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    Absolutely! This is the story the media should focussing on.

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      the story the media should focusing on

      Yet, the next twenty weeks they will pivot back to a bad debate not his performance, not his many accomplishments 1 , 2. .

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      Yeah, I understand that people are frustrated with inflation and the status quo. Shit keeps getting more expensive and everyone feels like they’re falling behind. It’s easy to blame the current leadership and say Biden isn’t doing enough.

      The problem is, Trump and Republicans literally have no solution for this and will only make things exponentially worse. I have this sinking feeling that more and more people are willing to vote for Trump just because they want something different. But to me it feels like cutting off your nose to spite your face.

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    It’s a thorough piece of opinion journalism that in 1960 would have helped end Trump’s candidacy. But then, if it was 1960 and the country actually valued journalism, Trump would have been disqualified so long ago. In 2024, it probably won’t be read by more than a handful of Trump followers, and even they will just sneer at it as confirming their biases about liberal elites.

    I’m becoming more and more cynical about November. Swing states are polling way too heavily for Trump - he’s leading in most and barely not in just a few. To me the NYT article seems obvious and impossible to dispute, but at this point we’ve fully partitioned ourselves as a country between those who can spot a con man and those who can’t. To those who can’t, we let Trump’s nihilism metastasize and it’s probably too late.

    Too much of the country is in the throes of mass delusion, thank you Rupert Murdoch, and I’m pretty sure American democracy has only a few months left to live. I’d love to see a plan, any plan, that realistically leads to a different result. And I am going to vote in November for Biden, or whoever replaces him. But I no longer believe America’s ability to do the right thing, even after it’s tried everything else (as the saying goes). Now, we’ve tried Trump and somehow are choosing the vehemently, obviously wrong thing.

    Until then, this piece is just a nice epitaph, a “we told you, you should have known” that will remind any MAGA recidivists who eventually experience leopards eating their faces after November, when Trump’s next presidency inevitably reveals itself to be an autocratic destruction of American self-rule.

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      I find it amazing how short people’s memories are.

      Did everyone in the US forget COVID-19, and all of Trump’s antics during it?

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          This is what infuriated me.

          COVID spread is exponential growth, and his early misinformation, failure of leadership, refusal to believe in the danger, and continued botched response was responsible for likely hundreds of thousands of American deaths. Certainly his followers refused to mask and were aggressively in denial even when in hospitals on ventilators. We’re at over 1.2 million deaths, and in my opinion even that attribution is conservative.

          When even a single American is killed via incompetence by our government, it’s congressional hearings and crucifixion. When we have an external force do it, like a certain event in 2001, no price is too high for retribution and deterrence. This man is responsible for 100x those American deaths? Let’s make him the most powerful human on the planet.

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        There are wayyyy too many magabrained that think covid was some kind of liberal hoax to make donnie look bad.

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          In spite of Donald Trumps own statements during the pandemic…

          And that, you know, he got hospitalized with covid.

          That practically broke the internet, and its like everyone forgot.

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      Well, the 60s didn’t have a propaganda organization solely devoted to ensuring public opinion wouldn’t turn against a criminal Republican president.

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        Much less, the global, state–sponsored social media and website propaganda presence we now enjoy.

        The only state sponsored media propaganda we had in 1960 was CIA

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      it probably won’t be read by more than a handful of Trump followers

      In actuality, most would not care, even if they believed it. They have unshakable faith that their god-emperor will be coming again to save the country from woke and put us on the path of Christian righteousness.

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      that will remind any MAGA recidivists who eventually experience leopards eating their faces

      Bold of you to assume they can read

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      If this were the 1960s neither candidate would have gotten this far and would have been shamed off the ballots before the primaries.

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    It took an investigative news team and one of the nation’s top media organizations eight years to figure that out?

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      NYT has been covering for Trump this whole time. Go watch their recent video about Project 2025. It’s the most watered down BS that tries to absolve the orange turd from being responsible for it.

      IG link

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      No. As an Opinion column, it’s essentially invalid. They can have an opinion column to reinstate the monarchy. And doubtless have.

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    The same New York Times that put up an Op ed from political expert George Clooney yesterday telling Biden to step down. Gotta get the outrage clicks from both sides I guess.

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      But he should.

      Well, except that apparently the replacement the DNC has in mind is Kamala fucking Harris. I knew it’d be too much to expect them to grow any balls.

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        I think the idea is that she is already VP, so it creates less drama than trying to shoehorn someone else in at the last moment. We already have had to accept her being one seat away from the presidency, making her the candidate is easier for voters to swallow.

        She’s no worse politically than Biden, but she isn’t ancient and fumbling the job either, so I would absolutely vote for her if she were the candidate.

        If Biden does step down, I don’t see any possibility that the DNC could replace him with anyone else that isn’t going to create extreme disunity amongst Democratic voters.

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          Harris has been an active and progressive VP. She has been better and more effective than every VP going back to Dan Quayle.

          Her only problems are charisma, and right wing propaganda. Same as Hillary.

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            I wouldn’t call right wing propaganda “her problem”, right wing propaganda is going to exist for literally any liberal that challenges the far-right.

            Why are we pretending that Kamala and Hillary were uniquely hated by the right? The entire Republican platform is a platform of hate. We cannot take their prejudices seriously because prejudice is all they will ever offer.

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              Hillary was uniquely hated though. She was a solid first lady and an OK senator and pretty good secretary of State. And the discourse around her was brain boilingly toxic. Obama was the only Democrat that experienced something similar, maybe Pelosi. Biden, Clinton, and Gore did not get that level of visceral hatred.

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        No shit.

