Second round of protests at more than 2,500 sites are set for Saturday, including in cities where Trump has sent troops

Donald Trump has promised to crack down on dissent and sent troops into US cities. His allies are claiming antifa, the decentralized antifascist movement, is behind plans to protest. He’s looking for any pretext to go after his opponents.

Still, this Saturday, even in cities with troops on the ground, millions of people are expected to march against the president as part of a second “No Kings” protest. The last No Kings protest in June drew several million people across more than 2,000 locations. This time, more than 2,500 cities and towns nationwide are hosting protests.

Organizers expect this Saturday’s protests to draw more people than the June events as the American public sees the excesses of the Trump administration more clearly.

    • goferking (he/him)@lemmy.sdf.org
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      I guess it’s this? Their site is shit for information just we’re here as grassroots to be in all states, no violence

      We call on our government to…

      ● Uphold the Constitution.

      ● End Executive overreach.

      Our movement will continue to hold massive protests nationwide until these 2 calls are satisfied by our elected officials.

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        Wow… this can’t be serious?

        How do… how could possibly anyone… no… with vauge “demands” like that… if this is serious, this “protest” is trash.

        This is just a giant “circle jerk”

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            No, its very vauge. Uphold it? Thats what the government should do all of the time every time, we need to always try to ensure that. So how is the protest going to encourage government folks to be more strick about upholding the constitution? What positions need to be investigated? Who is going to be verifying that the constitution is being upheld?

            “Let’s go protest!” “OK what?” “Uphold the constitution!!” “Okay? Who? Or what?”

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              Yes, NoKings is probably controlled opposition. There needs to be a more specific message, but at the same time the judges should know that bending to dictatorship is against the will of the people.

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          The only point is to demonstrate power in numbers. MAGA demands that the citizens be weak and compliant. No Kings demonstrate that MOST of the country will NEVER accept that.

          It takes about 3.5% of the population to reach a Tipping Point, and launch a trend that will cause change. In America, that’s about 12.5 million people. The last No Kings protest drew about half of that, enough to make MAGA nervous, especially when you figure that there are a LOT of No Kings sympathizers who didn’t go out and march (something we forget, but MAGA does not). I’m fact, it is probably a very safe assumption that there were a LOT more No Kings sympathizers at home than there were at the marches, probably several times more.

          Now they are expecting a significant increase in participation, and MAGA is getting really scared. That’s why they are claiming it will be violent, so they can justify violent military/ law enforcement intervention, and hope that the threats will suppress participation. Like most MAGA ideas, it’s a very bad one, and it is only making people more determined to confront them.

          The closer No Kings gets to the magical 3.5%, with the massive unknown number of supporters at home, the more worried MAGA will get that we will all see how badly outnumbered they are, both idealogically and physically. They know that once that happens, we collectively lose our fear of them, and that’s when they all end up in prison, or worse. We are already very close.

          Worse for MAGA, is the fact that their supporters tend to be very cowardly, so much that they elected a corrupt pedophile traitor to protect them from the evil Liberals that their Conservative Propaganda Machine convinced them are hiding around every corner ready to jump out and force their children to turn trans. When those people see that MAGA isn’t as big and tough and all-powerful like they thought, when they see incredible numbers of protesters across the nation, even in Red States, they will understand how strong the opposition is, and some may opt out of the MAGA protection once they realize that MAGA is eventually going down, and taking everybody with it. Better to be a rat jumping ship than trying to navigate a post-MAGA nation with the stench of MAGA emanating from you.

          They are already actively gaming the election process in multiple ways, taking away any hope of a revolution at the ballot box. As Thomas Jefferson once said: “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable.”

          No Kings is our warning shot across their bow.

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            WAY to much to unpack here… ok, so the “no kings” protest aren’t explicitly communist, but they are supported by the “Communist Party USA” and “the young Communist league of New york” and others. These folks dont even deny being Communist… no the “no kings” movement is very anti-american and they dont deny it at all. No, no one will actually take the “no kings” protest seriously because all you people want to do is tear down America, in your own words. Am I wrong? You hate america. Im only repeating what ive heard yall say, you think America is trash and most Americans are trash. You think the system is so messed up that it all needs to be torn down and rebuilt…? Does that sound right?

