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    My son’s favorite shirt:

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        That’s truly amazing!

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            Omg, you did it again!

            <gasp>

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                Now the quadruple take

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        Speak for yourself. I haven’t forgotten Ceres.

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      I’ll forget Pluto together with the 200+ other dwarf planets in our solar system, thank you very much.

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        I understand the rationale for demoting Pluto, and I don’t disagree at all

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          It’s not even a demotion, it’s just reclassification. There’s no hierarchy of importance of solar system objects. People against a more accurate understanding of reality are dumb.

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            They took away Pluto’s superior status! We’re supposed to just sit back and let Pluto be relegated to the realms of the peasantry of satellites? I will fight to my dying breath to protect Pluto’s honor!

            /s

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              https://youtu.be/oQCUK1OeZGI

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          What’s more fun, demoting pluto or announcing the discovery of a new planet every week for a couple years?

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            I’ve always said those third graders have it too easy having to learn just 8 planets. Time to really put them in their place!

          • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world
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            What if we demoted pluto every few weeks as a compromise

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        You’re a monster.

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        Just need a bigger mnemonic

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      Where can I get this? Lol

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        I think my wife got it on Amazon

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    The real problem here is the nostalgia factor. A lot of people grew up having the planets ingrained into their brains with various mnemonics. Hard to say goodbye to “pizza”.

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      Mary’s Virgin Explanation Made Joseph Suspect Upstairs Neighbour

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      My Very Easy Method Just Speeds Up Naming

      …

      Naming what‽

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        Just chiming in to say nice interrobang, fellow interrobanger

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          Thanks‽

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      There was no scenario where your precious mnemonics got preserved. If Pluto was still a planet, then Ceres would be too and it would fuck them all up.

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        Mary’s Virgin Explanation Made Joseph Suspect Upstairs Neighbour’s Potent Cum

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          That’s not where Ceres goes, and you missed Eris and a few others.

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      MEin VEtter ERklärt Mir Jeden Samstag Unsere NEun PLaneten. Is a German mnemonic

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        MEin Vater ERklärt Mir Jeden SAmstag Unseren Nachthimmel

        is what I heard. Seems parents post '05 already adapted and overcame.

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        Yes, but your language is even weirder than English.

        At least English doesn’t have any words like rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz.

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          Compound words make words rather descriptive and precise though, and we German love being precise.

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            Although to be fair, you have nothing on the Māori of New Zealand. They named a hill Taumata­whakatangihanga­koauau­o­tamatea­turi­pukaka­piki­maunga­horo­nuku­pokai­whenua­ki­tana­tahu. That’s even longer than the town of Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch in Wales.

            Edit: None of them, though, come close to Ancient Greek’s lopado­temacho­selacho­galeo­kranio­leipsano­drim­hypo­trimmato­silphio­karabo­melito­katakechy­meno­kichl­epi­kossypho­phatto­perister­alektryon­opte­kephallio­kigklo­peleio­lagoio­siraio­baphe­tragano­pterygon, “a fictional dish originating from Aristophanes’ 391 B.C. comedy Assemblywomen.”

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lopado­temacho­selacho­galeo­kranio­leipsano­drim­hypo­trimmato­silphio­karabo­melito­katakechy­meno­kichl­epi­kossypho­phatto­perister­alektryon­opte­kephallio­kigklo­peleio­lagoio­siraio­baphe­tragano­pterygon

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          Beef-sticker-surveillance responsibility-shifting law
          The law which transfers the responsibility of regulating grocery stickers on beef to presumably some other state agency?

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            rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz

            Cattle marking and beef labeling supervision duties delegation law

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rinderkennzeichnungs-_und_Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz

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          No, we have “thin blue line” and somehow a long running controversy about which lives matter and which lives still matter but we shouldn’t say it because it implies you think the others don’t matter because of the thin blue lines. Humans are fucking weird, no matter the language.

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            What are you even talking about? Are you in the right thread? This is about Pluto and Star Trek and also at this point the German language.

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              Yes, I was pointing out that making fun of one language is odd when all languages are bizarre. English especially so. I don’t this is unclear.

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                Oh I see, this is more about being very, very serious rather than having fun and joking around in a meme community.

                Maybe you need to find somewhere else for that.

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        I don’t think mnemonic translates correctly into German ;p

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    What happened:

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      mr show goat

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    If Emilia is a scientist at heart and heard that Pluto was reclassified because we found many more like it, she’d probably be fascinated. Mind blown, even, that we’ve found Sedna, Ceres, Makemake, a bunch of others I’ve forgotten the name of, and a few more that just have a number.

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      On the other hand, she was just introduced to the concept of things like interstellar travel and aliens, so “someone took away one of our planets” wouldn’t have been all that far-fetched. (Especially since the dialogue in the post doesn’t actually mention Pluto. Maybe she thought it was Venus.)

