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    I know I’ve been thinking about my purchases more and going for the alternative choice instead of what I used to buy, I’m not giving the Yanks any of my money

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        Jon Stewart’s latest podcast. Buttigieg is trying to line himself up to be that guy.

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          Well, gross because he’s not even close to that guy. He was one of the candidates who was against Medicare for all. That’s like step 1, the most fundamental thing to be progressive in this day and age.

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            The piece that needs to be spoken loudly and often is the hospital system shrinks and nears collapse without Medicare and Medicaid. Those 2 things fund over 50% of hospital income. Think about that for a minute.

            What dies first? Rural and critical access. The little places that transfer out to a larger metro hospital when you need surgery. Statistically, specialists and surgeons gather around metro locations where Level 1 and most Level 2 are located. Look up your closest hospital. If it’s Level 3 or 4, or labeled as critical access, it will be in trouble. Those hospitals rely even more on Medicare and Medicaid income to stay alive. In fact Medicare may provide subsidy to hospitals considered critical access.

            What dies second? Mother/Baby, NICU, labor and delivery. The hospital units involving childbirth are all loss leaders in the hospital product line. Surgery and speciality income cover those costs.

            What dies third? Jobs. Layoffs will ensue, from supply runners to nurses. I can’t imagine hospitalist staff (attending, in house, generalist doctors) won’t be cut to bare bones as well. Patients will be more unsafe due to less staff in general, those who are able to drive 100mi for services.

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            Yup. If you can’t stand up and enthusiastically declare that you support Medicare 4 All as a fundamental right, then shut the fuck up, you’re part of the problem.

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            Has he indicated that he’s come around on that issue at all? Or still just as against it

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            Corporate media is 100% working to make people who think alternative media is pod save, believe he is that guy.

            Pete doesn’t get to be a candidate until he wins a federal election. Straight up. No candidate who haven’t won a race at SOME Federal level or very high (state Governerships count).

            You need to show you can win elections. The only election Pete was to be a small town mayor. He was awarded for the ratfucking of progressives in 2020 with a cabinet position. And its like. Fine. But go win an election Pete, a real one. Where more than 30k votes are cast.

            He’s the democratic equivalent of Marco Rubio.

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          Buttigieg is well spoken and smart. He’s occasionally, slightly left of (US) center.

          I also think Buttigieg is out to help one person—Pete Buttigieg. Every interview of him that I’ve heard sounds like he’s got a vision, not for the country or humanity, but a vision for Pete Buttigieg. Especially, for Pete Buttigieg to be President.

          He gives some great speeches. He’s sharp and slaps back at MTG and her ilk very effectively. And, I don’t think he’s a Newsom who will pander to bigots.

          But, I can’t shake the feeling that his motives are entirely egocentric.

          Now, you can argue that almost every politician has the same drawback and you’d probably be correct. He might be better than most Democrats. He might be the best option. Still, something doesn’t sit right with me.

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            I don’t think Pete is the next FDR but if he becomes it and improves the lives of millions of people I wouldn’t care about his motivations. If his selfishness/ego drove him to improve America then I’m okay with that.

            But like I said I doubt that will happen.

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            Lol, yes. Maybe I read it wrong. It was one of the less stressful discussions of late. He says right things. But I don’t buy that the DNC can reform itself with any of the old players.

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      Well they could’ve arrested the bastard in January 2021 instead of waiting a couple years to even start considering legal consequences. 5 minutes after the inauguration Trump should’ve had a black bag over his head. No excuses for their inaction.

      The Democrats aren’t the party perpetrating this evil, but they’ve done everything in their power to enable it, thus they share responsibility.

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        No, you see, they allowed foreign brown people to die on their watch, which is obviously worse than checks notes deporting local brown people with the intent to harm as well?

        /s, just in case someone finds this comment a year later.

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      They made the economy bad by spending too much money toward Ukraine.

      … or something.

