It ain’t just that, it’s making them have the fight.

Not sure how many people remember Project Pat, but:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLbYMfbBB1w

We used to sing it except “ain’t going back to mast” because Captain’s Mast was the less formal version of Court Martial. At a mast, the Captain could do whatever they wanted and no one higher up even heard about it.

You had to agree to Mast, if you didn’t they’d have to take you to court martial where people outside the chain of command got to hear what’s going on. The downside is punishment could be much worse.

Some of my guys were getting fucked, so I told everyone to refuse Captain’s Mast, and the command backed down because it was obvious they weren’t the problem. But our chain of command showed they didn’t give a fuck.

Word spread that a 1/3 of my division got out of demotions, and it was all anyone would talk about.

It’s why I don’t take the idea of the American military being used against Americans very seriously. The vast majority are just there because they have no other options. They hate the military more than most pascifists do. So it doesn’t take much for shit to break down.

That’s not even getting into how much of the military are minorities, immigrants, or even non-citizens. They’re not gonna do what trump wants them to.

There’s always a chance…

Up to the point of Terminator robot soldiers, then we’re fucked.

By the time we get those, we need to have our shit sorted out.

Power is where people believe it is.

No one really “controls” a military or government, at every step of the chain people can disagree. And when they do, it doesn’t always shake out the way people expect.

I was threatened with a mutinity charge in the Navy, but I stood by my position and like five people didn’t get demoted over some bullshit that wasn’t their fault.

If I’d have backed down, they’d have been fucked because they were the fall guys.

If trump tries to sic the US government on citizens or blue states, don’t expect everyone to just follow orders, even if the people at the very top do. They’re still the ones sitting at desks.

Look at South Korea, president tried to pull a coup and basically everyone told him to fuck off. Didn’t matter that he was in charge of the military and government

so many people would believe otherwise

Just like they did four years ago when the same thing happened…

There’s just nothing to gain from intentional fuckery tho, and a very plausible reason.

Even if they “unfollowed” it might not have stuck and if they refreshed it still would have been there.

Things changing on the GUI but not where it actually matters is literally the issue here…

So I 100% believe a bunch of people experienced what you’re saying.

They’re just confusing client side GUI with server side database.

Comfort.

Gen 1 fights fascism.

Gen 2 enjoys society and understands how much worse it can be.

Gen 3 grows up with all the advantages and privilege, takes it for granted, and burns it down so they don’t have to pay for Gen 4 to have it.

• that is when both sides sell out to the oligarchs

Gen 4 is fucked and desperate, and either disengage politically or go with the party that’s the best liars.

• that is where we are now.

What comes next?

If we’re lucky at the DNC chair election they see the error of their ways, the neoliberals lose their death grip on the party, and shit gets better surprisingly fast. If we’re lucky we came close enough to the ground that we go to Gen 2.

If we’re not, the left most option sides with the oligarchs over voters, and it’s time to affix your own oxygen mask before helping your neighbor. We’re back at Gen 1, and it might take a while

Obviously, fuck Meta, but…

“People were not made to automatically follow any of the official Facebook or Instagram accounts for the President, Vice President or First Lady,” he wrote on Threads. “Those accounts are managed by the White House so with a new administration, the content on those Pages changes.

“This is the same procedure we followed during the last presidential transition. It may take some time for follow and unfollow requests to go through as these accounts change hands.”

That sounds like a plausible explanation. If you followed when Biden was president, that same account is now Trump’s.

Which means there are likely millions of users either unfollowing or following the account since Monday. I’d be surprised if anyone wanted to hear from both Biden and now trump.

I couldn’t find an actual article, but here’s people complaining about Instagram doing the same thing four years ago:

Old.reddit.com/r/Instagram/comments/l1y2je/unfollowed_and_blocked_the_white_house_account/

Hell, 4 years ago Biden was bitching that Twitter didn’t do this

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/22/politics/biden-twitter-white-house-accounts/index.html

He’s just shitting these out and no agency knows what the fuck is going on.

Like, I laughed that he declared every human a woman, but I’m really starting to think someone is just asking a chatbot to write an executive order that does _____. And then they’re not even reading them first.

They dont understand their daily life is subsidized by the federal government, and that cutting those programs means their share of the costs go up.

The majority of red states aren’t self sustainable.

If blue states said fuck it and stopped sending the Fed money, it would go broke along with every red state except Texas I think. But they need federal funding every year for climate disasters

“Luigi” was the response to “how do we fight fascism”…

That is the context you were avoiding by not linking.

This isn’t an argument, I’m trying to explain something to you.

Yeah, once I noticed the post title it made sense why you removed the comments.

But even without that:

But mods can be stricter than the instance.

It’s ridiculous that people leap to the “.world is full of pro-corprate fascists” because they disagree with a single mod.

There’s more than few instances I dont like, so I’ve blocked them and never see them. I don’t know why people with the axe to grind against .world dont do the same thing.

Edgy kids just want to find the line and then constantly put their toes over it and claim nothing is allowed because they personally crossed a line.

So…

Members of the government are seizing private companies for themselves?

Isn’t that why we can’t have universal healthcare or free education?

Because the slippery slope would lead to the government seizing private property?

