Most of the people I know who do this consistently / longer-term are young adults and/or on drugs. Not like street drugs, but some combo of legally prescribed stimulant/anti-depressant/performance enhancing/hormone/weight-loss stuff. Modern medicine has the answers (for some).
A common scenario I’m seeing is that folks in their 30s, 40s, and 50s are being diagnosed with things like ADHD for the first time, and suddenly once they’re on the proper stimulants, they can full throttle, always be doing something. I’m also seeing this a lot with folks who go on GLP-1 drugs. They lose a bunch of weight in a short amount of time and suddenly feel a lot better, mentally and physically. The other thing I see going on is people getting on hormone replacement or starting performance enhancing drugs a bit later in life, seems to be a real motivating factor for them since they’re suddenly feeling 20 years younger.
So, maybe the answer is be young and if you can’t be young, do drugs?
guess that’s where many go wrong… be young and do drugs
The adults are gonna be alright
I still think the 40-hour work week is inherently tied to the idea of the american nuclear family. The answer is that there simply isn’t the time to do any of these things unless one person is doing the 40-hours a week office job and the other is doing the 40-hours a week “taking care of shit with the house/kids” job.
Before children and during the pandemic I did, but with one simple change, home office instead of 3 hours commuting in heavy traffic.
Same.
I have no kids. My employer just told us we had to be in the office 5 days a week now and I don’t have time to do anything anymore. I lost a big chunk of my spare time and freedom and I just feel like burning the office down now.
Employer here. Look for an alternative offer to leverage. Tell both parties that home office guarantees in writing will have a lot of weight in your final decision.
Yeah that’s what I’ve been trying to do. But nobody’s hiring right now. Or they don’t want to pay a decent salary.
Besides, they’re already forcing us to wear a suit and tie. To be in a cubicle office as IT consultants. To communicate with each other via MS Teams…
But how else will your superior feel powerful?
This sounds like hell. I’m sorry to hear this.
Ahhh the before time
Right?? What kind of 90’s office hell is this?
And this is coming from the founder who gave his company to his children but still hangs around to terrorize the employees with the threat of getting fired if they don’t do as he says.
Sounds bad. What skills are you looking to employ in which rough area?
Employee here. If you need an alternative offer to get reasonable considerations from your employer, just take the alternative offer. The employer clearly doesn’t respect you and your current leverage is just a short term tool until they start taking advantage of you again.
Yeah I was assuming their employer wants to keep them. This is how you negotiate change. My employees are all 100% home office if they want and come in regularly by choice.
Did they take your stapler?
If you bike to work, you feed two birds with one scone.
It snowed 10 inches here today. Not really an option everywhere
Then you’re getting that upper body & core shovel workout.
TIL it doesn’t snow in Netherlands and Denmark /s
Snows very little in the Netherlands these days.
Gotta put those snow tires on.
lol have you tried biking in half a foot of snow, even with a fat bike? that shit is hard as hell and slow as fuck
I bike in the winter to get groceries and stuff, but it’s on mostly plowed surfaces
I was just kidding, I grew up in snowy winters.
An offroad motorcycle though…
Biking through unplowed snow sucks, but it’s hardly impossible. The worst part about it is having to deal with traffic at the same time
I’m planning on doing some winter cycling today since the plows are catching up now!
But I get it, winter cycling requires more gear and more pre-planning that winter driving, you need to invest in better gear that isn’t just whatever hat and gloves are the cheapest at the store, and it makes paved roads more like biking on gravel/sand so you have to put more work in, plus you show up at your destination just as sweaty as summer biking except now you have a bunch of snow gear to wash because it’s all sweaty and gross too and is that melted snow or sweat or snot from my runny nose that I feel on this wet scarf I just covered my face in?!
Edit to add: OH AND THE WIND! Those fall/winter winds are hell on accoustic bicycles. I’ve needed to pedal down a steep hill with a trailer filled with 100lbs of kids and kids school stuff behind me because the wind was so strong that gravity alone wouldn’t propel me down the hill!
if you’re in a city, then it’s still possible, your local government just says ‘fuck you’ to non-drivers
but yeah not much you can do if you’re rural in that situation
of course, half of drivers can’t drive in more than 2 in of snow anyways
Yeah, just starting to bike to work one day is often impossible, just like starting to commute by car would be for someone who lives car-free.