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      Granted, we found Ceres, christened it a planet, and demoted it to asteroid long before we found Pluto.

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    That’s messed up.

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        Is that Bruton Gaster?

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          His name is Jazz Hands

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            Sh (Comma to the top) Dynasty

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    There’s a LOT of dwarf planets we’ve found since Pluto is what happened, basically.

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    Now I’m curious: How publicised was Pluto’s discovery in 1930? Did the public care? Would Earhart likely have learnt about it before she vanished in 1937?

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      They were basically calling it the great American scientific discovery at the time. Which is probably why some people were so loath to accept the “demotion.”

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      Well, it was definitely in a lot of newspapers: https://www.google.com/search?tbo=p&tbm=bks&q=ninth+planet+discovered&tbs=%2Cbkt%3As%2Ccdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A1+jan+1929%2Ccd_max%3A31+dec+1931&num=100

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      Angela Collier did a video about the whole fiasco from a physicists prospective which is fun https://youtu.be/TwCbMJmgShg

      Iirc she talks about how it’s kinda BS, caused public outrage, and might have harmed science communication in the mind of the public.

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    Kinda silly when ‘dwarf planet’ has planet still in the name.

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      Just change the name. Can’t be Pluto, but maybe Gimli will work.

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        Do we name asteroids after hobbits, then?

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          Give it a thousand years, then it’s classical mythology. That’s free game. That’s where we got Mars, Saturn, Jupiter etc.

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          No, but we’ve come close: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2675_Tolkien

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      If you want to include all the dwarf planets then we’ve got more than 9. Pluto was only the latest object to be called a planet and reclassified. No one complains about the others.

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        I really don’t get why that would be a problem. Personally, I would be delighted if we had more than 9 planets. “Oh no! We can’t have Pluto be a planet cuz then we’d have 5-10 more bodies that we’d have to call a planet too!” So what? Give me 15 planets; hell give me 50, that sounds so much cooler than reducing the number of bodies in the solar system people care about by 1.

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          Just because you only care about them because they’re not called planets doesn’t mean nobody else does. You are allowed to enjoy anything you want. Go learn about all the dwarf planets, asteroids, comets, and everything else!

          Planet is a useful term to describe a particular thing. We could keep adding more things to the list, but then it becomes less useful. We have multiple words for different things for a reason. A fruit isn’t a vegetable just because they both grow on plants, for example.

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      You’re right. We should call them planitos (or planitas if the dwarf planet is female)

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      Even sillier to get pissed on behalf of a giant space rock that doesn’t care what you call it.

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    Pluto is a planet and I’m tired of pretending it’s not.

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      Pluto was a planet, once. The crown jewel of the Plutonian Empire. But the Plutonians got greedy. They dug too deep in search of plutonium and awoke a terrible horror. Now all that’s left of Pluto is a cloud of asteroids and a celestial dwarf, barren and uninhabitable.

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        It’s Morty’s fault.

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        I thought he was a mouse’s pet dog.

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      The problem with Pluto being a planet is that we would also have to classify something like thousands of other objects as planets as well. That’s the whole reason it’s not classified as one anymore.

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        But if we let them take Pluto from us, where does it end? Who is going to defend Mercury and Mars when they come for those next?

        This is how we end up without a planet at all!

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          People are only mad about Pluto because it happened in their lifetime.

          Prior planets include The Sun, Ceres in 1801, Pallas in 1802, Juno in 1804, Vesta in 1807, Astraea in 1845, Hebe, Iris, and Flora in 1847, Metis in 1848, and Hygiea in 1849.

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            And all those imaginary planet Xs we’ve had, can’t forget those.

            Are we gonna have to start looking for planet Ix now?

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              Even planets don’t want to be associated with Elon’s Twitter :(

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                “It was named Ix, meaning planet who is not able to satisfactorily explain what a Twitter is, nor why it should choose to collapse on Elon Musk”

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      Correct. It is a dwarf planet.

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      Wow that’s very anti-trans of you

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        Can a planet be trans?

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          It transitioned from planet to dwarf planet. Idk i was trying to be funny but dropped the /s cause it was late.

          I’ll try better next time

          Nah fuck that yall just dumb

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            The /s would not have helped, it just came off as a slightly more science version of “well what if the kids start identifying as attack helicopters” which comes back to the hypothesis that conservatives like yourself only have one joke.

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              You real dumb if you think I’m conservative

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                Nah. You can not be a maga and still be pretty conservative. In fact look at folks like Feinstein and Blumenthal, you can be relatively high up in the Democratic party and still be ultra conservative.

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                  Buddy, you have no fucking clue who you’re talking to if you think I’m conservative. I literally told my girlfriend someone online called me conservative and she genuinely burst out laughing.

                  You are being more and more idiotic. It was a fucking dumb joke about pluto being trans. Which, pluto fucking transitioned from planet to not a planet. Get the fucking stick at your ass and go fight an actual battle somewhere.

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