      Anyway, time to occupy Gaza, invade Panama, buyout Greenland, maybe invade Canada, ramp up strikes on the Houthis, and leak the group chat planning said strikes…

      oh, and goad China into an an unprecedented trade war, as they are doing full scale drills/mock invasions of Taiwan.

      But its fine because Trump will end the Ukraine war on day one and is therefore the peace candidate.

      … I swear to god I’d have to be beaten in the head with hammers and develop CTE to be operating on the same mental wavelength as Trump scrotum suckers.

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      It’s not their fault, but they definitely chose to prioritize supporting a genocide above pleasing their most fervent base.

      They had polling data for months showing the impopularity of it and the low polling numbers. We all saw the polling data.

      They broke what many considered to be an election promise in 2020 that Biden would be a one term. And they robbed their voters of an open primary, most likely because they knew a progressive populist would easily beat Harris. Harris has never appealed to a broad audience.

      But even so, Harris got an enormous boost when she replaced Biden. All she had to do was distance herself from his unpopular positions. She should have criticized Biden on inflation and working class income stagnation. She should have let a Palestinian talk at the DNC. She should have met Arab Americans in Dearborn. And she should have voiced criticism on Netanyahu to get the hostages home and stop the killing. Heck, even Biden had more class when handling upset protestors.

      But she dropped the ball on all those important issues.

      It’s political incompetence and a sell-out to corporate interests.

      I’m sure that someone more savvy like Pete Buttigieg would have easily beaten Trump.

      But still, it’s not their fault. Everything Trump is doing is his fault.

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        You analysis is spot on.

        Harris threw away an easy layup. Trump was as unpopular as Biden when Biden dropped out.

        And the Democratic machine couldnt make a W happen because they are owned by AIPAC. They would have had to call the genocide for what it was.

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          Not sure I still understand the reasoning that some how wants to allow the non-voters to not own up to their mistake. If both parties were the same on the same issue of Palestine then that’s an issue that cancels each other out, I am not saying this is not atrocious from both parties because it is. But the rest of Pro’s should have been more then enough to warrant an effort from the non-voters to make an effort to save their democracy, rights and freedom.

          I have seen it time and time again after the election, “iT’s tHe MeSsAgInG”. If sound reasoning and logic was applied the red flags were very loud from the Trump camp that what he is visiting upon the US is what was going to be expected if he won. So no, I will always tell those non-voters that their inaction is what helped cause all of this and by a large factor.

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            I don’t think Gaza issue was the deciding factor in the election, it’s all the other stuff she should focus on.

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            It’s exasperating to have both: a) warned, extensively and explicitly, with detailed analysis and specific examples—not just months, but years in advance—that the Democrats’ 2024 strategy was failing; and b) to have to keep explaining, over and over, to people who think they understand how things ‘should’ have gone, that Democrats did campaign exactly as they claim—and lost dramatically as a result.

            Look you caught the bull by its horns, but I want you to bear with me. You think “some thing” about electoralism; and its one that wasn’t borne out by reality.

            Is it the thing which is wrong or you and your thinking? You wanted the election, the electorate, electoralism itself, to be something other than what it was: If you (and Democrats in general) keep approaching elections in this manner, we will never win another election.

            You can either meet the moment and find voters where they are at, hear their issues, address them or say how you’ll address them, and ask them to join your cause, or you can continue to tell them that they are wrong for what they think and do, and they better vote for you or else they’ll get the fascist.

            Which do you think grows a base and which one shrinks a base?

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              I still fail how this lesson is not something that the voter base themselves need to learn as well. Again I feel that the retrospective is being pushed to much on to the Democratic party and not the non-voters themselves. I mean the difference between the Democratic and Trump campaign was not just a slight difference of policies. We are talking the Trump campaign was loud and proud with their racist and fascists remarks.

              If the Trump campaign was better and louder at the messagng then why was his messaging in of itself not enough to motivate the voters?