        Biden’s mental state is a legitimate criticism but don’t expect the DNC to suddenly be anything other than center-left. Whoever would replace Biden would run with essentially the same platform.

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          Center-left? DNC? On what planet? The DNC is a right-wing liberal party, it’s no flavor of Socialist, or even Social Democrat. Perhaps when the largest alternative is the GOP, filled with fascists and far-right populists, but that doesn’t change the views of the DNC, only their context.

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            My argument still stands. No one should expect the DNC to replace Biden with someone more left leaning than Biden regardless of how you put the DNC on the political spectrum.

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          I just hoped (stupid, I know) that SOMEONE would realize that salvaging the platform is the least of their worries.

          They need someone who energizes the base. That’s how they won in 2008. That’s how they lost in 2016. And they only won in 2020 because Trump was such a tremendous fuck up and piece of shit. AND STILL ONLY BARELY.

          God damn.

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      This is likely a response to criticism about their editorial saying Biden should step aside. There wasn’t enough “Trump bad” in that one for people so they’re making their position clear.

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    Biden should use the recent President is King supreme court ruling to declare both of them unfit to run again.

    The new candidates would be roughly on a level playing field to start and hopefully it would open up a extensive conversation about that ruling.

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      Yeah I don’t think it matters too much how he does it but he really needs to test that ruling because that’s the only way it’s going to get any restrictions put on it

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        The only restrictions are going to be based on which party the president is a member of.

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        But then I would be forced to doubt that Trump is unfit to rule. It would be painful but necessary for any “information” found on the NY Post.

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      At this point, NYT finally writing this column is like Ja Rule finally telling us what to think .

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      Having continuous pieces like this make a difference. Think of how many “Biden has to step aside!” pieces have been written in the past two weeks and how much a part of the political discussion that is. The more time the media takes up shouting from the rooftops that Trump is a threat to America, the more mainstream and central the discourse becomes.

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      if they don’t publish this and just report on biden’s gaffes:

      “why is the media always talking about biden but not saying anything against the orange guy?”

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    Meanwhile, America ignores this obvious fact to instead focus on….

    “BiDeN oLd!”

    More news, as it develops.

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        And this differs from Trump how exactly?

        And Biden being the only one of the two you are allowed to talk shit about doesn’t count as an answer.

        Please, tell everyone- what about Trump makes him the better choice?

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            They never have response to this. It’s usually the easiest way to get them to stop trolling. That, or ask them who they’d run in Biden’s place that is currently running and could realistically win against Trump.

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              I’m still voting for Biden or whomever they put in but I’m super grumpy that these are our choices.

              How…?

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                I’m in that boat with ya. The “how” is simple. We have FAR too many people that sit on their asses In-between elections and they don’t participate until it’s time to vote. And in most cases it’s usually too late to create any good or lasting change.

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                  That’s not the reason, the reason is because the US electoral system is dominated by the interests of those who pour the most money into it, not the will of the people. Voting harder won’t fix it, the only thing that will is building up parallel structures and pressuring from outside, like what has happened for nearly every major improvement America has seen.

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            Trump straight up said he’d be way worse in the debate, but people were too busy complaining about Biden to listen to what Trump said. He literally said he wants Israel to go even further and finish the job! Anyone arguing to not vote for Biden because they’re concerned for Palestinians is full of shit. Full stop.

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            At its core, I think it’s basically just the Trolley Problem. Some people would rather passively support a worse situation rather than actively support a better but bad situation.

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              Those people are stupid and/or cowards.

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          Trump is not the better choice, they are equally incompetent and corrupt. You are implying people only have an issue with Biden because of age. There are a myriad of reasons why Biden isn’t liked.

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            bOtH siDeS, amirite?

            They are not equally incompetent and there are facts to prove it. But you don’t like facts, so I’ll not bother listing them. They’re out there though. It should take 30 seconds to find them.

            Aside from that- who do you suggest to replace Biden that is running and capable of winning against your boy?

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                  Run of the mill neolibs are fascist. Tolerating a little bit of fascism to prevent fascism is counterproductive, that’s how we ended up with 2 pieces of shit being the only option on the ballot

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                Yeah bud, I think my comment history will show that’s a blatant lie. However, YOUR history is shows that you really shouldn’t be accusing the kettle here.

                I’m near certain that most people know why you’re here and what you’re up to. Thais why your ratio is garbage every time you say something- while on a platform that learns VERY far left.

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      Is the broken clock analogy the new “we’re now in the find out phase” of the comment sections?

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      FUCK NYT

      Is there a reason other than them criticizing Biden?

      Edit:

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_election_endorsements_made_by_The_New_York_Times

      They’ve endorsed a Dem every election back to 1956…

      But pointing out the obvious that 81 is old and Biden acts his age and suddenly it’s all “FUCK NYT” because moderates act just like trumpets.

      100% loyalty is permanently required, anything less and they never knew ya.

      Fucking cultists really want to make the Dem party just like the Republican.

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          What?

          I asked one question, which is literally “why”…

          Is there a reason other than them criticizing Biden?

          Which hasn’t gotten any response…

          Then I went back in edited in how long and steadfast the NYT’s endorsement of Dems have been.

          And commented on how concerning it was that all it took was recognizing reality for Biden supporters to start acting like trump supporters.

          It’s bad enough when 1 of 2 parties act like that. When they both do were all fucked.

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    Remember folks — this is an opinion piece, it is not news.

    The reason you may hear more news about Biden being unfit for office than Trump being unfit is in large part because many Dems are calling for Biden to step aside, and it is newsworthy that a candidate faces calls from his own party.

    The GOP is not widely calling for Trump to step down.