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Summary
Michigan farmer Rebecca Carlson, a longtime Trump supporter, faces bankruptcy as Trump’s funding freezes stall a $400,000 USDA grant for hiring temporary workers.
Carlson, who hoped Trump’s second term would revive her struggling cherry farm, already spent $200,000 preparing for labor under the H-2A visa program.
With funding halted, she risks losing $200,000 more and can’t move forward with critical hires.
Trump’s new tariffs and immigration crackdowns threaten agriculture costs and labor availability, leaving farmers uncertain and frustrated with unmet promises.
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MAGA, by hiring foreign people because as she says, “The American worker doesn’t like labor, they don’t like to do laborious jobs”.
400k for 10 workers. How much of that do they make? Why isn’t she working hard? Let her farm go under, she’s a welfare queen. What a dumb cunt.
Who could have seen this coming, except for EVERYONE! Lose your farm, get fucked and don’t vote for a fascist next time.
Hope she loses everything because somebody this dumb isn’t ever gonna learn the lesson
Whatever she loses, it will be the libs fault.
There has been so many stories of Trump over the year’s fucking over small businesses, he requests a custom piece, they spend weeks/months making it. He never pays.
I want to say I can’t believe people are this dumb. People are this dumb.
Yet to many of this followers these stories are all just bullshit lefty propaganda to smear the name of their great leader. They aren’t completely dumb they just have been brainwashed to only believe certain people and certain news organizations.
“I’ll admit to you, I bleed Republican. (…) Her farm had been awarded a grant worth $400,000 through the U.S. Department of Agriculture (…) Carlson was planning to use her USDA grant money to hire 10 temporary workers from Guatemala to help with this year’s harvest.”
The sheer amount of stupidity is crazy. The same people that were crying that everything bad was the fault of Biden actually had they farm working thanks to Biden.
Will they realize at some point ?
I thought you are going to mention that she’s receiving an enormous amount of money from the government, even though she’s Republican.
I can forgive someone for now knowing who specifically enacted some bill or something, but being simultaneously against supporting people with government handouts while relying on $400K from the government to survive? Wtf.
Trump doesn’t care about small businesses? But how???
I hope she faces bankruptcy. If you are too stupid to understand the basics of economy then you should be a director of a company.
They are dumbasses who deserve everything they encounter.
Fuck them.
Despite all this, we all know damn well that she will vote republican again. She’ll vote for whatever scum trump endorses. These people never learn.
brave of you to assume there will be another election.
Those immigrant workers were stealing valuable and very in-demand American fruit and vegetable picking jobs. Surely now she can hire from the huge line of American workers desperate to do this job. /s
So let me get this straight: she had everything planned and set up under the policies of the Biden administration, everything was working fine and a large part of the plan were immigrant workers. So naturally she voted for Trump. I struggle to empathize, tbh.
Struggle to empathize? I’m reading this with glee.
In Dutch we have a saying: “Wie zijn billen brand moet op de blaren zitten” ->( if you burn your asscheeks, you have to sit on the blisters). It means that if you do something stupid, you have to suffer the consequences
In the english speaking world, we say, fuck around and find out. I feel sorry for people like this… until i realise this is literally what they voted for. Suck shit arsewipes.
I like that
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It’s only half-topical, but let me say one thing: farmers are romanticised waaay too much in my opinion. Yes, they usually have a more precarious business, and agriculture as such is, of course, very much the foundation of our societies and very lives.
But don’t be blinded by the image of homesteading and such - most farmers are basically just business owners, with their class interests often removing them from a large part of the population. Many of the seasonal workers for example have shit pay on top of shit conditions, and they are notoriously overrepresented with some kind of “rurally wholesome” image, when they can be just as much business assholes, that mainly own a piece of land and the machinery necessary to use it for agriculture.
This will only get worse, because bankruptcy like this has one main effect: consolidation, even more farmland operated by big business, even though I personally think small business like this one is clearly already not as good as people tend to make it out as.
People romanticize farming because it was the basis of society and its economy 100 years ago. Agriculture was key to human survival for millenia before that.
In our increasingly tech driven lives, there’s something pure about your work being dedicated to cultivating the earth and bringing sustenance to people.