It’s a lifestyle you have to make possible. For me it was always a high priority in life, cause it turns wasted time in traffic into exercise, fun, and, depending on weather, a bit of adventure every day. I’ve never even considered a home or work place that didn’t allow for a bike commute. Which means I didn’t take the highest-paying job I was offered, and didn’t rent the cheapest place per square meter. But I also don’t have a car payment or gas expenses and I arrive awake and relaxed both at work and at home.come on. do it!
its not really 10 inches :-)
Seriously this must be what it’s like to sleep with men, I was promised 10 inches but only got about 6! At least that’s better than when we’re promised 6-8" and only get about 4"
Break out the xc skis!
angry sentiment. the people having nothing better to do than shouting “biking! is the best thing in the world. everybody should do it” for one misses that not everybody wants to do it (and being pressured to do sth causes an understandable and hefty backlash) and that more important, it’s ableist because it assumes everybody is physically healthy enough to even bike in any weather.
for example, my throat reliably hurts every time i bike in temperatures of below 5°C. that’s not because i’m really disabled, but because cold, icy wind + sensitive throat = sore throat. that sucks.
and that’s besides the point that my coworkers wouldn’t really appreciate to smell my sweat for 6 hours (we have no shower in office). and i also don’t want to be in sweat-sticky clothes all day long.
Your reply is ableist because it’s hard for dyslexics to read.
If you can’t ride a bicycle, then find some other synergistic way to save time.
I’m pretty close to getting all these done most days but the only reason it’s possible for me is because I work from home and make enough money to be slowly getting ahead.
I’m in a similar boat. Its definitely a luxury that comes from making decent money at a job that respects your personal time.
But also it does require some amount of focus on improving your own lifestyle because many people spend so much time scrambling to get their finances in order when the world is setup to separate one from their money that by the time you have your finances in order you can be too exhausted to try to do anything with yourself
That’s a good point and I can’t take credit for having my finances in order. My partner is amazing and much better at budgeting than I am. I think that is another big factor for me. Having a supportive partner to encourage and grow with makes a night and day difference. I’m lucky and grateful but also work hard to have a better life.
It’s only really feasible if your fitness activities are also your hobbies and you have friends who share said hobbies. For example, rock climbing, running.
Not while also being a parent. Most of my hobbies and leisure / friend time has taken a giant shit since I became a dad.
I found a good friend group of families with similarly aged children within walking distance of my home. We meet up maybe once a week at one of the local restaurants with patio space and let the kids play while we catch up. That space of 2-3 hours does triple duty: catching up with friends, getting the kids out of the house to do high energy activities with friends, and feeding everyone for dinner on a weeknight.
Having that kind of social group is key. My parents had church, but I’m not religious, so it was important to at least find a way to replicate that social sense of community somehow when I had kids.
For a serious answer, it requires a level of strict discipline and adherence to schedule that makes any reward you get from it feel hollow
Yes but my commute is 10-15 minutes by bicycle, and my kids are all adults now.
I prioritize making time for sleep, exercise and sex in my day, and let everything else work around those. So some of my exercise comes from commuting but I do also do yoga about 4 hours a week and try to lift weights at least once.
When my kids were young, NO it is impossible to do alone. Even if you do have carpool help and aftercare and all, it’s hard. There were years I had to get up at 5 and run to get exercise and other years it was the gym at 22:00 after a night class. But I have always found that it works better if you make your priorities (exercise needs to be one of those) and make a commitment to do those.
I usually have had jobs that were more than the 40 hours, and am NOT a work hard play hard person at all. But if you have one of those 8 hour a day jobs and sleep for 7.5 hours and take half an hour on each end of that to get ready and (critically important) don’t have some hours long commute, there’s plenty of time in the day. I remember when I first got a job that ended at 1700 and having time to cook, feed everyone and go to yoga, or hustle to the 1730 Jazzercise class after work and then still have time to make supper after, instead of feeling so terribly rushed all the time.
Now my day is: wake up around 7, leave for work around 9 after a nice leisurely morning. Work 9:30 to 6:30, ride home and get ready for yoga, go exercise and come home and make supper by 9, eat and have a Pokemon go walk or read or listen to music, (I cook, my husband takes care of the dishes after) then get ready for bed and try to sleep 23-7, sometimes this is midnight to 7 but I do need a solid 7 hours, too much sleep is migraine trigger unfortunately but I sleep well and soundly for that 7 and wake up pretty naturally. It feels like a balanced life.
ETA: I forgot to add, we do the grocery shopping Friday evenings, at a complex that has restaurants and bars and a Ben & Jerry’s, go out for one drink or a restaurant meal then get groceries then go home, so we can treat it like a night out not just an errand. And most weekends are free of work, though we do each have busy seasons with 7 day weeks for a few weeks - during his busy season I do more of the cleaning and we get more takeout meals, during mine we get more takeout or he or the kids will cook. And we outsource the cleaning and have some essentials on auto-ship. I know that work and exercise aren’t the only things you have to do in a week! But we don’t do them on weekdays usually.
Not with two kids I ain’t doing all those, no.
Each day, I am just happy to have survived and have like 1 hour time to sit on the couch before going to bed at 9 pm.
🫂 Hoping things turn around soon/eventually.
