• NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip
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      Just like chili is a stew (which is a very thick soup) and hot dogs (and tacos) are open faced sandwiches and so forth.

      Pretty much all of these memes fall apart if you at all know how to cook. Which is probably why they are so lasting.

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        The memes are intended to show the absurdity of trying to apply strict classificationss to something as varied as food.

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        Hot dogs aren’t open-faced sandwiches. The bun is split open; the sausage lies within, not atop a sole piece of bread.

        And that’s not even addressing the fact that “open-faced sandwich” is an oxymoron. By that logic, a slice of [proper NY] pizza is a sandwich as much as a taco, as they are folded and consumed in the same manner, which is clearly ludicrous.

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            I wouldn’t think so. Thus, tacos aren’t open-faced sandwiches. Of course, neither is a piece of cheese on a cracker, but that’ll just further confuse OC.

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              Why are people downvoting us? Are open faced sandwiches such a controversial issue?

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                I like to think it’s angry spez not wanting good content here. He has a bunch of alts here that he has minions downvote with, while he stands over their shoulder micromanaging what they downvote.

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          Why would that be so ludicrous? It is meat and cheese with a lubricating sauce on bread.

          That said, I would actually argue the distinction there isn’t the form factor but the cooking method. For pizza/“pizza”, you start with raw dough and add toppings to it and then cook. Rather than adding toppings to a cooked dough (i.e. bread). Although I want to say there is a style of pizza that actually cooks the dough first for some reason? I am inclined to blame Chicago just because they are usually the food criminals. Also I’ve never actually made one but I assume at least some of the chain store sausage rolls (?) the Brits like are also starting from toppings in raw dough but… let’s just say Chicago learned their food atrocities from somebody…

          But, regardless: The point is that all of these are mostly just regional/cultural equivalents of the same meals. Tacos and sandwiches mostly fulfill the same role of being a way to eat leftovers without getting your hands too messy and were popular with “lower class” workers. Soups, chilis, and curries are mostly a way to get a bunch of ingredients into an easy to cook (and leave in the pot) format that can also be stretched pretty far with stuff like rice and bread. And so forth.

          And, again, once you actually start cooking you realize this and realize how easy it is to translate skills from one cuisine to another. Flavor profiles are very different but you rapidly realize you are doing mostly the same motions when you are making a Japanese or Indian curry or a British stew and so forth. And… you can then consider different cooking vessels and the like and how that might actually work better than the traditional style (just make sure you call it “fusion” so people don’t get pissy).

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            Man, you managed to take a fun fake argument and add some sly insults. Good job.

            Anyway, parbaking is a thing

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      Somehow, I agree to ravioli=dumpling but can’t go as far as saying that pop-tart equals anything in that category

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    Easy. First off:

    Pop-tarts are calzones.

    More fights:

    Greek salad is fruit salad

    Paris sucks

    Chick-fil-A isn’t actually good

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      Pop-tarts are calzones.

      This is more accurate than ravioli but its still the wrong kind of dough. Pop-tarts are empanadas.

      Greek salad is fruit salad

      True.

      Paris sucks

      Never been but its not particularly high up on the list of places I want to visit.

      Chick-fil-A isn’t actually good

      It’s OK at best. Certainly not worth the line (the one I live near is always packed) or the bigotry they fund.

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        The chik fil a line moves fast, but isn’t worth it.

        They do have the best spicy chicken sandwich, but everything else is on par with other shitty fast food.

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          You’re not wrong, Ive been to many and they all are not pleasant in their own way. But for me, Paris had genuinely no redeeming factors. Every major attraction to go was tainted with a seedy underbelly that was active no matter the time of day or where you were. It was insane. I ended up chaperoning a small group of five and had to practically wrap my arms around them to fend off purse snatchers. Its something that sounds like hyperbole, and if you told me the same thing, I wouldn’t believe you had I not experienced it.

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      Man, I don’t think I could be bothered to fight about any of those.

      I’d laugh at the pop tarts one (that’s a good one), the rest, meh.

      I mean Paris is cool and all, but what a shit show with the insane traffic (like any large city). The food is fantastic though.

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        Best food I had in Paris was Belgian. Best bar was Irish. Art…sure, OK.

        France in general I really like. Loooove the south. Paris is overrated AF and riding high on reputation from 1870-1943.

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        Could just be me or just bad luck last time I was there. I really liked Bordeaux, but I also love a port town. Strasbourg, Pézenas, enjoyed them both.