Why are we skipping the good parts?

It makes perfect sense, wealthy capitalists are almost always pro fascism…

That’s why when wealthy capitalists take over the left most option, it leads to outright fascism.

What just happened isn’t unique to America, it happens all the fucking time all over the planet, for all of recorded history.

When the left most option is still wealthy oligarchs, they don’t get enough votes letting the rightwing option seize power, because their voters have more blind loyalty and are more willing to believe their party’s lies.

Devils advocate:

you may use physical force upon another person when and to the extent you reasonably believe such to be necessary to defend yourself or a third person from what you reasonably believe to be the use or imminent use of unlawful physical force by such other person.

Luigi can claim he believes it’s unlawful…

It doesn’t have to actually be unlawful.

His lawyers can start talking about why it’s lawful for insurance companies to decline claims based onnshitty AI.

Opening up a huge can of worms because records disclosed in this can be used for civil trials later…

Especially class actions for people the AI denied wrongly.

Like, dude allegedly executed a CEO in broad daylight, why wouldn’t he want to try and steer this court case towards that stuff?

No idea why you’re being so vague…

This?

https://lemmy.world/comment/14592254

Looks like a mod replied and then deleted so not sure what they said.

But yeah, those comments don’t seem to violate .world’s TOS, and I have no idea why a mod would have deleted them. But mods can be stricter than the instance.

I’m not sure why you’re blaming the whole instance for what one mod is doing.

Edit:

The thread title is “how to fight fascism” which is important context I missed earlier.

So yeah, the first comment saying just “Luigi” could very easily be considered a call to violence. Then the next one say “did nothing wrong” also makes sense to remove.

It’s actually not always wrong…

Legally speaking:

In most countries, it is lawful for a citizen to repel violence with violence to protect someone’s life or destruction of property.[3]

The scope of self-defense varies; some jurisdictions have a duty to retreat rule that disallows this defense if it was safe to flee from potential violence. In some jurisdictions, the castle doctrine allows the use of deadly force in self-defense against an intruder in one’s home. Other jurisdictions have stand-your-ground laws that allow use of deadly force in self-defense in a vehicle or in public, without a duty to retreat.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justifiable_homicide

Not saying it’s perfect, but it’s likely the defense he’ll use if not denying he pulled the trigger.

They’d just have to convince a jury that denying healthcare which causes injury and death to a shit ton of Americans is a use of imment force and this action would have lessened it.

If they show that after the shooting less claims were denied…

It probably won’t work, but that’s the path to jury nullification without saying jury nullification is our defense.

Under the New York Penal Law Article 35, you may use physical force upon another person when and to the extent you reasonably believe such to be necessary to defend yourself or a third person from what you reasonably believe to be the use or imminent use of unlawful physical force by such other person.

Tilem & Associates points out in an article that the term “reasonably” is used twice in the law mentioned above. Both your belief that force is being used or about to be used and your belief that your use of physical force is necessary to stop the attack must be reasonable under the circumstances if you want to successfully use the defense of justification.

https://documentedny.com/2023/07/27/new-york-self-defense-laws-stand-your-ground/

It’s a sound legal defense, and as far as I know it’s his only option.

But as always: IANAL

A comment was removed that simply said “Luigi did nothing wrong”, which aligns with your first example. The reason given was “wrongful advocacy”, which suggests having a positive opinion of Luigi is against TOS.

Waaaay back when it happened (feels like months but wasn’t it just a few weeks?) there was a mod who didn’t understand things and removed some comments they shouldn’t. What I remember blowing up was removal of a comment just mentioning jury nullification was a thing. The mod thought because you’d get removed from a jury for talking about it, it was against US law to talk about it.

Which is incredibly ignorant.

Going off memory tho admins stepped in quickly and clarified what was ok.

So if you want to talk about a past issue and how it was resolved, that’s fine.

But it’s a different conversation than what we’re having, which is about post admin clarification

Nope.

It’s just when people say we should murder people, it’s against the terms of service, so the comment gets removed.

So you can say pretty much anywhere:

Insurance is a scam and I don’t give a fuck a CEO was murdered

Even:

I hope jury nullification happens for Lugi and anyone else in his position.

But you can’t say:

We should murder more CEOs

It’s honestly not that complicated, but lots of people seem to be confused.

Green energy can ony replace fossil if it’s inherently cheaper

But fossil fuels are “cheaper” with a shit ton of subsidies…

To get cheaper gas, everyone pays taxes, regardless of if you still buy gas or not.

If we end those subsidies, the cost of every fossil fuel skyrockets and people would naturally switch faster…

Like, you’re saying “let the free market handle it” while actively ignoring that it’s not a free market because the worst option is subsidized.

All the Abrhamuc religions hate LGBTQ because they all came about competing against each other.

It’s easier to keep someone born into the religion than convert someone who grew up outside of it.

So the biggest priority has always been for existing followers to have as many kids as possible. It all comes down to money/power. The more followers listen to you, the more money you get in donations and the more power you have. Even today, waaaaay too many Americans just vote how their religious leader tells them.

You can’t logic them out of it, because logic didn’t factor into their support of trump in the first place.

They reference themselves as sheep constantly, and they are.