It’s pretty easy if you’re not on social media and don’t invest time into things that aren’t aligning with your goals. I.e. I eat very basic food, I moved close to my work, I do chores while winding down for the day, etc.
But you are on social media! You’re here!
Yea, I hit up Lemmy a couple times a day while eating/etc (i.e. right now I’m getting some takeout before my flight and killing time). But unless my night has fallen apart and I have no motivation to work, you won’t catch me doomscrolling the front page :p
You… you do chores… WHILE winding down…?
Picking up around the house or putting dishes away and such can be mindless and relaxing. Its more about doing something that takes no mental energy.
5:30 - get up, get dressed, make the bed
5:45 - go for a walk with my wife and our cat
6:15 - shower, coffee, lemmy, household chores
7:30 - ride bicycle to work
8:30 - work starts
5pm - ride back home
6pm - cook and eat dinner
7pm - household chores
8pm - 1h free time
9pm - go to bed
So I manage to not fall behind on the household, shopping, sleep, me-time or exercise during the week.
I can carve out up to 4 hours for some special evening event once in a while.
Weekends are filled with side projects, visiting family and activities with friends.
Riding a bicycle to work was the game changer for me. It adds 2h of daily exercise and time to reflect during my commute.I’d say there’s some differences between biking and gym in terms of whole body strength and flexibility, but it’s good exercise. Definitely more productive than driving.
I think one point that can still be made is that this schedule means your average day (averaging over weekends) contains 7 hours of work/commute and only 3.5 hours of hobbies/activities.
A move to a 30 hour work week would mean that you would only spend 5.5-6 hours a day working and get 5 hours an average day for hobbies/activities.
there’s some differences between biking and gym in terms of whole body strength and flexibility
Why you gotta dunk on cardio like that?! Seriously if there’s one thing my recent focus on cardio has taught me it’s that more folks who focus on strength need to spend time on cardio. Seriously it greatly reduces your recovery time and gets to where you just need to take micro breaks to recover enough for the next rep/set and can therefore lift longer and more frequently meaning you can get more reps and sets in the same amount of time. Last year I had a few sessions with a trainer because I wanted to work on some upper body strength and the trainer was visibly weirded out by my recovery time, where I’d only need 30-60 seconds between sets and they actually said “hey you can rest longer” and I’m just like “nah I’m good now let’s go!” (It was also funny when doing some leg exercises seeing how I could do 4x as much weight pushing with my legs as I could lifting with my legs) Anyways I’d literally finish the 1 hour session in just 45 minutes thanks to the quick recovery times
You bother to waste time making the bed, but not showering before going to bed? Bizarre.
I don’t even shower every day. Hope that doesn’t break your mind.
Do you ever skip making the bed?
I’ve skipped making the bed for the last 30 years. I’m never in the bedroom unless I’m in bed, so having it be in any other state beyond “able to lay down on” is pointless.
100%
Only when I’ve overslept and am in a big hurry. Then I’m out the door 5 minutes after waking up.
But otherwise, it takes just a minute, and transforms how the room looks.
A messy living space affects your mental state.How? Is your bed in your living room? When you go to bed you mess it up, wouldn’t that affect your mental state?
making the bed is nice because it removes moisture and therefore smell from the bedsheets, so it’s fresh when you want to use it again in the evening :P
edit: important:
by “making the bed” i do not mean to put the blanket down in an orderly, square pattern or sth. i mean to shake it thoroughly once (maybe also do that outside the window) so the moisture from sweat that accumulates in it during the nighttime can be transported away with the wind. then it’s clean and smells really fresh when you want to use it again in the evening.
She buys the groceries, that is your trick.
Not really, we take turns with shopping and cooking.
Simple solution.
You have to make work side project too and gym what you for for fun / hobby.
Too bad if the only thing you hate more than exercise is the job.
I combined work and gym and I’m now doing back breaking labour. 10/10 would recommend
This guy understands capitalism.
I think you need to reassess your understanding of the definition of the word “simple”.
It’s simple, but it might not be easy
Simple–easy to understand or do; not difficult
Emphasis is mine
Except that it’s not? Why would you force yourself to make working out your hobby? That’s very limiting. Your side project can’t always be your job either. In some cases doing that might even take all the fun out of it.
You don’t have to do everything every day
Yes exactly. Hobbies can be enjoyed once a week or two weeks or even once a month! Or they can be practiced more frequently but for less time. 20 minutes a day practicing a musical instrument can do a lot for your learning in so little time. The hard part is sticking to it!
My wife, i don’t know where she gets the energy. Up by 6, does her work, hits the gym, goes out with her friends, i don’t get it
Urgh, social people. Hate those sexy bastards
I sit in a cave all day wrapped in a cloak cursing the light, i married my opposite
Doing cardio regularly immensely increased my surplus energy.
Now I’m back to sitting on my ass though
