I’d just like to point out that this picture is particularly impressive.

You are not supposed to touch the Crown Prince in any circumstances.

Seeing him embrace Zelensky speaks volumes.

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    Just to make sure I got the right Arabic prince here, that’s the guy who ordered Khashoggi’s death, right?

    I’m not above realpolitik, if his interests actually align with supporting Ukraine I’m happy to hear it.

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      Yea, and he’s the reformist in that monarchy, pretty bleak 🤫

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    Interesting. I thought he was with putin & trump. It would be nice if they help Ukraine though.

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    Why is zelensky talking to scum like him? This fuck should never be accepted anywhere.

    Fuck MBS. This is disappointing to see. (Unless i am missing something, i haven’t been keeping track with news up to late)

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      The US turned heel on Ukraine and Zelensky needs support to beat the Nazis.

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        Thanks for the explanation. This is severely disappointing to see, but it’s a necessary evil. :/

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          Wasnt their main role as a mediator for negotiations? I think yall are overreacting a bit.

          From the mod linked AP article:

          Zelenskyy met with the kingdom’s powerful crown prince Monday evening, with the president saying they “had a detailed discussion on the steps and conditions needed to end the war and secure a reliable and lasting peace.”

          “Saudi Arabia provides a crucial platform for diplomacy, and we appreciate this,” Zelenskyy said online.

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      Why is zelensky talking to scum like him?

      Same reason he was sitting across from JD Vance and Trump to begin with. Any port in a storm.

      Fuck MBS. This is disappointing to see.

      Its a predictable response when you recognize that the Saudis are largely an extension of western hegemony in the region. I wouldn’t be surprsied if someone like Rex Tillerson or Liz Cheney brokered the meeting.

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        MBS is a butcher, he should be shunned. This is a necessary evil, but is still disappointing.

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            As i said, this is a necessary evil. That does not change reality. MBS is a brutal dictator with an iron fist over the whole middle east, and he is a murderer. I think all countries should be moving away from saudi arabia, not closer to it.

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          The region is full of butchers. MBS just happens to be a close ally to the neoconservative CIA/State Department old guard. Of course he’s going to be a touchpoint for a proxy war with their age old geopolitical enemy. Its the same reason Putin has reached out to Iran and North Korea.

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        Saudi Arabia is not exactly popular among Muslim people around the world. In particular with them embracing US influence, funding Daesh and other murderous groups and of course supporting Israel in its oppression and mass murder of Palestinians, MBS has a very bad reputation.

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            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finances_of_the_Islamic_State

            Website The Daily Beast in June 2014 accused wealthy donors in Saudi Arabia and Qatar of having funded IS in the past.[45][46] Iran and Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki have accused the governments of Saudi Arabia and Qatar of funding the group.[47][45][48] Ahead of the pro-Iraq, anti-IS conference held in Paris on 15 September 2014, France’s foreign minister acknowledged that a number of countries at the table had “very probably” financed IS’s advances.[49] According to The Atlantic, IS may have been a major part of Saudi Arabian Bandar bin Sultan’s covert-ops strategy in Syria.[50]

            See https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/06/isis-saudi-arabia-iraq-syria-bandar/373181/ for the Citation 50

            Also see https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-qa-is-saudi-arabia-funding-isis for an overview of various US internal documents where the US government itself accused Saudi Arabia of funding Daesh at least in the beginning.

            Perhaps the most powerful indication of Saudi’s financial links with ISIS can be seen in the cache of emails leaked from the office of Hillary Clinton, who was US Secretary of State from 2009 to 2013.

            The messages, published by Wikileaks, contain an unambiguous statement by her campaign chairman, John Podesta:

            “We need to use our diplomatic and more traditional intelligence assets to bring pressure on the governments of Qatar and Saudi Arabia, which are providing clandestine financial and logistic support to ISIL and other radical Sunni groups in the region.”

            This wasn’t the first time US officials had made this claim. In 2009, Wikileaks published diplomatic cables from the US State Department which spelt out the same concerns.

            “Donors in Saudi Arabia constitute the most significant source of funding to Sunni terrorist groups worldwide,” the documents said. “While the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia (KSA) takes seriously the threat of terrorism within Saudi Arabia, it has been an ongoing challenge to persuade Saudi officials to treat terrorist financing emanating from Saudi Arabia as a strategic priority …

            “More needs to be done since Saudi Arabia remains a critical financial support base for al-Qaeda, the Taliban, LeT, and other terrorist groups, including Hamas, which probably raise millions of dollars annually from Saudi sources.”

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      Oh sorry I thought everyone knew… The thing is, his country is being invaded, everything he has and every loved one he knows are fighting for their lives and survival against a brutal psychotic dictator

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      That was when they were meeting to negotiate SA not continuing to fuck Russia’s economy into the ground with a trade war on oil prices.

      Which does imply they might be convinced to do it again.

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    I can only assume Zelensky said ‘thank you.’