Men, help me read eye contact.

Mainly interested in this guy who’s always extremely serious when looking at me: he holds eye contact and i’ve caught him looking at me when I can’t see him but whenever we interact he’s dead serious.

Never smiled back to me, he’s always nice though… He doesn’t seem shy but maybe I can’t tell cause he seems very masculine… I don’t understand if he’s just serious, or shy or intentionally doing that. He almost looks angry but I can tell he’s not haha

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    Coming back to this thread a few hours later… Ask him out goddammit, lol. No one will hold it against you or look at you weirdly, you’ll regret not having done it.

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    Probably just someone without well calibrated facial expressions. Learned to be very stoic and show no emotions.

    Easiest way to find out would be to just ask him what he’s thinking when he looks so seriously at you, though I understand that’s probably very scary.

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      Yes I thought about it, but the weirdest for me is not smiling back at me. That’s what typically happens even with strangers, no? I happen to smile at someone I’ll never see again and they smile back, it just happens and I’m not the most social person myself… But in this case we bump into each other frequently, he will nod or say hi but smiling NEVER

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        There’s also autistic people that have completely different social responses, including not smiling when looking at someone. That doesn’t mean they don’t wanna be friendly.

        I’m not saying that’s the case here, and you always have to watch out for abnormal social responses, but if you deem someone safe to approach, talking is simply usually the best way to find out about people.

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          I’m in this boat, I just look pissed all the time and it takes a lot to get an actual smile from me. I used to try and fake it a lot but I wasn’t good at it so it made people even more uncomfortable.

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        He hasn’t hit the threshold of emotion necessarily to cause a smile response. Your threshold is so low that you smile just by looking at someone.

        Why his smile threshold is where it is can be due to many factors like culture, abuse, trauma, state of being, mental state, social conditioning, etc.

        There is a Russian saying that states “A man who smiles without reason is mad(insane).” Give him a reason to smile.

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          Haha you’re right, I just hope it’s not bc of me 😔

          I’d love to make him smile but I’m afraid I might cross a line, I really don’t understand if I’ve bothered him in that past

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            You have two options.

            Option 1: You keep overthinking and never approach him because you think he is a certain way. All downsides in a small scale.

            Option 2: You talk to him, be direct, and you get to find out who he is. Either he has no interest for whatever reason or you find a great guy. I guess he could secretly be a serial killer or like fights dogs, but finding that out is just part of what makes dating fun.

            Let me let you in on an open secret, girls have a far higher success rate approaching guys than the other way around. So if he, or any guy, appeals to you just fucking approach him and be direct. Eye contact and giving looks aren’t signs that tell a guy a girl is interested. We are conditioned to believe a girl being nice is just a girl being nice and to ignore anything but the most obvious and direct indications of romantic interest. Seriously, just walk up to a dude and say “I think you’re cute/attractive, want to go out sometime?” Very high chance of success if he is single and you aren’t a 2 that just crawled out of a swamp trying for a 10.

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        Is he staring at you or just in your general direction. Sometimes I’ll just look in a direction and let my mind wander - eyes are open but not seeing anything because I’m in my head. And people who don’t smile can have a variety of reasons to do so.

        Best thing you can do is ignore it and not dwell. Otherwise, just ask him. He knows best. “Hey, I saw you staring off into the distance, anything on your mind?” or ask him what kind of things he thinks are funny, if anything funny happened to him lately, maybe prefix it with something that you saw or happened to you that you found funny. “I watched COMEDIAN last night. They’re my favorite. Do you watch comedy?” or something else.

        I just wouldn’t be too direct about him not laughing or smiling. It may come off as “smile more princess” and could piss him off - I know it would piss me off. But asking me about stuff that I like and am interested in can get a smile on my face. It could on him too.

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        Nah, it can happen. I tend to look rather gloomy, so I need to remind myself to smile when looking at my wife, otherwise she’ll think I’m angry with her when I’m just thinking about stuff.

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      I would but I just don’t understand if he’d be interested at all…

      And I’m sucking at life for now, so no maybe I wouldn’t haha

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        You don’t need to understand before you ask. That’s why you ask. To find out.

        When I was younger I used to waste a lot of time thinking and wondering about people instead of just making moves. And so I didn’t go out with people, I didn’t get to do a lot of stuff.

        Now I just ask people. Sometimes there’s rejection, but that’s okay. Sometimes there’s success, too.

        (Written from the perspective of a man. Women are often held to different standards, and some people may take offense to a woman acting independently. Personally, I think those people stink, and you probably don’t want to be involved in someone who’s going to be mad about you using your agency anyway.)

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    I’m told I’ve got an intense look in my eyes, turns out a lot of people at work were intimidated. But truth is it’s just a symptom of my Neurodivergence, there’s not really any thought behind it. In my case it’s likely when I hyperfocus on whatever topic we’re discussing.

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    Honestly that can be very difficult to answer from just a description like this - it goes a whole lot into other body language as well, varying person to person and with the context.

    One way of figuring this out is observing how he behaves with other people or when not interacting with you. This one I’ve applied when trying to figure people out - for instance women who’re exceedingly friendly.

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      Beware that the direction of the difference isn’t necessarily an indicator of how they feel about you. I’ve had this experience with my partner before we got to know each other. She acted extremely friendly towards everyone except me and I later learned that it was because she had a crush on me and was trying to hide it.

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      He looks pretty confident and outgoing actually… He seems down to earth and nice, but sort of proud, in the way he moves and walks or how he behaves (from what I’ve seen from a distance, so just body language and his posture…)

      And he’s not afraid to raise his voice, I always notice this cause I’m very quiet myself.

      Anyway, I still don’t know how to interpret his behaviour with me

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        Well, it usually means there’s something that makes you stand out to him compared to other people

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    You can call it out.

