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The GOP candidate got the cold shoulder from firefighters, who, by comparison, warmly embraced Walz on Wednesday

  • Gerudo@lemm.ee
    53·
    3 months ago

    If there is anyone on the planet who gets virtually universal respect, it’s fire fighters. To get booed by them is just another example of how much of a piece of shit you are. Like, HUGE turd.

    • shalafi@lemmy.worldEnglish
      11·
      3 months ago

      No songs about, “Fuck the firemen, comin’ straight from the underground…”

    • hardcoreufo@lemmy.world
      4·
      3 months ago

      Except they get no respect from the GOP. Look at all the FDNY firefighters that have chronic health issues from working during 9-11 and the GOP refuses to pay for health care. Makes sense they’d get booed.

    • nilloc@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
      17·
      3 months ago

      The right wing in my mom’s town passed a measure to close one of the fire stations (to lower taxes).

      Turns out if the fire response times go above a certain threshold, your homeowners insurance goes up by a lot more than the tax cut (I think it saved a couple hundred dollars a year, and added a couple hundred dollars a month to most home insurance in 1/3 of the town).

      Once 1/3 of the town realized it, the measures was repealed before the shutdown could happen.

  • jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world
    271·
    3 months ago

    “Sounds like we got some fans and some haters. That’s okay,” Vance, who’s been dubbed the “negative rizz” candidate by social media users, said.

    Walz, a former union member, championed his and Harris’ pro-labor agenda over that of Trump, who said in a conversation with Elon Musk earlier this month that he would fire federal striking workers, prompting the UAW to file NLRB charges against the duo.

    The group, which endorsed Joe Biden in 2020, has yet to make an endorsement, though the Harris campaign has scooped up the support of several of the largest labor groups in the country.

    • djsoren19@yiffit.net
      32·
      3 months ago

      Negative rizz is such a fucking insane thing to see in the news. Imagine showing that to someone 20 years ago.

          • Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.worldEnglish
            10·
            3 months ago

            Be called out for saying something controversial best I can tell, the term I think originated on Twitter to refer to a comment getting a lot more retweets than likes.

          • prayer@sh.itjust.works
            2·
            3 months ago

            When you make a bold statement but don’t get the support from followers that you expected, instead receiving overwhelming negative responses.

      • Sc00ter@lemm.ee
        8·
        3 months ago

        Rizz wasn’t even a thing 20 years ago. Hell I can’t imagine it 5 years ago

        • bbbbbbbbbbb@lemmy.world
          2·
          3 months ago

          As an RPG player that heard Rizz for the first time a while back it kinda just clicked instantly. Im not sure how unique that is

      • mriormro@lemmy.world
        5·
        3 months ago

        You see the word ‘slammed’ all of the time currently. This is no different; you’re (we’re) just old.

        • djsoren19@yiffit.net
          1·
          3 months ago

          Oh no I’m young, I’m just self aware enough to realize that the things I say are pretty weird. Zoomer culture is insane and beautiful and horrible.

      • Bakkoda@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        5·
        3 months ago

        I have no idea what it means. I’m 41 and basically since 2016 the political landscape to me has been nothing but a bunch of rich people telling me they are gonna make things better. No explanation on how it with what. No hard-line messages on topical issues. Just fuckin garbage sound bites and massively overblown/out of context/straight up fabricated quotes.

        I didn’t get spammed with text messages for the last 6 months telling me all the policy that were gonna get. I didn’t get text messages asking what i thought of [insert candidates/party name] actions on whatever. I got 6 months of spam begging for donations. That’s it. My preferred party has done nothing but beg me for money via SMS like some desperate pampered chef consultant.

        • VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works
          1·
          3 months ago

          It’s just short for charisma, it’s nothing new.

          I couldn’t agree more about the emails though, I paid to join labour here in the uk when they had a leader who seemed to care but all I got for it was endless emails begging for money - I tried to join all the things that said ‘have your say’ or ‘be heard’ but none even pretended to be interested or had any form of way for me to give input. The only option I actually found was I could get tickets to a meeting where theoretically at the end I might get a chance to ask a question from the audience…

          It really made me aware that they don’t actually want to know what people think, either because they have no respect for us or because they know full well that people want things they have no intention of delivering.

          We need to move towards having actual digital town squares where people can voice their opinions, personally I want to be able to register my approval or disapproval of policy and politicians changing it if my mind changes - I’m fed up of just being told ‘we assume people want this so you’ll have to put up with it’ or even worse ‘we’ve decided you should want this so you’re going to enjoy it!’

  • Etterra@lemmy.world
    19·
    3 months ago

    Yeah, they hate you. That’s why they’re booing. Maybe consider asking why they hate you and listening to the answer.

  • lightnsfw@reddthat.com
    129·
    3 months ago

    who, by comparison, warmly embraced Walz on Wednesday

    This seems like weasel words. Did the firefighters not actually warmly embrace Walz but only treated him better than Vance?

    The group, which endorsed Joe Biden in 2020, has yet to make an endorsement, though the Harris campaign has scooped up the support of several of the largest labor groups in the country.

    Nothing in the article shows their response to Walz other than that. More stellar “journalism”…

    • Encrypt-Keeper@lemmy.worldEnglish
      14·
      3 months ago

      Tim Walz was greeted by applause and no boos. Calling his response “Warm” in comparison to Vance’s is perfectly accurate and more than adequate journalism.

      • lightnsfw@reddthat.com
        111·
        3 months ago

        I don’t see that anywhere in this article. Not saying it isn’t true but my comment was specifically a criticism of this piece.

          • lightnsfw@reddthat.com
            15·
            3 months ago

            Where does that say applause? It says “by comparison”(to booing) they warmly embraced Walz. Why “by comparison”? If they warmly embraced him then just say how they did so. They could have sat silently and waited for him to speak and it would be warmer than booing. They could have brought out a marching band in his honor. If you don’t say who knows? Specificity is important if you don’t want to look like you’re trying to spread a narrative that may or may not be true. I shouldn’t have to go find another article describing the event to know what actually happened.

            • Trae@lemmy.world
              4·
              3 months ago

              Wtf do you think warmly embraced means? Jesus, use some context clues or I don’t know find a video of them applauding Governor Walz.

              https://youtu.be/xOigsXPRsuk?si=tN5vgzsC2IrlL7Z5

              That legitimately took me 15 seconds to find a video where I could hear them clapping.

              I’d go even further and say “warmly embraced” is an understatement compared to Vance being openly booed by the same convention.

              • lightnsfw@reddthat.com
                13·
                3 months ago

                As I said it could mean any number of things the threshold they established was warmer than being met with boos. They can either describe what they are claiming happened within the article or be yet another shit journalist. Not that they care as long as their headline gets clicks.

                • Trae@lemmy.world
                  3·
                  3 months ago

                  What else would they do? It’s either cheer or boo.

                  If they had got up and left en masse they’d write that.

                  If they started a riot, then they’d write that.

                  Seriously does everything need to be spelled out for you word for word?

                  It feels like if they had explicitly wrote “they then cheered for Walz” you’d be in here questioning the applicability of the word “cheered” based on the number of people cheering, the exuberance of their cheers, and the length of which the cheer was sustained.

  • Moops@lemmy.worldEnglish
    610·
    3 months ago

    I hate Walz Vance and love that he got boo’d. That said, I don’t understand why everyone is making such a big deal of him calling them “haters”. That’s literally what that word means. I’m a Walz Vance hater. Many of you are haters. It’s a description not a slur.

    Edit: Yeah I fucked this one up royally, didn’t I lol? Sorry folks.