It’s baffling to me how this guy is now the “haha funny weed uncle” given his criminal record.
…what criminal record? Weed charges? Drug charges as a kid? That’s concerning to you?
He was acquitted of murder. So - not guilty of murder. 30 years ago.
The sexual abuse case against him was dropped. Completely dropped by the accuser. We won’t know what happened. Maybe something did - but you can’t make baseless character accusations or assumptions. Case was dropped, that’s the end of it.
I’m not a snoop boot licker or anything, but I don’t really think he’s a bad person, given his criminal record and all.
Case was dropped, that’s the end of it.
I don’t agree with this attitude. I’m wary of branding him a rapist or sexual assaulter without any deeper research, but a dropped case is not the end of things, morally speaking, in just about any serious offense.
Okay, but is it morally right to continually pursue someone who says they are innocent and that it didn’t happen? There wasn’t sufficient evidence to prove anything? I’m not saying the woman did this for money and attention - but what if she did? Otherside of the coin. But you are right, we can’t brand him a rapist and we can’t say she wasn’t raped, the only thing you can say is that the case was dropped and he’s not being charged with rape.
Edit - I don’t like my argument. I don’t want to assume someone made up being raped, but I also don’t have any knowledge on what happened. It’s a shitty opaque situation and I hope that no one was raped and no one is lying - but I know they can’t both be true.
I don’t know anything about this case, but if we don’t know the truth, shouldn’t both parties be treated as innocent?
I’m wary of branding him a rapist or sexual assaulter…
I feel that questioning his appearance because of those accusations is exactly that.
I feel that questioning his appearance because of those accusations is exactly that.
I haven’t questioned his appearance at the games. I’m just trying not to come off as saying that the accusations are definitely false and we should completely ignore anyone who hasn’t been convicted, especially since I didn’t follow the details of the case closely when it happened.
Sorry, I somehow thought the top of this thread was you.
I now got what you were actually saying.
How about don’t brand the dude as shit and just let him live like a regular ass guy? Someone said he did something years ago, and it was withdrawn. Let it go.
Accepting the outcome of the legal system is the basis for a liveable society. If everyone just does their own vigilante justice bullshit in their head, then we can just abolish the entire system of law.
Accepting the outcome of the legal system with regards to the monopoly on force is the basis for a livable society. Personal moral judgements are not suspended by the existence of a legal system; only the violence or coercive action that would accompany in a society without an institution with a monopoly on legitimate force.
Then do the research or stfu.
If you want to speak to morality, then why are you approaching this as guilty until proven innocent?
It’s one thing if there’s a regular pattern of charges and accusations coming and getting dropped (eg Cosby, Weinstein). But this is not that?
Innocent until proven guilty is a mantra used when determining if the state can deploy violence and curtail your liberties, e.g. by physically confining you in a prison. It’s not a universally applicable rule, and isn’t what’s used in civil court, where judgements are made on balance of probabilities (i.e. if they think the evidence suggests it’s more likely that you’ve done something than that you haven’t) and isn’t what’s used in contexts other than the legal system, like when a duty of care exists - generally it wouldn’t be enough to say someone was safe to work with children if they were only probably not a paedophile.
It’s my understanding that there isn’t enough knowledge available to the public to exhonorate Snoop Dogg, and without that, he’s left looking sketchier than he was before. One dropped allegation could be nothing, or the start of a pattern, and that’s different to there being no allegations at all.
A guilty until proven innocent attitude within society is what breeds fertile ground for abusers. If you can make up whatever shit you want about someone and be believed with no evidence, then abusers will simply accuse their victims as a method of violence and control. If you want to attack abusers and not victims, you need a commitment to the truth.
Look at Depp and Heard. Near as I can tell, they’re both abusers, and they’re both dragging each other’s names through the mud because that’s how abusers do violence. They’re using public opinion as a weapon of abuse. That’s why public opinion must be made resistant to weaponisation without due cause.
Yeah and Flava Flav supporting the women’s waterpolo team after his domestic abuse charges is also pretty wild.
Snoops so hard, yeah? Like how he wears goofy costumes to all his grandkids birthday parties. People make mistakes. I don’t think holding a grudge against snoop dogg helps anyone.
Also, anyone’s welcome to show up for the Olympics. The d o double g can’t help it that the media just loves him. Have you seen the man? He’s honestly delightful. It’s hard to see everyone through the lense of every bad thing they’ve ever done.
Snoop beat that frame job
(But maybe not a SA case)
I remember a big commotion when I was a kid about Snoop Dogg and being accused of sexual assault. Did that go anywhere?
Nope. I tend to believe them though. His generation of rappers isn’t exactly known for respecting women.
