his “not guilty” plea and approach to this clearly shows that he is down to put the whole (corrupt) process on full display and make an absolute mockery of the legal system - a system that definitely needs to be mocked.

    Unfortunately for the state, they’re doing a very good job of supporting him in his cause.

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    It’s never made sense to me, TBH. I’ve just assumed he’s being railroaded. In his case the cops just planted a gun instead of drugs like they do to every other person they want to lock up without cause.

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    It seems more and more everyday that vigilante justice is the only justice against this corrupt corporate tyranny. I think we all wish this wasn’t the case but as my dad used to say you can wish in one hand and 💩 in the other and see what hand fills up first

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    I have worked in private security and law enforcement. I have searched people and their bags at security checkpoints to enter government buildings after 9-11. I’ve strip searched males in lockup. There is no way a trained cop or even an experienced security guard would miss something bigger than a tube of lipstick in a backpack. Nothing found in the backpack at Micky Ds and then found a handgun after taking it inside of a police station? Sounds to me like the gun was driven to the police station separately to be planted in the bag. A 3D printed gun could be made by anyone, including the cops. #ACAB

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    When I picked up bodies for the Medical Examiner’s Office, we had very strict chain of custody rules we had to follow. If the decedent had any valuables on their person (purse, wallet, jewelry, etc), or any medication, we had to write detailed descriptions of every item found (a gold ring is not a gold ring, it’s a gold colored ring), then package it all up with the ranking police officer on the scene as a witness who then signs the sealed bag. Even the slightest deviation from this would get us immediately fired, and even prosecuted if surviving family members made any accusations about theft.

    In a capital murder case where an alleged murderer/terrorist can potentially walk free because the chain of custody rules weren’t followed, how the fuck does this cop still have a job? How is she not being charged with tampering with evidence and obstruction of justice?

    Don’t get me wrong, I am all for letting Luigi go free, but this is a fuck-up of monumental proportions.

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    Luigi is innocent. He did not kill Brian Thompson. He is a hero by the simple virtue that he is an innocent young man who was dragged through hell over something he didn’t do and is having his life put on the line.

    As for who actually did it. I hope he lives a long, quiet life.

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    So they not only have to find 12 people who haven’t been fucked personally or had friends family fucked by their health insurance, now those 12 people have to be blind Pig supporters?

    Anything other than a not guilty (or some insanely strong evidence with a perfect chain of custody) verdict for this guy and the fix is in.

    If they convict Luigi get the fuck out while you still can, cause the alternative is guerilla warfare against the Gilead states of orange stupidity.

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    Plot twist: good guy policewoman deliberately makes it impossible to prosecute Luigi.

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    She also found a napkin with a drawn map of Deeley Plaza with lines of fire, and a Polaroid of Shergar cuffed to a radiator.

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    Goes to show how much this isn’t about Luigi, or even Brian Thompson. It’s about the elite sending a message to the other 99%. Think, even if their case against Luigi is rocky at best, all that matters is they can get him to pay for Brian, regardless of whether he did it or not, or where the evidence points.

    All that matters is that we the “peasants” get the underlying message:

    • If you kill/harm an elite they’ll chase you and make you pay with the full weight of their resources (and emphasis on “resources”, not necessarily “law”).
    • If you did not kill or harm an elite you’re still at risk, because then they’ll choose a “peasant” scapegoat to pay anyway.

    All that matters is that they get to take their pound of flesh, and that the “peasantry” gets discouraged to fight for their rights as the elite takes, and takes and takes.

    Which is why it’s so important that regardless of Luigi having done it or not, he should walk free unless there’s solid, undeniable evidence of him doing it, like an actual and verified non-deepfake video of the assassination with his clear face on it. And even then he must only face the consequences the law demands, and what others would face in his place for killing the everyday average Joe. The fact that the life lost was an elite should have no bearing on the consequences.

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      Even with that lets be clear Mr. Tompson was responsable for many more deaths for the sake of profit, only deemed not murder because its legal, I do not care if there where 30 videos proven to be genuine, and he said his name when he did it, the jury should nulify. Not because murder is correct, but because well millions died in part because of Brian Tompson, and if the state will do nothing to hold him accountable someone else has to.

