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In my experience it does take seven minutes to boil a cup of water on a gas stove. Resistive electric is about half that time, induction is half of that. I’ve tested it with same amount of water in the same kettle. Gas stoves are garbage.
Electric kettles are very fast too.
Depends on what your power-delivery is.
European style: way more power aaaand more deadly :)
Us-Style, less power, (about 30% longer to boil a similar volume-kettle) and somewhat less deadly.
Gas-stove-style: most of your actuall power goes besides your pot and doesnt heat the water, some heats the handle, how fun.
US electric stoves are wired into higher power circuits. The stove built-in to the kitchen is just as powerful, though there are transmission losses heating the kettle.
Countertop kettles use less power here because of the plugs, and it takes about the same time as a resistive stove.
Gas stoves here have nozzles that shoot the flame from the center away from the pot you’re trying to heat. You have to choose between slow heating from a tiny flame, or slow heating from heating the air next to the kettle and the handle instead of the kettle itself.
Fun fact: electric kettles are nerfed in the US and other 110V countries (~1kW vs ~2kW of power usage)
Still faster than a gas stove tho
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We have stuff like NEMA 6-15 outlets in the USA, and there are other countries where 220v at 60hz is the norm – so it’s possible to get kettles designed for that.
Alternatively: for around the same price you could get an “instant hot” water heater installed under the sink and have dedicated tap for boiling hot water without any wait.
Mine is 1.5kW in Canada. But I often wish I could buy a UK one and hook it to my dryer outlet.
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When I was very young, I tried to make tea for the first time on my own by putting a mug full of water on the burner and turning the heat to the max. When I raised the mug, the bottom just came off and it spilled hot water all over the place. Thankfully I didn’t burn myself.
Oh my fucking god. So that’s what happens?
You guys don’t use Turkish Combustion Kettle to boil water?
Is it made out of a jet engine or something?
Are you supposed to precariously balance that kettle on top of that thrust nozzle?
Don’t be ridiculous, you pour water through the flame and collect steam in the upside-down mug.
That looks epic
Damn that’s some serious whistle
The best is that someone then took this exchange and made it into a Shakespeare script:
I know someone else drew it into a comic but I’m having trouble finding it.
I’m friends with enough experienced Shakespeare actors that I want to get them together and perform this.
That was magnificent.
This post stresses me out so much. Why is how people warm water such a tribalistic topic???
I did not choose to be part of the stove kettle tribe, I was born into it.
Did they suggest putting a mug full of water on the stovetop?? That’s so dangerous. Mugs are not meant for that kind of direct heat, and picking it up will be tricky too.
Yeah dont think ceramic mug would survive.
There are steel camping mugs that can go right on stove, I use one with big wire handle that you can pick it up with bare hand with boiling water
Yeah dont think ceramic mug would survive.
I mean if it’s proper ceramic it’s going to be very heat resistant because it’s literally clay that’s been fired in a kiln hot enough to melt glass. On the other hand the heat from the stove is going to be super uneven, regardless of resistive electric or gas (and of course induction will do jack all because there’s no metal for it to induce)
If I had mugs to waste I’d do an experiment for science but…I don’t want to be picking up broken ceramic in my kitchen this evening…
I grew up drinking orange pekoe tea from the time I was born. I’ve seen my mom prepare tea with milk and sugar in a baby bottle for my younger brothers so I can safely guess she did the same for me.
And we liked to make it strong! We’d have a giant metal pot that held about 2 liters of liquid, get it at a rolling boil, throw in eight tea bags and let it continue boiling for a minute until the liquid turned into coffee.
I left home when I was 20 to live in other parts of the country and I’ve never met anyone else that made tea properly.
I’ve seen people mildly heat water or microwave it.
The best one was a restaurant I used to go to for great breakfast … I asked for tea a few times because I’m always nostalgic for it. They always made shitty tea and I wondered why … until one day the waitress admitted to me that the hot water tap wasn’t so hot today and she didn’t know why … THEY USED HOT TAP WATER TO MAKE TEA!!!
This reminds me a little of butter tea, which is drank in Tibet and Central Asia.
Very neat … we actually have a survival drink we made with the things we got from Europeans. Old time hunters and trappers travelling in the wilderness would make a drink called ‘Tea Ploss’ … a mixture of making really strong, hot, boiling tea (usually over a camp fire) and then quickly mixing in flour, sugar and lard (all raw food items you got from the Hudson Bay Company).
It’s absolutely disgusting and I’ve tried it many times. My parents loved it but I think it was more nostalgic than anything. About the only time I ever enjoyed it was being out in the wilderness in the winter time, freezing cold, tired, hungry, worn out and sipping on this drink.
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Tea with milk and sugar in a baby bottle…?
But why? Do they want a cranky baby that doesn’t sleep?
My parents were old time hunters and trappers who were born in the wilderness … so they weren’t up to date with the latest pediatric recommendations at the time.