But there are modern US farm owners that harken the image of plantation owners during America’s chattel slavery era. Exploiting undocumented workers with undignified working conditions and paying them insufficiently in exchange for irreversibly wearing down their bodies.
Agreed, and to add to this, I grew up in farmland and have never met a broke farmer. These folks are typically quite wealthy thanks to massive government subsidies. Huge modern home, brand new cars, plenty of toys like ATVs. They’re not living the same life as the standard working class.
The fundamental weakness of Western Civilization is empathy, after all…
Why do you say that?
Its a musk quote. Pretty sure others have said it before him though.
Ahh, I didn’t know.
Terrifying lol
Lol
Do you want to hate yourself both literally and philosophically? Seek out the news coverage from your closest Sinclair affiliate. There’s a good chance this is more attributable to the fall of the fourth estate than any sort of ignorance or stupidity. A lot of these people get their news from the local broadcast. And when Sinclair controls all of those they cannot help but be uninformed.
This is actually a chance for us to reach out to them pointing out the failure of the media they relied to be informed with. Or we could choose to not build allies and coalitions and just laugh at them. For things that we ourselves could easily fall victim to
they cannot help but be uninformed.
Bullshit. They’ve had way too long to figure out that reality doesn’t match up with the news they’re getting. It’s just easier to not question it
Their reality is legitimately different from your own. And as long as you refuse to acknowledge that. You will just push them to cling to their lies as much as you are clinging to your own.
By virtue of simply being here both of us are not typical or average. A lot of typical average people still don’t use the internet and don’t even rely much on cable. When everything around them tells them that reality is one particular way. And in general it doesn’t often negatively impact them they’ll believe it. Now when the cognitive dissonance is really hitting is the best time to break them from it.
I lived in the rust belt for over a decade and have spent the vast majority of my life in a very conservative district. I literally know farmers personally. I promise you I know what life is like for many of these people. It’s nice to think that we could push or pull them but they’re as willfully deluded as it gets. The number of people I know that could barely afford gas to get to work and then continue to vote Republican in deep red districts for decades as they stripped them of any kind of benefit is insane. There is no reaching out to them they already rejected reality. I’ve had so many conversations with individuals about politics in these areas and you can see them rejecting reality when you point out examples from their real life. They can help being uninformed and choose every day not to. They know the politicians they voted for took they’re benefits and they’re going to vote for them again because that’s easier than facing the reality that they made their own bed. Trying to reach out to them is why the Dems are pushing right and trying to coax Republicans to their side and the willful indoctrination is why that has not, and never will, work. These are proudly ignorant people
A lot of these people get their news from the local broadcast. And when Sinclair controls all of those they cannot help but be uninformed.
Lived in a rural area, cannot confirm.
I’ve lived in a rural area and can confirm. Not all rural areas are in the thrall of propagandists like Sinclair. However far too many are. I know of at least three or four different markets that from personal experience don’t have any news other than Sinclair’s. And I know how much I have to struggle to keep family and friends there informed.
You and I generally agree on most things. And I have a high enough opinion of you that I think that you can recognize and acknowledge that your experience while valid. May not be universal. Also none of this absolves in from their role in any of this. But the best way for us to reach them is with understanding and not accusation here. We’ve got Decades of evidence that contemplation and ridicule is only going to make it worse.
Man, where I lived, the most basic television package had multiple non-conservative news channels, and people always tuned into Fox anyway. They didn’t turn on the radio and tune into nerd shit which was available like NPR, they tuned into Rush Limbaugh screaming about how Muslims were treated with kid gloves in this country (in the mid-2000s, no fucking less).
At some point, you have to accept that these people are not choosing conservative news sources because they don’t have alternatives; they’re choosing conservative news sources because they like what they’re listening to, and because they dislike hearing the opposite.
We’ve got Decades of evidence that contemplation and ridicule is only going to make it worse.
What ridicule? Fuck, man, conservatives have been given nothing in this country but asspats and ‘agree to disagree’ for as long as I’ve been alive. “T-the mean liberals made fun of people like me on a liberal show…” as all the liberal talking-heads and community members gather 'round and tell them how fucking valid and wholesome they are doesn’t mean jack fucking shit.