              The two biggest issues for non-voters was 1) Gerrymandering (they felt their vote did not matter), 2) Kamala was not compelling enough with a side note of Palestine also being part of this.

              Both of which the Republicans are for point 1) to blame and for point 2) way worse with Palestine being equal on.

              But sure I guess blame the Democratic party because they did not nail it 100% while the other guy was like Hitler lite throughout his campaign. If the non-voters do not have the balls to own up to their play in this then you lessons have not been learnt and there is a good probability it will be repeated. Provided of course you get a chance at another fair election.

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                I guess you just want to keep not getting it then. Cus what you are doing, how you are thinking, acting, talking: Its why we lost the election.

                You don’t get it. But you also don’t want to get it. You want to be “right” but your approach to politics has lost the popular cause of the people, and just, objectively loses elections.

                You can either “be right”, on your own terms, or you can win elections. You can’t have both.

                Here is the biggest hint of your lifetime: Democrats losing elections has nothing to do with Republicans.

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                  I still fail to see your point tbh, thank you for sharing it though. I do always enjoy trying to change my perspective. For me though it just feels as if the non voters are essentially passing the blame on and not taking accountability for the shit show they find themselves in now.

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      Imagine holding onto this. Yes, this wouldn’t be happening under a democratic regime. But surely you recognize they are making just as much money here, right??? Schumer bitched out for a reason. As long as they get paid, the status quo continues.

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      If they held an actual primary, where voters could democratically choose their candidate, then neither of them would have made it to the election and we could have enthusiastically voted in a better leader.

      Instead, we were told to accept the chosen corporate shill or face the annihilation of our system of government. At this point many voters just gave up, and it showed with lower turnout for both parties compared to the previous election.

      Democrats, especially Biden and Kamala, failed by not ensuring the bare minimum of democracy was preserved for this election.

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      “The Great Depression produced the Greatest Generation, and we’re going to do it again!” -HitlerPig, to wild applause from MAGA Morons.

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      America has never been truly great, it has just had the potential to be. But every minute of America’s existence has included systematic exploitation and/or genocide of one group or another - Native Americans, slaves, black Americans, non-Christian religions, women, children, immigrants, workers, the poor, etc.

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      Ah yes, 1950, when America was the only massively industrialized nation in the world that hadn’t been bombed into fucking oblivion during WW2, and therefore dominated the global economy by default.

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      This graphic is so pointless. It’s extreme stupidity. Or, at best, extreme volatility for obvious reasons. Lots of other options across the whole “spedometer.”

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        so pointless …. at best, volatility for obvious reasons.

        I believe you just described “the point.”

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            Sorry, I meant the point of the graph is to highlight the market’s impetus: selfishness.

            Specifically, it casts investor sentiment in a negative light, where “feeling bullish” translates to “feeling greedy” and anything else is loss aversion/fear.

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        https://www.investopedia.com/terms/f/fear-and-greed-index.asp

        The Fear & Greed Index is not just some bullshit chart, with arbitrary values, it is an index of 7 different indicators, all based on real data, all indexed together, that is to say, blended by a another formula that determines how much weight to give to each of the 7 constituent indicators.

        The Fear & Greed Index Indicators

        The index is based on seven underlying indicators:

        Stock Price Momentum: A measure of the S&P 500 versus its 125-day moving average (MA).

        Stock Price Strength: The number of stocks hitting 52-week highs versus those hitting 52-week lows on the New York Stock Exchange (NYSE).

        Stock Price Breadth: Analyzing the trading volumes in rising stocks against declining stocks.

        Put and Call Options: The extent to which put options lag behind call options, signifying greed, or surpasses them, indicating fear.

        Junk Bond Demand: Measures the spread between yields on investment-grade bonds and junk bonds.

        Market Volatility: The CBOE’s Volatility Index (VIX) based on a 50-day MA.

        Safe Haven Demand: The difference in returns for stocks versus treasuries.

