• poVoq@lemmy.ml
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    Great, replace one crazy dictator with another one… leave it to Ursula to come up with the best possible deals. I am sure her Goldman and Sachs buddies already secured it /s

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      Thats the simple problem. Most of the countries which have what we need are run by assholes.

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        I wonder why that is so? Are we the baddies? (Obvious meme reference /s)

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        Well we should just stop using gas anyway, no? Why are we continuing with this insanity when the world is literally burning?

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          Even if you generate all your electricity from renewables, you still need natural gas for non-electricity uses like fertilizer or chemical manufacturing.

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          Maybe because a high amount of people are heating their flats using gas and it is not possible to change that short term.

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            Sure, but it is not like this situation/discussion is new or surprising. You sleep in the bed you make yourself.

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          Because there is no alternative (except freezing). Renewables wont do much in cold, windless winter nights.

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            Well, except that there are plenty of sources of renewable energy that neither depend on wind or the sun. And a well isolated home needs only minimal heating anyways.

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              And which exactly provide enough energy to power an entire country?

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                Its a mix from various sources and energy saving efforts. Its not like natural gas is providing the entire energy needs of Europe either.

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              Sure, but creating the infrastructure to tap into these energy sources takes a long term commitment, and a lot of energy. Europe is clearly isn’t capable of committing to such a project, and now it lacks the energy needed to do so.

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      This entitled attitude is at the root of Europe’s issues. No other society is obligated to give the West any oil or gas. Maybe it’s a good idea to treat trade partners with respect?(especially if they deliver essential resources)

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        It’s not just the Greens anymore, their anti-science propaganda is so deep that most Germans believe it, or at least blindly accept it.

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      No way, we’ll end up with our rivers too hot and the power plants turned off like France.

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        Plus a high cost of building/removing/maintaining. And a dependency on third party states (again). And inhumane working conditions in the uranium mines. And radioactive waste.