NDP supporter here … but I’ve always enjoyed Chretien as a solid leader with a goofy side. It’s amazing for me because I’m indigenous and Chretien was the leading edge of wanting to remove native rights in the 70s as minister of indian affairs … but I still love the guy because he good at heart and I looked up to him in the 90s as prime minister. Lots of respect for him for leading Canada.
Not Canadian, no dog in this race, but also in a FPTP government so yeah, fingers crossed you guys girls and everything around it get a proportional system.
I’m watching on cpac.
Good speech from Chrétien, considering he’s 90 years old although the people yelling “woooo!” after every other sentence should maybe calm down a bit.
NDP supporter here … but I’ve always enjoyed Chretien as a solid leader with a goofy side. It’s amazing for me because I’m indigenous and Chretien was the leading edge of wanting to remove native rights in the 70s as minister of indian affairs … but I still love the guy because he good at heart and I looked up to him in the 90s as prime minister. Lots of respect for him for leading Canada.
Saying all that though … I’m still an NDPer
The increased Liberal momentum has boosted the NDP’s chance to win my riding substantially so I’m definitely grateful for that.
Carney seems like he’s open to electoral reform so hopefully this is the last FPTP election.
So was Trudeau. I hope you’re right, but it feels like a longshot.
Carney said big changes. If he wins the general election it’s definitely a mandate for big changes.
Only if it’s a majority government.
Carney isn’t going to go for MMP the same way the NDP isn’t going to go for ranked ballot.
It will be interesting for sure to see what kind of government emerges from the next general election. Could even be in 6 weeks from now.
The Liberals and Conservatives aren’t going to do election reform. First past the post is a massive benefit to both of them.
Not Canadian, no dog in this race, but also in a FPTP government so yeah, fingers crossed you guys girls and everything around it get a proportional system.
Thank you! Any system is better than FPTP. I’m hoping we go MMP as we then get the best of both worlds.
Reminder of the Liberal’s record on proportional representation: “Liberals never wanted to “make every vote count.”… Electoral reform has become a bonbon offered at election. As far back as 1919, Liberals have campaigned on the promise of proportional representation”
I doubt he’ll support PR. The Liberal Party benefits from FPTP more than any other party. They stand the most to lose from a PR system.
There’s no good reason for PR or nothing. RCV or even top 2 runoff (not as good as RCV, imo) can be legitimately preferred.
See: A Simple Guide to Electoral Systems. It’s still a work in progress, but lays out a good framework for discussing electoral systems.
We need to stop seeing PR as anything except citizen’s having the most to gain under PR.
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I loved his joke about burning down the White House lol
“don’t make us come down there again!”
That would be me. Sorry. Energy in the room was exciting. A lot of us had the nostalgia factor.