Imagine how bad it would be if Americans didn’t have guns to defend themselves.
UK isn’t included for some reason, but in 2020 it was 1.00.
Whoo!! Better than Latvia!
If you can make it here you ca…. Oh someone killed you…
If I can make it here I ca…
“Surely not!” And then with a heavy sigh, I remembered Baltimore.
Louisianians be like “Chicago tho amirite”
What’s the deal with Louisiana?
Corruption, poor education, overpowered oil/gas lobby, for-profit prison system that encourages recidivism
And that’s just scratching the surface
outside of NO, the region is reletively low on education, poverty ridden and low opportunity. its the trio that makes high homicide rate.
reletively low on education
You don’t say
Oh there’s plenty of people killing each other in the city too.
Wasn’t that where true detective season 1 was based in? Says all you need to know.
Hot and humid all the time.
I remember reading something while ago that did link high temperatures with higher rates of things like violence. Essentially, being hot all the damn time makes everyone’s baseline level of irritability higher and so things escalate more often. Seems a bit counter-intuitive though if we all came from Africa so I’m not sure how true it ultimately is.
In Europe the stereotype is definitely that “blood gets warmer” the more south you go. It certainly holds a bit of truth in my experience, the attitudes in Marseille or Rome are much more spicy than in Berlin, Amsterdam etc.
Get killed… Louisiana fast
Think 15 milly
There’s some bad boujee downindatbayou.
That’d be the French influence
What’s up with Liechtenstein? That’s five people and a fortune, how are they competing with the US?
Pretty sure the amount they’re listed as having on the graph is equivalent to one single homicide, due to their low population.
Exactly. Extremely small population and short duration (just one year’s data) means even a small number of murders in a given year will easily bump it up.
Probably true, yes. Death by Hilti!
Hmm. Pennsylvania. I’m going to go out on a limb and say Philly.
What’s up in the baltic?
The leading cause of homicide in the Baltic countries is alcohol. What is interesting is that the victims are usually family members and friends, because you drink at the same table and when you argue, you get angry and it ends badly. It is rare that a person is killed without a connection to the killer, and if it does happen, it makes the national headlines.
During the multiple occupations of the Baltic countries, alcohol was used to control the population. The tsar used it, Stalin used it and now Putin uses it. Alcohol helps to escape from reality and provides comfort. It will take time to overcome the alcoholic generations, measures are being taken to help solve the problem, but you can’t change a country where for more than a hundred years alcoholism was the norm.
I’d just like to interject and say we cause our own alcoholism, thank you very much. No help from our “friend” in the east needed.
Really? wildly waves hands at history
You gotta be extremely ignorant of even basic history to not see why.
Maybe you’re right. I know very little about the history of the baltics, it never came up even once at school. Also news coverage about it is lackluster at best.
Do you have any specific events/timeperiods I should look into?
Try looking up the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany. Baltic countries were doing great* before that shit.
*Well, pretty good and a place like Riga was flourishing
Idk, maybe the collapse of Yugoslavia? Perhaps the Ottoman rule and aftermath. Different religions tied to different cultures as a deviding factor seem to stand out to meEdit: I can’t read apparently, disregard my comment.
The Baltics and Balkan are two different places fyi.
The Baltics have nothing to do with Yugoslavia or the Ottoman Empire. This surprised me too and I have no ready explanation.
What’s the reason for excluding so many european countries in this graphic?
As with all EU policy, the purpose is to make the USA look bad. This is the only reason Russia is not even in the EFTA or the EU.
I have insider information that powers are play are trying to engineer a way to kick out Latvia to make the statistics more embarrassing to you.
PS: UK 1.48, Switserland Not a country, Russia 6.8, Belarus 2.32, Ukraine 3.84 pre-war, Moldavia 2.27 USA 6.38
I don’t think adding Russia will make the difference you think it will, since it’s barely more violent than the US.
The UK would be 1.00 on this chart - source
I used wikipedia’s data that is sourced from UNODC and is apparently for 2021. For states the size of the UK it doesn’t really matter, fluctuations are small. Any given year the US will have ~6 times the homicide rate of the UK.
Whenever you see a map with data about most European countries but not the UK, it’s probably Eurostat. After Brexit they stopped sharing their data.
Pretty sure the UK is no longer part of Europe. The greyed out countries aren’t part of Europe, so why would they be included?
The UK is part of Europe, it just isn’t part of the EU.
I mean, they would certainly like to be again.
The UK not being included makes me think that these are only EU member countries? I don’t know for sure though.
Switzerland is included though. I’m thinking it’s just data availability.
It literally says Eurostat in the bottom right
Eurostat (European Statistical Office; DG ESTAT) is a Directorate-General of the European Commission (…). Eurostat’s main responsibilities are to provide statistical information to the institutions of the European Union (EU) and to promote the harmonisation of statistical methods across its member states and candidates for accession as well as EFTA countries.
It looks like their source was the Eurostat Data Browser. Maybe these are just the countries it has data for?
so many
Two countries are being left out. Is two a high number to you?
UK, Switserland, Russia, Belarus, Ukraine, Moldavia.
Cyprus is included for some reason.
Which two of the above were you referring to?
The UK left the EU, and since when the hell was Russia part of it!?
Title says Europe, not EU.
and Bosnia and Herzegovina
The numbers for Russia and Ukraine would be quite bad at the moment, me thinks.
Isn’t the aim of the game to make US look bad?
The reason the US looks bad is because the US is bad. You don’t need to aim very high… I mean, you don’t need to aim at all, or put any effort into it. Just let the US be the US and it already does all the looking bad for you.
The US does look bad. There is no make involved. The US homocide / gun deaths numbers are en par to some failed states or those with civil or actual war.
Your argument would be illustrated if this post included europe, as the title claimed it would.
Amazing, huh, how comparing the US to other modern civilised countries makes the US look bad?
I wonder what that means…
Ok, so the US is only much worse than the majority of EU countries.
That better?
seems to be some non-eu countries…
Yet switserland is colored in
hence SOME
No data available is what I assumed.
Alabama: “We aren’t Mississippi!”
Guess they can include a few others too.
Whoooo Rheinland-Pfalz! Lesgoooo!
Hmm Mord means murder though, not homicide, that would be Totschlag. Also there is a note in the sidebox that the graphs include attempted murders.
The German equivalent to Alabama is nearly as bad as the original ;-)