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      Paris sucks

      Anyone who’s been to Paris will probably agree, especially Parisians

      Greek salad is a fruit salad

      Tbh a proper one is just a deconstructed sandwich

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      So ok, Chick-fil-A sandwich is pretty good if you don’t get the pickle and mayo.

      But everything else is eh, and the sauces are downright disgusting

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      Doesn’t a calzone require the fold in the dough where a ravioli is two “sheets” of cough pinched together? Or am I misremembering sandwich classifications?

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    That’s ridiculous. The singular of ravioli is raviolo, a singular pop tart couldn’t possibly be multiple ravioli.

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    I think the hyphen in poptart is a bigger sin than the statement.

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    Sorry it’s actually a lasagna.

    There are 3 foods. There is soup. There is salad. And then there is lasagna. That’s it.

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      I have an in-law who’s a vegan and explained it as “if I consume less there’s a tiny bit less cruelty. A tiny bit less demand.” I like that. It’s not about purity. It’s about trying.

      I’m still not vegan. I suppose that doesn’t say good things about me.

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        This might just be non-vegan apologia, but I like to think that recognising the ethical merit in veganism is a step in the right direction, especially if you manage to not feel unhelpful levels of guilt about it (my ex’s mom was annoying as hell, because she would cry if she ever thought about the fact that the meat she was eating used to be an animal. She felt so guilty about it that the cognitive dissonance caused her to reflexively avoid growth.)

        I used to be irrationally somewhat anti-vegan, but now I am merely non-vegan. I’m not even vegetarian yet, but I am closer to that than I was a year ago. I’m not there yet, but I’m trying. It makes me uncomfortable to recognise the cognitive dissonance in me when I acknowledge that my current diet is not in line with my personal ethics. However, sitting with that discomfort is one of the ways in which I’m trying.

        Along those same lines, give yourself space to grow. The fact that you recognise being non vegan as not saying good things about you is itself, a little good thing, in my opinion. It’s not much, but that self awareness is definitely pointing you in the right direction.

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        I can see where your in-law’s coming from, but to put a finer point on it:

        Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose; and by extension, promotes the development and use of animal-free alternatives for the benefit of animals, humans and the environment. In dietary terms it denotes the practice of dispensing with all products derived wholly or partly from animals.

        That’s why vegans aren’t interested in “cruelty free” animal products. It’s not just the fact that there is still a lot of cruelty involved; we’re opposed to animal exploitation regardless. Veganism naturally came out of the animal rights movement.

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        It’s nice when as a society we decide whose lives matter and whos don’t

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          We all do. Some people just extend that that circle larger than others.

          Carnivores/omnivores extend it to most humans.

          Pescatarians to mammals with regard to food, but often not to other mild inconveniences like pest control.

          Vegetarians to the rest of animals with the same caveat.

          Jains to animals with fewer caveats, but not to bacteria, plants, or fungus.

          And we’re distant cousins of all of these.

          There are arguments to be made for each line, like sapience, sentience, consciousness, and pain response, but the line chosen is largely arbitrary.

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              Somewhere between vegetarians and jains, depending on how much they respect the right to life of non-mammal animals (roaches, mosquitos, ants, etc) outside of food contexts. But veganism isn’t generally a distinction from vegetarianism with regard to right to life, just rights more broadly, so it’s on a somewhat different axis. Many seem only concerned with “cute” animals (i.e. mammals and a small subset of marine animals) outside of food contexts, but I’m sure there are some who wouldn’t bug-bomb their house. I doubt many sweep the ground in front of them to avoid stepping on bugs, like devout Jains. In fact, most vegans would consider that extreme, which betrays their bias towards the cute animals that deserve to live, since they’d absolutely go out of their way to not step on one of their preferred species.

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                Look, religion is one thing, science is another.

                Jainism is a religion, as peaceful as it is, it also has it’s flaws. Some jains use dairy products because it is generally acceptable, though with modern practices it obviously violates their core principles, but loopholes like that are common to religions.

                Veganism is pretty simple and practical, it is all about reducing harm. Of course each vegan has their own interpretation of what constitutes as unnecessary harm and what doesn’t, but it is rooted in our scientific understanding of who can actually be harmed.

                It is far more than a diet, it is the understanding that my wants are not above others needs and rights, human or otherwise.

                The way I see it, Veganism is the most moral framework that is rooted in reality.

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            Considering that you have about the same amount of brain power as a plant, I might just be convinced.

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                The fact that people care about animals and want less suffering in the world triggered you to provoke. But sure, I am the sensitive one 😘