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      Wasn’t the assassination due to some connection to a church if I recall correctly

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        Most successful political assassination in recent memory. The shooter got everything he wanted and then some.

        Inspiring, really.

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            Most assassinated politicians become lionized and turned into heroes, even if the reality did not convey that. For Shinzo, however, Japan basically collectively agreed that he was an asshole and his reputation was ruined. That rarely happens.

            Imagine if the assassination attempt on Trump in 2024 was successful and then… not only does MAGA die immediately, but even the most die hard MAGA people immediately say ‘yeah Trump was a dipshit anyway.’

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        Yeah, Moonies. I can’t remember why him. The kid that did it, his mom was grifted 100k or something. That’s all I remember though.

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          It was because Abe, like other LDP politicians, had an history of propping up the Church of Unification cult. The shooter picked him specifically because of a video of Abe speaking in one of their churches. Abe’s family in particular has connections to the cult since the very foundation, and their ties to the LDP are something out of a “Like A Dragon”/“Yakuza” plot.

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            Yep.

            People not from or really familiar with Japan and also South Korea… when you tell them that actually, weird ass insano religious cults actually fund and drive a very substantial amount of politics and prominent political personalities…

            People often think you are being some kind of racist when you say that.

            Nope. This is just actually true, to an extent that is often absurd/incomprehensible to many in the Anglosphere.

            Which… is kinda weird, because, look at the US.

            The Republican party, as in elected officials, is … majority composed of outright christian nationalist theocrats? Supermajority?

            That are functionally a death cult that is actively trying to bring about their version of the apocalypse, at a geopolitical scale, so that Jesus can rapture them all away.

            … What are the Mormons? Oh, right, an extremist domestic terrorist religious cult, founded by a locally infamous conman, that just barely managed to not get snuffed out in its infancy of many clashes with Federal Forces and state militias, that’s just managed to get a hell of a lot better at PR… while also continuing to evangelize and amass money and political power, and gaslight the fuck out if its adherents as to its actual history.

            It really shouldn’t be shocking at all that massive, culty religious organizations with opaque external financial reporting standards and essentially always also massive tax breaks/exceptions… do in fact worm their way into having massive power over the political apparatus.

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              Don’t forget Scientology. They had members infiltrate the IRS all over the country, working from the inside to get tax-exempt status for them, cementing their identity as an official religion.

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                Oh god yes dear fucking lord.

                I would say its astounding they haven’t been banned, but they have a loooot of money, so, no, that makes perfect sense.

                Yeah Scientology, is the most direct analogue to the insano cult shit in East Asia.

                They stalk people, have probably assasinated people, imprison people in their little nonsense navy, buy entire city neighborhoods and all the local municipal politicians… got the insane alien religion, the fucking e meter cans things… entire thing is basically a massively gaslighty, manipulative and dangerous cult.

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                There’s interesting connections between Scientology and transphobia… look into Anna Slatz. Reduxx is what a lot of TERFs like Rowling read…

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      She is still alive, though, and may have been avoiding taking to Trump by not knowing English all along!

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        I think they’re saying that if Abe isn’t the prime minister anymore (because dead) then she isn’t the First Lady anymore either

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          That’s like someone posting a picture of a newspaper when Bush was president and then someone commenting “well he’s not president now haha” like yeah everyone knows that…

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            But it doesn’t say Abe’s name, so it’s very likely there’s some folks who don’t realize that this photo is rather old. It would be easy to read it and think this just happened in the last few days.

            I think they were trying to be helpful, it’s likely not something worth being upset over.

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      I think Hitler would have hated Trump. Pretty sure he did end up hating Mussolini. Fascism isn’t a big friendship club.

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        Hitler considered Italians to be racially inferior to even the French. Also there was little cooperation between the axis powers. They didn’t share much technology and or industrial power. Unlike the allies who were far more cooperative.

        For example many people make a big deal about Hitler’s plan for nuclear weapons… but what no one talks about is Japan’s nuclear program… and how much closer they got to making a functioning nuke. There was very little information sharing between Japan and Germany, however.

        In terms of industry, the Italian air force often had decent airframes but poor engines. The Germans had excellent engines but didn’t do much to help the Italians with their air force logistical issues.

        Take this in comparison to the US which absolutely flooded its allies with everything from cutlery to explosives to fuel and everything in-between. The Soviet army was bolstered greatly by American trucks, jeeps, and heavy machinery that would have made winning the war incredibly difficult.

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          Yeah, I sometimes wonder why the European and Japanese fascists even allied.

          I’m doing a hearts of iron 4 playthrough as germany and just said no when the option of allying with Japan came up. It’s that alliance that ends up pulling the US into the war. This way I think Japan will have their own little war with the US and China while I fight it out with Britain and finish that up before even looking at the Soviets funny.

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        Yeah, it’s specifically fine a new outgroup to blame if they’ve eliminated the previous one. They have allies or convenience, but they wouldn’t keep them if it didn’t benefit themselves somehow.

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      Anybody whose able to speak another language than english can do it.

      But that does exclude a lot of americans.

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        you don’t even actually have to speak another language. just make shit up. babble like a fundie “speaking in tongues” and repeat “no speakey eni englche”… helps if you can go a little castor-eyed and pull out the crazed weirdo look.

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          But please don’t try that with bilinguals. We may not understand you but we have plenty of experience knowing what a foreign language sounds like.

          I’ve had two people pull that shit on me and all they did was lose my respect for thinking I’m that stupid.

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            While I get what you’re saying, I’m not sure whether people who are pretending to speak another language in order to avoid talking to you really care after they have your respect.

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              What’s funny is that one of them did it while their friend was introducing us to seem interesting, I guess, and the other time was out on the street where an older guy was tipsy drinking in public, pulling at my arm, trying to grab my attention while I was about to cross the street. I don’t know what was up with either of them, to be honest. Both happened in the same week, and never again.

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            so like, the people it works on, aren’t going to be bilingual people, generally. especially if you happen to be a white dude. But it is fun to fuck with a certain crowd.

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              Oh, that’s why I’m saying it, they didn’t know I’m bilingual! So make sure you know first. 😅

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        You only need a couple of phrases (and a practiced accent/pronunciation) to seem believable enough for them to give up

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          This. The sayings we all know can easily be repurposed. I am sorry I don’t speak [english]. No I do not understand you. Thank you. Where is the train.

          I may have done this to American tourists in Europe.