Humiliation and isolation is the only weapon that works against fascists, other than violence. We learned that in the 60s and 70s, and then got told otherwise by Very Important People in the 80s, looking for reconciliation with fascist cunts in order to share in the power during a brief revival of right-wing power - which then turned that brief revival into an enduring trend.
The Nazis in Germany weren’t suppressed because the post-war order joined hands with them and told them that they were good boys and girls who just made some mistakes. The Nazis in Germany became verboten when the generation of the 1960s looked at the former generation and said, “My God, you were monsters.”
Right there. There’s your problem. For most of these people there’s only one TV package and that’s ABC, CbS, NBC, and whatever couple of quirky local UHF stations they still get. And when two if not three out of those three major network stations are owned by Sinclair. Then they get no alternatives. Plenty of places don’t get cable and tv packages. Plenty of places can only get satellite and it’s spotty at best. Even then if that is also an extreme luxury.
Plenty of places can only get satellite and it’s spotty at best. Even then if that is also an extreme luxury.
Satellite was always the expensive option where I lived, in one of the poorest regions of the country. Satellite, furthermore, covers less than 10% of households, and that includes people opting for satellite as the more expensive option in cable-accessible areas.
Nowadays, ~95% of the country has internet access - in actuality, not ‘could get it if they wanted’.
At some point you have to accept that people are choosing the information sources they want to listen to, not simply restricted by the machinations of others.
You’re still arguing past the point though. What does the internet do for most of these people that local radio and TV technically hasn’t or couldn’t?
Also possibility of access is drastically different from actually having access. Having access is also drastically different from actually using. I have friends and acquaintances that 100% unironically use their phone for phone calls only. Outside of using it as a camera some. I guarantee that their service plans all have data included.
Further, people can and often do still live without owning a computer or accessing the internet. I don’t know how. I can’t. They’ll continue to do so until all traditional broadcasting is ended. Yes the internet can replace all of that. But it hasn’t. Even then it’s a wickedly double edged sword which has led even more into even more extreme indoctrination. So it’s hardly a panacea.
Right now many of these people are struggling with the biggest case of cognitive dissonance they’ve ever had. It’s the perfect time to strike. And plant the concept that they’re being lied to, by all their local broadcasters. The evidence is there, they’re seeing it. We could talk to them about it like adults. Or we could accuse them of things they aren’t doing. Gloat and ridicule them for internet points. Causing them to retreat and double down, being just as bad as they are. Letting the oligarchs continue to divide us and win.
Nope, it’s a choice to uninformed. Stop making excuse for dumb asses.
Plenty of people choose to actually be informed on actual policy, and use critical thinking to figure out what it means for society.
They’re racist, anti intellectuals who choose to be fed bullshit cos it’s fits with their poisonous, dumb ass racist ideology of “immigrant bad”
Stop making excuses for them.
I don’t struggle to empathize. I’m downright gleeful these people are getting the instant karma they so rightfully deserve.
I hope it withers and blows away. It’s what she deserves for voting Trump.
One thing that trump is good at is making companies go bankrupt just like his casinos.
… Holy shit, this woman is fucking dumb and deserves to lose her farm.
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wantedNeeded a grant from the Government.-Needed to hire migrant workers.
-Voted for the guy saying he was going to gut federal funding programs and close the borders.
Republicans believe in I guess what you’d call individual exceptionalism, in that they always believe that these shitty awful policies are magic missiles that will only target the “bad people” and not themselves or the “good people” they know. I’ll never forget that when they were planning the Muslim ban, a person I worked with was talking about how they’re all the enemy and we should keep them out. When I pointed out that he worked with a Muslim woman, he went “oh, well, that’s different, I know her, she’s a good person” without even ruminating on it for a second. For him, the logic was obvious, the bad policy wouldn’t affect her because he knows her and knows that she’s a good person, so obviously she’d be spared the ill effects of any bad policy. That’s why instead of getting fucking pissed, these people are always confused and astonished when the bad policy they advocated for affects them. “But wait, no, I’m a good person, there must be some mistake”. No, there’s no mistake, dumbass, good or bad person never entered the equation, just in the club or out of the club.