        It is presented as a speedometer… because 95% of people’s eyes glaze over when they see complicated but very technically information dense graphs and graphics.

        I have a decade of work experience in data analysis and reporting, making things like quarterly and annual reports for a department or entire corp or non profit, making realtime views that update based on realtime or regularly reported data…

        You have to dumb things down and simplify things … and often present data in a narrative structure, as a story, even for C Suite, upper management, the Board… because they almost always have a very low attention span.

        I cannot tell you the number of times a younger, brighter eyed, bushier tailed me was… fairly politely and earnestly told by VPs or Board members that… its clear that I have a broad and deep understanding of statistics and data… but you’ve got to dumb these reports down to the point someone with a hangover can understand the most important information in 30 seconds.

        Only other data nerds, stats nerds and accounting tend to possess the actual ability to read more complex charts without their eyes glazing over.

        This speedometer presentation by CNN is pretty much the same logic used in good UI or video game design:

        If some complex measurement is important and should be easily understood by the user at a glance, present that info in a simplified way that makes use of a visual metaphor or motif is rooted in something most people would have tangible experience with.

        They are presenting this for the average American reader.

        The average American has the literacy level of a 5th or 6th grader.

        Also, it would be innacurate to describe this index as just measuring volatility.

        Volatility is a component of the measurement, but there are many other components as well… that is what an indexed metric is, a single overall ‘score’ produced by combining a bunch of indicators according to a set formula for how to do that.

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          I believe you, but having never encountered this index or representation before. I have no fucking clue what it’s trying to tell me. Is it showing whether the public is fearful of the economic momentum or feeling greedy? Greed doesn’t seem like a good thing.

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            It is not a measure of public sentiment.

            That’d be like a consumer confidence measure, something that just polls the general public.

            The fear and greed index is based off of technical measurements of various active markets.

            Very broadly, it is telling you whether or not the financial class, investors, stock traders, corporations significantly involved in that, your 401k managers… are acting fearful or greedy.

            A middling score close to 50 basically represents ‘reasonable, stable growth’.

            Extreme fear means market participants are acting like a significant stock/bond downturn either is occuring or about to occur.

            Extreme greed means market participants are acting like a huge upswing in stocks and bonds are occuring and will be maintained in the future.

            You’re right that extreme greed isn’t a good thing, as it usually means a whole bunch of irresponsible financial bets are being made, that will later pop, and crash.

            At the same time, extreme fear is also bad… because it basically is that crash occuring.

            Maybe think of it kind of like some value you get back from your blood work.

            There’s a generally accepted ‘average’ value that means you are stable, healthy.

            Then, there is a range of higher and lower values that are… relatively normal, within reasonable, expected variations.

            Then, there are extreme values, way outside the acceptable range, either way too high or way to low, and now its time for your doctor to start looking at treatment options.

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              I hope this doesn’t come off as being snarky because I’m trying to give genuine advice from the audience you’re probably trying to target but it’d be a good idea to include this bit anytime you’re presenting that graphic:

              The fear and greed index is based off of technical measurements of various active markets.

              Very broadly, it is telling you whether or not the financial class, investors, stock traders, corporations significantly involved in that, your 401k managers… are acting fearful or greedy.

              It does a good job of summarizing what I’m supposed to gather from the index.

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                It doesn’t come off as snarky at all, no worries!

                Genuienly… Like, I myself am autistic, and I’m willing to bet a whole lot of other data scientist type technical data sets type careerists either are as well, or are close.

                What I’m trying to say is: It is genuienly difficult to be both well versed enough in the math and data… and at the same time have the requisite communication skills to present a whole lot of complex data in a way that people with less expertise can understand easily… while also at the same time not over generalizing so much that you are actually giving a just flat out false description or misleading metaphor.

                I appreciate your summary of what I wrote in the last post.

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    shocking damage has been inflicted on the ussa in only a few months, wonder what it will look like after 4 years