I’m sorry what? There’s a lot to unpack here
I’m indigenous Canadian and I’m the first generation in my family to be born in a modern hospital. My parents were born and raised in the wilderness and lived a very traditional nomadic life for about the first 30 years of their lives. They had a bit of education and they were very bright people but they had no understanding of many modern things … things like feeding a baby caffeinated drink. All they understood is that it was nutritious and filling.
And it didn’t do me any damage … I think?
I mean, the fact that you’re on here means you must be damaged a little. But damn that is an amazing backstory
Babies can’t process caffeine in the same way as adults. If anyone is reading this and thinks it’s a good idea to give your child black tea of any sort, you should absolutely wait until the kid is at least 10-12 yrs old… The kiddo will be absolutely wired and it negatively impacts their ability to sleep. Overall this is a very bad idea.
Edit: also refined sugar is a big no no for kids younger than 2 yrs old.
The water heater in my house can be set all the way to 85c and it’s right behind my kitchen tap, so it gets to that temperature within seconds. I’ve been wondering for a while if I could use it to just make tea instantly instead of putting the kettle on first, especially since I’ve read multiple times that 100c water is actually bad cause it can burn the tea leaves.
So far I haven’t been able to try it because of some circumstances, but I might in the future.
In the US there is sometimes sludge at the bottom of the water heater that collects. You shouldn’t drink hot tap water in the US.
That’s really gross what the hell
Pretty sure your not supposed to drink the tap water at all in a lot of places. I know my city sends a letter multiple times every year saying not to drink the tap water. Cookings fine thiugh :/
Apparently, don’t cook with it either:
Hot water dissolves lead more quickly than cold water and is therefore more likely to contain greater amounts of lead. Never use water from the hot water tap for drinking, cooking, or making baby formula.
https://www.epa.gov/lead/why-cant-i-use-hot-water-tap-drinking-cooking-or-making-baby-formula
It’s not just the lead, it’s heavy metals in general.
I just looked it up for my country and you’re right. They don’t recommend regularly drinking the hot water. There goes my experiment lol
faucets and secondary taps for sinks that can deliver filtered boiling or chilled (or even sparkling) water do exist.
This was an old time diner style highway restaurant … they were using the same hot water to make tea as they were using to wash the dishes
In my experiance, the water for washing dishes at resteraunts can get extremely hot, easily hot enough to burn you. I think the idea is that the heat helps steriloze the dishware and more easily break up the fats and oils. Ive never personally seen boiling water from a resteraunt tap, but i have seen water at about 175° which im guessing is around 80° C
Edit:79.4 degrees C, damn im good
I agree, restaurant tap water can be very hot … there is even a faucet in some places I’ve seen from coffee machines that can dispense hot water. But all of them fall just below the threshold of boiling water which is 100 degrees C.
Tea needs boiling water at least for a moment in order to brew properly. I don’t know the science of it … I just know from experience and having had tea all my life. If you place an orange pekoe tea bag in anything but boiling water, it will never steep properly. In any other heated water, orange pekoe tea just comes out bland and not as tasty. Like I mentioned in my early comments, my family used to throw tea bags into boiling water and let it stay in rolling boiling water for about 30 seconds and it immediately brews a potent mixture of dark red liquid that has as much caffeine as coffee.
The only other great sin to steeping tea is to place the tea bag in boiling water and immediately mix it all with milk - that guarantees a ruined steeped tea. You wait about five full minutes for the tea to steep before mixing anything with it.
I’ve been frustrated by friends and family all my life who didn’t grow up drinking tea because they’ll boil some water, leave the water sit for a minute or two until it cools off from 100C or even wait several minutes until it cools off to 80C and then try to make a cup of tea. It drives me nuts when they serve me luke warm tea and then pour in a bit of milk into it all and everything turns white.
As you might have guessed … I love my tea.
Have you ever heard of Labrador tea?
Absolutely … I’ve never met anyone outside of the northern communities who knew about it.
In our language we call it ‘KA-KEE-KEH-POO-KWA’ … I think the word stems from the word ‘KA-KEE-KEH’, which translates as ‘forever’ … because you can even find this plant frozen in the wilderness in the dead of winter and still make tea from it.
However, it makes a very weak mild tea … highly nutritious but it doesn’t taste like much. I got the bright idea one summer to make it extra strong and boiled a small bushel to make a dark tea. A more scientific friend of mine later warned me that the drink has to be mild because in stronger doses, it can be poisonous.
I like the flavor, maybe I make it too strong, I just put enough leaves to cover the bottom of my tea strainer/brewer thing. I like the flavor.
If you wanna try something flavorful and no caffeine, try the Aveda tea. Brew it hot, but drink it lukewarmish. Somehow it tastes much better cooler.
