The town literally uses design language to draw you to the green path. Reminds me of all the games that try to seem more open and nonlinear by making each level essentially made up of two loops, but placing eye catching lighting near the path that 90% of players are gonna take anyway.
I know Skyrim gets a lot of shit these days but I actually really love a lot of things about Whiterun, especially the market square this path brings you through.
Hard agree. The Bannered Mare is one of the best taverns in any game. Still enjoy visiting whenever i go back to Skyrim
When you’re playing frostfall (weather affects you) and ineed (need to eat, drink water, sleep etc) and can’t fast travel all the scattered taverns along the road are a godsend, and feel so realistic. Fill your water skin, buy some more food, warm up and sleep before heading off.
Imagine trying to get to the cloud district very often.
Destination: jarl’s backside
yeah idk who the fuck uses the “no smiths no house no merchants” route
The red line path is only good for a handful of things:
- Gets you to the Temple of Kynareth marginally faster if you’re handing in a quest (e.g., the delivery for Idgrod the Younger in Morthal, or the one where you murder a hagraven outside of Helgen for her magic knife)
- If you are befriending Lars Battle-Born so you can ransack his house to find proof that the Thalmor are holding that one Grey-Mane dude captive
- If you need to go play Elder Scrolls: Mortician’s Assistant up in the Hall of the Dead
- If you have ADHD and get distracted by the shops and you need to hang on to every last septim until you’ve bought that motherfucking homestead and oh god there’s dragon’s tongue and soooo much tundra cotton over there but oh fuck my carry weight is at 299/300 because I refuse to level up and dump points in stamina just yet because my gear sucks and I can’t afford upgrades yet and no no no I will not pick the flowers right now I need safe storage somewhere first so I’d better run past the bougie fuck with the cow in the middle of the damn city; why is there a cow here? THEY DIDN’T THINK OF THE SMELL
That’s really about all I can come up with.
I haven’t played this game in like 9 years but I still know the implications of each path
for the record I went with the green line
fucking what
people do that?
Fuckin wannabe bourge strivers like Nazeem
Was about to post “Imagine having a coherent enough brain to take the same path every time”
I, uh… always took the red line
Do you get to the Cloud District often? Oh, what am I saying, of course you do.
We found one!!!
I just want my fantasy towns to actually be the size that they should be. I don’t care if that involves a lot of places existing for no real reason, I want them to exist whether it’s for roleplay purposes or other things.
I mean, thats one of the cool things about Skyrim (and other Elder Scrolls games to my knowledge). All the NPCs have houses. Yeah,. its still too small for a “city” population wise. But at least everyone lives somewhere and has a bed.
Where are the toilets though.
even basic healing spells reset your gastrointestinal systems so nobody needs to poop if they don’t wanna
^actual, possible kirkbride fan canon
That actually sounds really useful if you’re riding a horse long distance or something in armour. Must be a pain having to dismount and then get all the armour off to do your business, that’s also exactly when the vampires would attack.
What do you think the buckets are for?
Where do they put it though?
- Just dump it out the window
I want a mod for this. Where is the task schedule where the NPCs collect their buckets and toss them out the window? Where are the piles in the streets? When I cast an explosive/concussive spell in the city I want to see shit flying everywhere.
The mod should also add plumbing systems to the dwemer ruins lol
Look for it under the “all NPCs taking a twice daily shit” mod (with the “only women shit optional file”) that almost certainly exists on nexus mods
Do you want the entire day’s worth of walking past farms on the way in?
I mean, yeah kinda?
You could bring back world map travel though. Instead of “fast travel” make the player icon on the world map actually move, and then zoom in for events that might be triggered. Like the old overworld maps we saw in things like Fallout 2.
Gothic basically did this and it was great
Novigrad in Witcher 3 was big. Bethesda could do it if they upped procedural generation for building interiors because they insist on letting you go into every building.
because they insist on letting you go into every building
It kinda sucks when you can’t. It makes the city just feel empty.
Depends on what experience you want to go for, I suppose. Is there any interesting gameplay in a Skyrim or Oblivion that involves breaking into one of the 100 copy-pasted personal residences that aren’t part of a quest? Potentially. But I can only say that I found the radiant thieves guild quests in Riften to be a miserable grind.
Your house is along the green path and I’ve been overencumbered walking for 15 minutes.
wait. what is even on that side of whiterun? i can’t say i’ve ever been there.
A whole bunch of houses to burgle lol. Steal a bunch of rings and necklaces in that stretch
Yeah its not a place you go very often.
oh right all those boring noble houses that are feuding.
Every once in awhile I have a brain spasm and I’ll go up the red line instead of the green one. It’s insane how a place I feel like I know better than the contour of my own fucking hands instantly becomes alien the second you step outside your mental map area.
I wrote a paper a few years ago about this in my undergrad, the basic concept was some weird urban studies/psych shit about how the ‘shape of the world’ people create in their minds eye reinforces or influences the social behaviours you’re likely to exhibit. That paper was profoundly poorly written and super anecdotal but this post makes me want to re-write it.
it’s very simple. milkdrinking mages and thieves go Red. honorable, respectable Companions and Adventurers go Green.
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Am I not suppose to go on the red path? Cause I usually go that way. Am I bad?
I always take the red line because it goes by all the shops. Where does the green line take you? Past some houses full of nerds you don’t care about? boring. I’m going shopping
You got them backwards. Green has the shops.
oh shit you right. got the map completely backwards