            MAGA… you use it now for a catch all of everything you think is wrong… you’ve really been led by the nose here. I blame public school and mass media

            Edit: my comments like this usually get deleted by mods for no reason. As you can see, I was not rude or divisive, but like other such benign comments about politics, a mod will personally not like what I have to say

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              I’d say I don’t care what some MAGA thinks, but MAGAs aren’t capable of intellectual thought, as your post clearly demonstrates. Communists? Please, what century is this? There are no fucking Communists anywhere in the world. Even the countries that claim to be Communist, aren’t really Communist. That’s a dead ideology that only exists in the empty minds of MAGAs, so they can have another imaginary enemy to get outraged about.

              Your post is hilarious, with one ignorant statement after another. Clearly your entire shallow political knowledge is totally derived from the Conservative Propaganda Machine, and you don’t even do a good job of using it to defend your position.

              no one will actually take the “no kings” protest seriously because all you people want to do is tear down America, in your own words. Am I wrong? You hate america. Im only repeating what ive heard yall say, you think America is trash and most Americans are trash. You think the system is so messed up that it all needs to be torn down and rebuilt…? Does that sound right?

              I don’t hate America or most Americans, just MAGAs, like you. Why? Because MAGA is an evil ideology, and it’s followers are EVIL people. Get this straight: EVERY SINGLE MAGA supports Treason, Corruption, Racism, White Supremacy, Pedophilia, Cowardice, Violence, Genocide, Ignorance, and Incompetence, and that means YOU.

              And you are also a LIAR, another ubiquitous MAGA trait. You haven’t heard anybody on the Good Side say, “America is trash and most Americans are trash” but that is a lie. You have NEVER heard that from anybody but your own lying propagandists, and you are so stupid you believe it.

              We are the Americans, and you MAGAs are the treasonous enemy who hates America, and we are going to take our country back, and then deal with cowardly pedophile traitors like you.

              Stop thinking like a MAGA Traitor, and start thinking like an American.

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                Wow!!! ROFL!.. I never “rofl”… but I just did… hahaha. At first, I was surprised, then in disbelief, then “rofling”, disbelief again, then “rofling” again…

                Ok… lol. Ill try to respond respectfully… or not… why the fuck do you think im “maga”? just anyone that pisses you off is maga i guess? Thats besides the point anyway, doesn’t matter one way or the other.

                Ok, im only going to point out a couple things for you.

                Communists? Please, what century is this? There are no fucking Communists anywhere in the world.

                … like, this is your second sentence, and you sounds 100% serious… but that level of stupidity is like “I failed middleschool” stupidity. And I dont know why I punish and degrade myself by engaging with such stupidity. But let’s continue!

                I don’t hate America or most Americans, just MAGAs, like you. Why?

                You dont hate me, you hate MAGA the boogyman, just like you have been programed for. Im not your boogeyman, trust me. (And many of your friends wouldn’t agree with you, they hate America 100%)

                You haven’t heard anybody on the Good Side say, “America is trash and most Americans are trash” but that is a lie.

                You’re right, I have never heard the “good side” say America is trash or shit talk about America. Ive heard 1st hand from my democrat friends talk major shit about how America is shit and we need revolution and promoting assassinations and shit, thats what I hear from my friends that vote democrat, thats only my personal first hand experience though.

                We are the Americans, and you MAGA***(make america great again)***s are the treasonous enemy who hates America

                Really? Do you believe we should deport illegal immigrants? Democrats are not the ones renegotiating trade deals, having strict immigration control. Foreign policy emphasizing priority to the U.S. interests and reducing foreign aid. No… that is the America first policy that is currently happening by the right, not left…

                Geez, I wish you could appreciate my effort

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          No trust me bro. It will end fascism just like the last one. And the one before that. Just 2.5% of whatever man. Trust.

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      I demand Trump be removed from office and imprisoned for his many crimes

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      Public protests are critically important building blocks for resistance. Here are just a few reasons:

      1. Public protests express implicit power.
      They are a threat, demonstrating to those in power the magnitude of what is to come.

      2. Public protests increase participation.
      They express a promise to current and future participants that they have comrades who will show up, stand beside them, hold the line, and expect the same in return.