Poisonous flower, hmm? Id be willing to bet its related to the nightshade family even though there are a ton of poisons that are not
Have you ever had sun tea? You get a clear glass container, preferably the kind with a nozzle for dispensing drinks from, then you fill it with water and load it up with a bunch of tea bags, maybe 10 per gallon(?), then you close the lid and set it somewhere in direct sunlight in the morning on a hot summer day. By mid afternoon you can take the tea bags out and put the tea container in your refrigerator.
It’s just as dark as regular tea, but it has a smoother flavor. Typically you drink it iced, since it’s a summer drink for hot days.
How to make bacterial soup 101
You drink it within a day or 2, before it can grow a significant amount of bacteria.
Yeah I learned that the hard way washing my hands at my buddies house one time in the kitchen.
giant metal pot
2 liters
Everyone in this entire thread is hearby banned from entering the UK.
Don’t worry, they’re not missing much, though if things get a bit dicy here, we may need to capture these folks and put them in the stocks to unite the country around a common enemy.
I just gotta say it does not take three minutes for a microwave to heat water
depends on the wattage and the amount of water
It takes 3 minutes for me as well
My electric kettle boils 2 cups in 2 minutes.
then you got something wrong with your microwave, they literally work by heating the water molecules in the food
It all comes down to the wattage and how much water you are trying to boil. A 900W microwave takes about 2½ minutes to boil 300 ml of water. And thats without needing to heat the mug.
Like… for 700W microwave it’s about 50% efficiency. Don’t know any other device this efficient in my house
Tea. Earl Grey. Cold?
As a matter of fact, Earl Grey makes for a very interesting iced tea. You might combine it with straight black or green tea to dampen the flavor, but in any case, it has kind of a strong, flowery taste that makes for a nice variation.
You can of course brew it cold overnight, if you’re really in to the whole ‘cold’ angle.
You might combine it with straight black or green tea to dampen the flavor
Add chicory/barley coffee, cinnamon and muscat, optionally guarana/guyausa, and you get something that tastes like coffee but lasts multiple times longer, is healthier and doesn’t destroy rainforest.
lasts multiple times longer
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Caffeine/stimulating effect.
Pretty funny to complain about how long it takes to boil water when it would take way longer to cold-brew tea.
Let’s talk about it again in summer.
I’m not much for iced tea, homemade iced tea isn’t popular here anyway. And I’m definitely a “cold coffee” person.
Sun tea takes a few hours at least.
You’re assuming they’re doing a good job making cold tea and not just drinking lightly flavored cold water.
You can leave cold brew in the fridge and it’s ready when you want it. For hot drinks, you need to heat up the water, so that’s extra time between when you decide you want tea and when it’s ready for consumption.
Counterpoint: I actually like cold drinks quite a bit, e.g. cooled-down coffee with lots of cold milk, but I rarely have the patience to actually plan for that.
I’m used to stoves taking at least ten minutes just to warm up
The nice thing about gas stoves is they get hot instantly. I now have an induction stove and it’s a lot slower.
Something is wrong with your stove.
Every study I’ve seen comparing gas and induction stoves shows induction stoves boiling water more quickly. Have you measured it?
Edit: Are you thinking of electric or induction? They’re different.
I have measured it. I have to change my coffee preparation technique depending on the stove.
On resistive or radiant electric stoves, I turn the heat on under the kettle, then grind the coffee add the filter. The water reaches a boil in about the time it takes to do those tasks.
With induction I have to turn on the stove last because its just too fast.
Gas is by far the worst and involves waiting around for minutes for the water to get anywhere close to temperature.
I measured my water on a scale, and timed how long it took for to boil water for my morning coffee. Same water, same kettle. It was a while back, but as I recall it was around 8m to boil on gas, about 4m to boil on electric. Resistive or radiant made no noticeable difference, and induction took around 2m.
Why do people praise has for being so quick to get hot then? I guess maybe for more precise things?
Because they’re ignorant? I mean, the flame is hot, but it has shit thermal mass and takes far longer to heat anything with mass.
A stove should have range. Boiling water is testing the top of the range. Gas is also worse at simmering. Resistive electric delivers much more consistant low heat than gas.
So gas is the worst at the top, but also, it excels at being the worst at the bottom.
exactly
Induction doesn’t need to get hot, it heats up the pot directly. Maybe you’re referring to electric heaters? The ones that glow red/purple?
Fuck gas stoves. Takes more than twice as long to boil water compared to induction.
In my experience its twice as long as resistive electric, which is twice as long as induction. Gas is 4 times slower in my testing.
I was just being hyperbolic. But yeah gas is slow as fuck
Please give details on your testing because your results are completely opposite from everyone else’s.
What planet are you on? The different atmosphere might be a clue.
I think I just flipped gas and induction in my head as I was reading what they said, whoops
Not sure what thread you’re reading, but I’ve only seen comments that agree with my results.
I think I had a massive brain fart/dyslexic moment
Yeah my induction can boil a cup of water in like a minute, minute and a half.
You might have hotplates just like me. It’s electric but my god does it suck ass. I wish I had induction tops
Buying an electric kettle, prob one of my better decisions.
