- cross-posted to:
- [email protected]
You must log in or # to comment.
Never seen anoyone rank brave alongside or even above standard firefox.
No Mull?
Stop sharing and platforming the nazi
Also, this tierlist sucks fucking balls
This is a random screenshot he used in hos video for roughly 2 seconds. This is not his tierlist.
Not of his. This is a known widespread tierlist made by other person (I do not remember if this came from Reddit, a YT video or what, but it is well known)
Brave 🤮
I’ve looked into it and it’s not even his tier list, just one he found online.
Just because PewDiePie switched to Linux doesn’t mean we should listen to his browser recommendations
not his recommendations
True but he’s sparking more interest in FOSS so that’s still a good thing. I doubt his advice is perfect but if it gets more people started onto their own journey it’s a win.
You’re right about that, I was moreso saying that his crappy browser tier list isn’t worth sharing
Very true, I feel like people miss the point of his own experience and/or opinion
People on Lemmy seem to be Pewdiepie bootlickers. Idk why but it’s really weird. Apparently you can do whatever but as long as you promote Linux, Lemmy will love you. Ridiculous.
Brave is a series scam company.
Exactly I’d even use Chrome before I’d ever touch Brave.
Would you mind giving some context? Ive never used Brave, but my dad does. In which sense is it a “scam”? Would want him to switch if its terrible
People care more about CEO’s opinion on politics and hate Web3 crypto more than they understand technical browser stuff.
Brave is far from perfect and the company had their contreveries but honestly if you disable all the cryptocrap and tweak it a tiny bit so it does not show you ads and feature you don’t use it is the best chromium browser in regards to security and privacy.
Ungoogled chromium by default can’t even compare, it’s not crap but brave does so much more than it’s better for the vast majority of users.
Good summary! Thank you!
And yet it uses less RAM in Android phones compared to my goat, Firefox… Man FF needs a lot of improvements, all my complaints come from Android, the browser is perfect even on macOS!
Firefox still doesn’t support tab groups on mobile. That’s a non-starter for me. Hopfully Ladybird has their shit better put together than mozilla when they finally release their browser
I haven’t heard about that browser, it seems that it does its own thing, IDK man, if FF that has years in the market and still hasn’t caught up, I have no big hopes for “new” projects.
brave search otoh is pretty gud. I believe they even do their own indexing.
Firefox is a monopoly’s pet
all hail lynx
Real experts browse the web by email
Is there anything emacs cannot do?
Edit text
- vim users
sed has left the chat
Y’all are seriously still using the internet?
AFAIK it hasn’t been used as an OS yet (meaning init - the thing you start after bootloader). Or a bootloader
Right?
Richard Stallman style!
My brain read this to the tune of Gangnam Style
Bracing a pedophilia and necrophilia sympathiser as your hero smh
Making a joke about a ridiculous habit is hardly making someone a hero.
Ngl, feel like his tier list is based on usability while avoiding big tech.
Tbh even if this tierlist is not the best or great, it still is “good enough”. Plus the most important thing is to get tons of people interested.
I rather have “good enough” tier list that reaches to millions of people, then have a perfect tierlist that only reaches out to less than a dozen people.
Because amongst the millions of people who are interested, thousands of them will do their own research into privacy and dig deeper into it.
Plus right now, the biggest weakness of privacy is the fact that our community is too small to make an impact.
Having someone give this much outreach and influence to attract attention towards privacy is a good thing. (well, as long as their advice are on the positive end of the spectrum, and pewdiepie’s advise surely is, even if its not perfect)
Sir, this is 2025, we don’t do nuanced opinions here anymore.
What exactly has he done to warrant considering this? He’s a yt star, not a privacy expert.
tits no his list
Somehow even less useful, since the source can’t even be verified.
He’s been getting into FOSS and privacy lately
So explicitly not an expert.
Yeah but he was never claiming to be. I don’t think he made any direct recommendations in the video.
Just him documenting his own journey de-googling.
My point is it serves no purpose here.
I know it’s been said, but Brave is a hard no. Replace it with Ungoogled Chromium. I haven’t seen the video so I don’t understand why it’s in the “not ideal for a normal human” list, and I am biased since I use plenty of “not for normal” tools.
I believe its this: https://lemmy.world/post/32106925/17916457
Ppl focusing on the negative. It’s just his subjective list. He doesn’t claim to be an expert. Lemmy autism peaking here. More exposure to foss is good guys
I couldn’t care less about what this character says.
that is not his list, just a random screenshot.
Yeah i just checked the video and it appeared for like 2 seconds as a side note. He never even tried Brave apparently.
probably just his editor put it for the video
Brave? Hard no. Vivaldi? Also no.
Also, where are qutebrowser and Zen?
qutebrowser and IceCat are real top of the game when it comes to privacy. But then, they break some of the sites functionality, especially IceCat who seems to be going under the “if your site doesn’t work, it’s your site’s problem” motto.
Which is honestly fair? Like, i would enjoy a “unsafe site, access anyways?” button, but if privacy settings break a page that literally is the pages fault for not respecting privacy.
Edit: typo
Kinda, but I would like to tailor my experience a bit more than “all or nothing”.
IceCat is directly a GNU project, so it’s highly ideological - which is important and respectable in a way, but then it gets adoption to near-zero because most sites just don’t work out of the box, and to make it work properly means completely removing all safeguards that make IceCat make sense. There’s little in between.
I’d rather have something like LibreWolf, but without phone-home functionality, or at least a switch to turn it off. Out of all Firefox forks I know, only IceCat respects user privacy in this way - 0 connections on startup, and then only connection to actual site and whatever it requires.
Opt-in telemetry (ideally - leveled) and manual bug information sending are totally fine, though.
What’s bad about Vivaldi?
It’s proprietary
The UI is as far as I know proprietary
Nothing in the browser should be proprietary. Any proprietary part is a possibility of malice, and browsers are mission critical.
I don’t disagree with that. It’s just that most browsers are built that way, unfortunately. Nothing is free, not even Firefox. If you want to sell it, it’s hard to maintain reasonable expectations that people won’t just build it from source instead of buying it. Something 100% free can’t maintain itself over long time.
Firefox is open source, and while it takes some shady practices to fund it (it sure isn’t cheap to run your own damn engine alongside everything on top), I take it as a more tenable compromise. It’s not about free as in beer freedom, it’s about basic security.
You can also have degoogled Chromium which is open-source if you’re into it.
Even EDGE is a ungoogled Chromium (but containing M$ tracking APIs instead). Vivaldi IS a degoogled Chromium, a small part of the UI (by far the most advanced one of any other browser) is proprietary, but not really obfuscated, they show even in the support forum how the user can modding it, if for him isn’t enough what he can do in the most complete setting page ever, the only thing is, you can’t use it for other browser projects. It’s certainly not a privacy or security issue.
Chromium as is, is 100% FLOSS but because of this isn’t more private or secure as a proprietary soft, FLOSS isn’t automaticly synonym of privacy and security, a lot of people confuse it, it’s not the propósit of OpenSource, privacy and security of an soft depends only of the intentions of the developer or company, not if their soft is OSS or not. The user can audit the soft, which in any case is needed if he don’t want or be able to check millons of lines in the code which a complex soft like a browser engine has.