      3. Public protests increase organization.
      Onsite and post-event recruitment is not only the primary means of increasing participation, it remains the most organic and hard-to-digitally-replicate method of expanding organizational efforts on account of network effects.

      4. Public protests are grounded.
      They represent a ground truth condition that anyone can see for themselves. There are numerous effective strategies for obscuring, sandbagging, or sabotaging public campaigns conducted exclusively on digital networks and platforms, but it is next to impossible to conceal public displays of flesh-and-blood human beings collecting en masse.

      E: removed fifth item to avoid misrepresenting actual risk of authoritarian violence, which is expected to be low in most places, and thus discouraging those who might otherwise attend.

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      You are correct. It’s a big parade. On a weekend. If I were a fascist, I would feel VERY emboldened knowing this is the worst I’ll have to worry about from the resistance.

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        I’m genuinely perplexed, because it’s not like it’s too difficult to slightly change the protests to cause actual inconvenience and incite a real reaction at the same time. I don’t think the government gives a shit about this at all – in most cities, it’s literally just a bunch of people standing outside and shouting for 2 hours, and an increase in traffic, but otherwise no real inconvenience. With how disorganized and loud they are, I find it hard to imagine that they did anything to increase “organization” by much, and besides, there is an opportunity for organization online (literally how 90% of people found out about the fucking protest to begin with, LET’S NOT LIE TO OURSELVES) that wasn’t taken advantage of because… I guess we’re fucking stupid? That or this is some CIA shit.

        Furthermore, the protests are so decentralized they feel effectively useless when you consider it’s just about standing around outside out of the way of traffic and everything. Small protests in small and medium-sized communities were encouraged, meaning these people were like, sitting around maybe 5-10 miles from their homes instead of putting in the effort and personal sacrifice to transport themselves to protest where there presence would actually matter a bit more and be more significant.

        You could easily have moved these protests into highways/major roads/bridges… Still standing around, but in a way that would cause a material difference. In this case the decentralization of the protests would actually be an advantage because it could cause major hiccups all over the country. People wouldn’t get to their jobs or would get to them late, supplies and products wouldn’t get shipped/shipped in time, and people wouldn’t be able to just ignore what’s going on and head to their weekend retreat.

        Also, the protests are way too fucking short (2-4 hours is pathetic especially for a weekend holy shit I stand more at my job), don’t happen frequently enough, and the fact that it’s held on the weekend is laughable because you know exactly who set it up then. People who work a normal 9-5/8-4 (or other normal: get to work in the morning, get home by the evening kind of schedule) where they get their weekends off. Or something work-from-home. AKA most likely comfortably middle class. Meanwhile people who work irregular hours are the ones sacrificing their actual wages/risking their jobs to get to these protests unlike the rest who couldn’t be assed to be brave enough for that and needed a weekend protest. (Though, again, holding protests more frequently and on different days could ease that issue.)

        I won’t entirely decry them, I think it’s an okay start. But if this is the way it stays, then damn, let the economy collapse because that’s the only thing that’ll set people’s pants on fire.

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          Nah, don’t be so hard on yourself. You aren’t a fascist. Just a fascist enabling coward who values property over human lives.

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              Seems you’ve got it covered.

              Your grandchildren, if you ever have any, won’t want to talk about you.

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                My many children are all hardened fascist, if my grandchildren aren’t ill disown them and let all the “social programs” take care of them since thats what they want and see how they like it.

                Being a socialist, trying to make everyone all equal makes everyone an unmotivated, uninspired fiscally poor losers. Why would anyone work 80 hours busting ass trying to accomplish something great when it doesnt matter and you make as much as Joe shmoe next door working 40 and bullshits all day. If there is no reward for excelling, no one will.

                I digress. Let me get back in character.

                Im glad the government takes what I produce and then redistributes it as it sees fit. Actually since they take all my surplus and I get nothing, I fired almost everyone, cause I can’t afford to pay them… anyway… im bored now

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    They will not be having any legal civil-rights, shortly.

    They’re “fighting the wrong war”.

    shrug

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    All these protests are filled with people that are pissed off 24/7.

    Bursting with energy? Riled up by media? Public schooled? Entitled? Want to focus it in some sort of vague protest? You’ll fit right in at the “no kings protests”.