    If he’s a masculine man, something along the lines of “Bro you’re staring into my soul. You trying to see my essence or something?” That will confuse him because now he’ll assume strong eye contact means spirituality.

    If he doesn’t respond, take a picture of him to see if he has a reflection because there’s a chance he’s a vampire trying to steal your essence.

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    You just described me. What do you want to know? By itself none of this has meaning to me.

    If he is abstracted like me. Just be direct and ask anything. I am very serious and professional. I have certain rules like “never shit in your own back yard.” In other words, never have a work relationship. So in a work environment, I view everyone like my siblings. I also never pry or do anything to make another person uncomfortable. If you talk, I’ll respond in kind. If you’re quiet, so am I. If you intersect some curiosity of mine, I will explore it. I am driven by curiosity and exploration not relationships although relationships can be a curiosity in many ways. My curiosity about loyalty, and empathy are key to relationships and maintaining them.

    There are many types of functional thought that drive people. There are some that all of us struggle to understand; the ones that are most different from our own. Be careful about assuming most or all others are like your own

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      I want to know what he thinks of me. For example, last time he noticed me looking at him and held eye contact for a while, serious as usual, and slightly nodded at me.

      Was he bothered by me looking at him? Was it neutral/confused?! And if I ever wanted to make a move, should I? I wish I was able to read him just a lil bit more.

      He does turn to look at me too when I’m around but maybe he thinks I’m weird haha

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        I do not place meaning on anything like looking at a person. Trying to read into what I am observing or what I see is not going to get you any correct assumptions.

        Getting my attention is quite easy – just say anything I can reciprocate in kind. It can be as simple as “hey, we should get a coffee together some time.” That avoids any commitments or awkwardness; it serves the ball into his court in a friendly neutral way.

        I do not think of people in terms of slut. In fact, I view conservativeness as synonymous with ignorance. However, I am not judgmental at all like what you likely imagine. I have strong character ethics, but people are not static at all in my mind. People are statistics in my mental picture of the world. You are a collection of all the encounters I have had with you. In this realm of thought, you can change and so can I. I am very aware of both positive and negative potential, but internally I want to see the best in you and choose to assume so. In other words, I reserve judgement in most cases. My exceptions are dishonesty and violations of loyalty/trust. I do not let these things escape my notice, because I am most susceptible to harm from people that exhibit these behaviors.

        I value equality, boldness, independent thinking, passion, and depth of self awareness. If you want attention and dress in a way that gets it, I am impressed by your perceptive awareness and objective actions. That does not mean I will pursue you. It actually means I will observe your objectives and actions with curiosity about your awareness, objective goals, and how well you execute them. I will also potentially respect you for that depth, though you are unlikely to hear such a thing directly from me. When I hear some women talking about how someone else is a slut, I hear a bunch of insecure people that are jealous about a person that has more objective self awareness and the confidence to execute upon it instead of timidly molding themselves into a meaningless cultural ritual. I’m weird like that.

        Don’t assume anyone is like me. This just serves as an example of how different someone’s perspective can be. There are many someone’s out in the wild that are a good match for anyone that goes looking hard enough. The place you go looking is very important as that will center your relationship. The best place to go looking is to volunteer within your community at places like food banks or soup kitchens. These places will change you and put you in contact with good people.

        In terms of people and normalcy remember this: normal people do not exist. The concept is based on a set of assumptions you have yet to learn to question. If you try to name who you define as truly normal, you will not be able to do so with the depth required to define what normal is because normal is an idealized fantasy that only exists around people we do not know well enough yet.

        We are all a mess. The hard part is understanding the scope of different messes that can and do exist. We tend to think our mess is unique and the fact that others appear to have our particular mess sorted must mean our messiness is unique. In reality there are dozens of types of messes. Each one has a polar weakness while having other kinds of messes under control to various degrees. Some messes are rather rare and others are more common. This is all largely within neurotypical scope. If one’s mess causes real harm and dysfunction then they may need a little bit of help doing the figurative house cleaning, and there is nothing wrong with that. Learning about messes is important for healthy function.

        Life is messy, so try not to put too much impetuous on initially exploring someone else’s mess and be open to exploring and engaging with any and everyone. There is a whole lot more out there if one is open to exploring. With that knowledge exploration includes an insulating layer of confidence. If someone is uninterested in exploration with you, so what, their mess was probably a dump anyways. There are lots of dumps, and even some that act as camouflage for gold mines.

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    Maybe he’s a psychopath and isn’t aware you are not an NPC and are able to interpret his gaze.

    Does he show emotions?

    If you don’t think he’s a psychopath / sociopath here’s a list how I’d interpret it:

    • He’s interested in you
    • he finds you pleasant to look at
    • if the looking at you occurs in a school class scenario and you are situated near a window he might be “mind idling” and looking outside the window past you (I’m not sure about this hypothesis)
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      Haha no, he’s not a psycho!

      I’m sure he looks at me cause we do interact sometimes, but the problem is I’m obviously attracted to him, I’m pretty sure it shows and he knows cause I turn red and get nervous. I’m afraid he thinks I’m weird and maybe looks at me cause “oh here’s the weird girl who’s crushing on me” and I don’t want to be creepy

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        Man, I really hope there’s a woman that thinks about me like this, and I’m just too stupid to realize.

        Ask if he wants to grab a coffee. Maybe he’s just oblivious.

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        I’d say if you make move don’t try to send signals and be more direct if you want a result

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        Just a note, 8% of men are colourblind. I have often been told that someone is blushing but can’t tell at all.

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    It’s possible he may be in the same situation you are—trying to figure you out.

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    Hey there, glad you’ve found this community!

    Make sure to read the rules in the sidebar and keep in mind that the title of your post should contain the actual question being asked.

    /Ice