An Ontario NDP MPP whose statement on the Israel-Gaza war garnered condemnation from Jewish groups and calls for her resignation by Premier Doug Ford has apologized.

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    I cannot believe you are unable to see the matter, I think you are just arguing in bad faith because you oppose it

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      I’m not acting in bad faith, a reasonable person who sees a bad thing that happens, wants to stop bad things from happening, and reasonable people have looked at this situation and come to the reasonable conclusion that much of the violence is due to the apartheid and oppression of a non-citizen population inside Israel.

      I think many people have their heart in the right place, how do we stop the violence, we disagree on how to best achieve that, but calling people antisemitic for participating in the discourse just serves to polarize and exclude voices.

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        The issue is the timing of the message not the message. It’s not complex

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          Ahh yes, the “now is not the time to talk about gun control” argument that rears it’s ugly head after every school shooting in the US.

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            It’s not even remotely equivalent

            It’s akin to the argument of “x” being a criminal so he deserves to die that people bring up after every cop killing

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              It must be nice to just completely avoid all the history and abuse and just focus on the here and now, I bet it makes everything incredibly black and white.

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                Lol

                Continue to wonder why there was a negative response then

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          Its extremely complex and interrelated, and apartheid isn’t a incidental “nice to have” secondary issue to resolve “later”, to many people its the direct cause of the violence that is dominating the news and breaking our hearts.

          This is what a pressure boiler looks like when applied to people with no options and no hope. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wyn7PmwXJxY

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            thanks for the adjacent lecture but it’s not complex at all

            People have spoken out against the Israeli regime many times before without being asked to resign

            The whole issue is timing of the comment

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                Anytime before the attack, though if it was just before they would still have to retract

                In a month or two it’ll be fine again

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          When will it be a good time? Because apparently it wasn’t a good time before the attack since a certain Palestinian-American in congress has been accused of anti-semetism since taking office because she calls out the genocidal government.