That’s a pretty narrow-minded view but okay.
It’s hard to judge on a case-by-case basis when women are dissuaded from pursuing abusers in court. We simply don’t know, because we live in a rape culture, and it is a struggle to convict rapists.
We live in a rape culture?
Would you please expand?
Rape culture refers to the tendency of a society to downplay or dismiss rape, its seriousness, or accusations thereof. Think of the vile “boys being boys” or “he has such a bright future ahead of him, he just made one little mistake!” kind of justifications that still pop up from time to time in high-profile rape cases.
Even some of the allegedly “more enlightened” ones, I remember in 1992 or '93 Speech from Arrested Development rapping about women needing to make more babies for the revolution. Remaining pregnant and nurturing is the happy, dutiful way to be, if you’re a woman. That’s an archaic stance, to say the least.
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I never can decide if Snoop Dogg is an evil genius who got away with it or if he’s a great illustration that redemption can actually happen.
If the latter, we are most certainly approaching criminal justice the wrong way.
Before we talk about acquittals or dropped cases, I still feel pretty strongly that he was no angel when he was younger. Today he comes across as downright wholesome.
If the latter, we are most certainly approaching criminal justice the wrong way.
I think we have a winner. Unfortunately.
Snoop ‘nothing but love and respect for donald trump’ Dogg?
Looking at the context that seemed like he just wanted to end a feud he started by pointing a gun at an effigy of Trump in a 2017 music video
People can change. Rehabilitation should be the primary goal of incarceration. Not that he necessarily served his time, I just think that way of viewing crime/criminals is unhelpful.
Age is strongly correlated with muting the effects of Cluster B personality disorders like ASPD that are associated with violence. It’s not effective in all cases of course, as evidenced by Trump.
Yesterday I have read here that mr beast is a psychopath because „he has it in his eyes”, here another diagnosis. I see we have a full suite of experts
I love how people are memeing the Olympics so hard this year. Or maybe I’m just in different circles now.
I think it’s also largely caused by the majority of olympians being gen z for the first time (and it not being overshadowed by that one certain thing like the last olympics).
Why are you saying this like Gen Z invented the meme?
They were born in it. Molded by it.
They don’t make the memes. The memes made them.
I knew a dude when working at Amazon whos parent met because of fucking hamster dance. He was literally made by a meme.
You get a few every Olympics, but it goes harder some years than others.
Are we? I’m not really into sports so I’ve barely seen any.
Except for that Turkish shooter. I know that one.
Very fitting for a US mascot; he’s always in places you’d never expect him to be and totally got away with murder
I like to think he’s just regularly commuting between Paris and Germany for the Legal Weed. Just commuting between Saarbrucken and Paris.
When there’s the Thalys that can drop you in Amsterdam centraal? Don’t think so!
Cannabis is de-facto decriminalized in Amsterdam and the netherlands, but it’s not technically legal. They just won’t arrest you for smoking it or having small amounts.
Weed is straight up legal in Germany. Like you can get a membership to a club and smoke to your heart’s content. No “you won’t get arrested but if you sell it you’ll go to jail” thing. Also Saarbrucken is a shorter journey than Amsterdam from Paris (1 hr 50m vs 3hrs 30) by train.
But the Clubs where only allowed to start growing they supplys on 01.07.24, if they where lucky and the city not randomly decided to build a 4 squaremeter playground 50m away from them. So most of the current canabis that is around is still from illegal sources or from homegrowers and as a private person you are technical still not allowed to sell or even share it with other poeple, so if you visit me you have to bring your own.
Membership to a club? Just come to Canada. Buy top quality weed from any of our 100% legal stores and then go smoke it when and where you want!
Paris to Canada by train is too much of a hassle.
Not in Quebec, you have to be over 21, you can’t grow it in your yard, you have to buy it from shitty gov stores that aren’t allowed to tell you anything about the actual products and you can’t smoke it in most public places.
We’re lucky at least that Montreal is Montreal and we can do mostly what we want without being harassed by the pigs but our provincial government is a conservative trash pile that desperately needs to go.
Listen, I live in the UK and weed decriminalization is almost as far off as weed legalization here. I am jealous of the Germans.
I thought he quit smoking weed?
It ended up being a promo for a smokeless fire pit or some shit.
Just commuting between Saarbrucken and Paris.
Rolling down the street, smoking indo, sipping on mineral water because the Germans do not fuck around about alcohol and driving.
I was assuming he would be going by train on the TGV.
Always has been
En garde, mfers… and watch me light up this epee-sized blunt in front of y’all.
I thought he should have used the Olympic torch to blaze one
He’s doing the Lord’s work.