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      Sure, but it’s gonna be a real stupid attempt if they take it to trial with such shaky evidence, all it takes is a single juror going “lol no way do I trust that evidence” and the jury is hung, a few jurors on his side and he could likely be found not guilty and that would be the end of that, no retrial, he walks a free man.

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        A hung jury is not an automatic dismissal. The judge can allow a retrial and in this case they absolutely will. Over and over again, until they get the result they want.

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        I assume that jury selection on this particular trial was almost certainly tampered with to pick the least sympathetic to accused to out right bribed or blackmailed into being told how they will decide the case or else.

        Brian Thompson was murdered, but all the evidence that has been made publicly available certainly suggest that Mangione had nothing to do with it. The images release of the shooting and the hotel do not match, purportedly the hotel images were 2 weeks old at the time, we’ve gotten no other proof that he was even in the city on the day of the shooting, as well as the backpack found in central park abandoned, yet supposedly 3 days later the suspect had the fake IDs, weapon and manifest on his person while out to lunch?

        I’m sorry but no, this entire thing reads like they just want to crucify Luigi because they fucked up their investigation so bad they’re never going to catch the real culprit and his name must have been on a watch list or something to make him a convenient scapegoat.

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      But that’s actually a risky strategy. If it becomes too obvious they’re pinning it on the wrong guy, the narrative will flip to “If you kill one of them, they will just have a random scapegoat take the fall and let you go free”

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    The pictures of Luigi in the lobby of the hostel were taken 3 miles away from the shooting, two weeks before the shooting. The jacket, backpack, eyes and eyebrows of the shooter don’t match Luigi’s. I think that immediately after the shooting, cops used Palantir or similar technology to do an AI search of images similar to the shooter. That just meant anyone on a camera the cops had access to wearing a green jacket with a hood and a black neck gaiter. The image of Luigi smiling at a girl in the lobby of a hostel two weeks earlier was the best match the AI found, so they framed his ass. Cops do it all the time. Ask the Central Park Five. NYPD and prosecutors would rather let a guilty man go free than admit that they lied and framed someone.

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    Hooooooleeeeeeee fuck that is a comically blatant frame job

    But also: corroborating articles? I’m not finding anything from AP or similar that back this up. How fresh is this?

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      corroborating articles

      https://www.wtaj.com/news/local-news/new-photos-show-luigi-mangiones-arrest-defense-argues-for-evidence-to-be-suppressed/

      The defense argues that the search of Mangione’s backpack further violated his rights, arguing that there were no circumstances that constituted police conducting a warrantless search of the backpack. In the motion, Mangione’s lawyers wrote that it was only once an officer conducting the search “she had made a potentially devastating mistake by thoroughly searching the backpack of a murder suspect in a significant New York press case without a warrant, she suddenly stated that she was searching through the backpack at McDonald’s to make sure there ‘wasn’t a bomb or anything in here’.” However, Mangione’s defense team notes that the bomb squad was never called and the McDonalds was not evacuated over concerns of a bomb, but that another officer did tell the officer conducting the search that they “probably need a search warrant for it.”

      Defense attorneys claim that some of the body cam footage is missing including 20 seconds of when Mangione was being questioned by a police when an officer placed his hand over his body cam and the 11 minutes during which the backpack was transferred from the McDonalds to the Altoona Police Department Precinct. The motion goes on the state that once that officer’s body cam footage resumes, it shows her immediately re-opening and closing the backpack compartments she already searched and then opening the front compartment of the backpack “as if she was specifically looking for something. Instantly, she ‘found’ a handgun in the front compartment.”

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        Good find. That does indeed look pretty damning in the context of chain of custody. I’d be fairly shocked if a reasonable judge doesn’t tell the DA to go fuck themselves with anything yielded from “his backpack”, given that. But that’s also highly dependent on the judge.

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          You know that they’ve selected a judge non randomly. It’s safe to assume the judge is going to let this evidence in, but it’s possible that the appeals court will overrule them. I’m sure the defense is hoping for the best and planning for the worst.