• sbv@sh.itjust.works
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    Just like last time. Do we have stats on the number of people that moved?

    Edit: we do!

    In the first three years of Trump’s time as president [since there were increased border restrictions in the last due to COVID], Canada welcomed an average of about 859 new permanent residents from the U.S. every month, still almost 19.2 per cent fewer than during Biden’s time in the Oval Office.

    I’m not sure if the quality of data or methodology.

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      Any American moving to Canada would need to be trained in an in-demand job. In-demand jobs typically pay well, but jobs in Canada pay less than their equivalent job in America. The reason Canada attracts Indian engineers and not American engineers is because Indian engineers get paid less than Canadian engineers, but American engineers get paid more than Canadian ones. There’s no economic incentive for American engineers to immigrate.

      On top of the pay cut, Canada is also experiencing a housing, food, and healthcare crisis. Moving to Canada isn’t the best option if an American is hoping to escape economic troubles. If their plan is to instead escape political troubles, I unfortunately don’t think Canada is much better. Poilievre is a jerk and a bully but looks set to win as big as Trump did. Many provinces are also already firmly run by climate change denying, healthcare privatizing conservatives.

      Also they’d have to learn celsius.

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        To you last point, only for outdoor weather.

        They can comfortably live in Fahrenheit for house temp, water temp, body temp and cooking temps.

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          I wonder if that’s a regional or an age thing. I grew up in the eastern half of the country, and clock in as “younger than Boomer.”

          I’ve only heard folks under sixty refer to oven temperatures in fahrenheit, everything else is Celsius.

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            I’m from BC and my experience is the same. I will say however I have stayed in hotels and Airbnb’s with thermostats/hot tubs set in F. So whether or not that was deliberate, it’s a simple setting to change. You could easily get by with F for all your personal temperature needs, just not talking to others about the weather.

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            I’ve only heard folks under sixty refer to oven temperatures in fahrenheit, everything else is Celsius.

            Thats because Grandmas cookbook is in Fahrenheit, well mine is anyway

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            Crazy!

            Mid 30s millennial here from the prairies.

            When we moved out, the thermostat didn’t have Fahrenheit it only had Celsius. My parents could never understand what our house temperature was and it took me forever to figure it out because I grew up with Fahrenheit indoors, Celsius outdoors.

            Ovens are only set to Fahrenheit, and we would always check the pool temperature in Fahrenheit

            Even now, when my kids have a fever I measure it in Fahrenheit

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        Also they’d have to learn celsius.

        No properly educated engineer is unfamiliar with metric measurements.

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        It would be a difficult move. For anyone doing well in the US, it would be a decrease in pay and an increase in expenses.

        Many provinces are also already firmly run by climate change denying, healthcare privatizing conservatives.

        I was glad to see Higgs lose. Pity about Moe though.

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      I’m sure it’s not many because as I understand it the legal limitations make it too difficult. I’ve read it’s actually easier to go to Mexico.

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        Mexico might be safer politically but its much more likely to be invaded by fascist America.

    • I came into Canada in 2018 and applied for PR in 2019. I didn’t get it until recently, I faced a lot of delays in and with the system.

      A lot changed post-COVID that made it easier to get in, such as:

      • increasing the number of folks admitted for PR (as per https://policyoptions.irpp.org/magazines/april-2022/immigration-increase-pandemic/ ) meaning that you could get in more easily with a lower score

      • post graduate work permits becoming renewable

      • a new policy to allow some students to apply straight for PR - those lucky enough to apply fast enough anyways (you might remember that this is the one that became full on the first day it was open)

      Not to mention US-focused changes like opening the door for H1b visa holders, https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/work-canada/permit/h1b.html

      There were provincial changes too, like Ontario dropping the three month waiting period so you could get OHIP right away as soon as you met other eligibility requirements.

      Had these changes been implemented during orange voldemort’s term, instead of Biden’s, I recon we’d have seen the same increase. (Why the wait by Canada on doing this? Well it always takes time to get a new policy off the ground, and with COVID becoming a serious threat in March 2020 and the vaccine only making it to Canada in April 2021, if anything these changes seem to have come in absurdly fast.)

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      Could be because the decision to move and be accepted takes time and some of the biden moves were initiated by the trump presidency