Jesus had absolutely nothing to say about gay people. He had an awful lot to say about hypocrisy.
Jesus had absolutely nothing to say about gay people.
Indirectly. By affirming the old testament, Jesus of the Bible condemned the act of sodomy (the act perpetrated by the people of Sodom and Gomorrah).
New testament says:
Think not that I have come to abolish the law and the prophets; I have come not to abolish them but to fulfil them. (Matthew 5:17 RSV)
So let’s look at what “the law” according to the Bible says:
Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; it is an abomination. (Leviticus 18:22)
In other words, according to Christianity, gay people are sinners for having sex with each other.
as is everyone for being born.
From a Pro-Bush, Anti-Clinton person I know, they have a bigger issue with Clinton lying about getting a blowjob then they do the blowjob itself. Well, that’s the mental gymnastics he tells himself. Trump was a bridge too far for this guy though.
One of the tenants of right wing ideology is to use all your tools at your disposal, regardless of hypocrisy.
To a right winger, it’s the leftist’s fault for impeaching Clinton even though he was on their team.
The GOP was rabidly attacking Clinton from Day One. Travelgate was supposed to be an impeachment level offense and we’re still hearing about the death of Vince Foster. If they’d shut up the Monica scandal might have taken him down, but years of crying wolf backfired.
Actually, with Trump being friendly with Obama, and Marcon, and threatening to attack Panama, Canada, Mexico, and Greenland, I think God has moved on and isn’t using Trump anymore. The spending cuts are good though. I’m keeping my eyes peeled to see who God starts using next. Don’t think that because Christians endorse a man, they won’t drop him as soon as God moves. God can use someone for their entire life, or just for a season.
A guy that got his dick sucked behind his wife’s back is the devil incarnate but a guy that has been through multiple wives, paid a porn star to keep quiet, sexualized his daughter, and literally raped someone is the savior.
Makes sense if your brain is scrambled I guess.
Tbf the Clintons are evil as fuck, just because republicans and evangelicals attack them, don’t mean I’m gonna defend their shady asses
I live in a right wing area. It’s not mental gymnastics. It’s propaganda. Trump does something completely horrible and the right wing Podcasters and news people spin it in a way that convinces these people it was all for a reason or that somehow it’s not true or something. They are being brainwashed. Its very disturbing because it just shows me that they can be convinced of anything as long as it supports Trump. Trump can literally do anything at this point and I think his people would convince everyone it’s all good or for the right reasons. That’s why I think ij the end if canada doesn’t back down and become the 51st state by choice, he will attack us.
Like, Clinton did come on to one of his staffers. Ms. Lewinsky was very much wronged by him (though the American people and media may have done her worse), but for some fucking reason the thing that was bad about what he did was never the controversy. It’s clear they’re just mad he’s a democrat.
Trump is utterly reprehensible, but hes their guy so he’s clearly a god king
I remember my father being so angry about Clinton that the veins in his neck and face were bulging. He thought Clinton should be hanged, at the time, for adultery and betraying the country.
Now this fat orange fuck is worshiped. I will never understand how they fell for this. The moral compromise needed to support a clown show.
I will never understand how they fell for this.
They fell for nothing. This is the expression of their evil nature, full stop.
If anything you’re falling for their act! Stop assuming decency or rational self interest is at work in the math they do, it isn’t.
Oh good grief, of course they fell for it. Not that I don’t blame them for it. However, they absolutely fell for a con. To say otherwise is immature or unrealistic black and white thinking.
I’m angry with them, will likely never trust or respect them again. They’re humans just like we are, they aren’t acting, they aren’t completely indecent, and so on.
Just because the fascist side dehumanizes its enemies doesn’t mean we should. It’s also not very effective when you’re trying to predict what they’ll do and how they’ll react. You have to be able to understand the minds of your antagonists to effectively counter them.
Honestly? No part of you thinks that they might just have a darker side that you’re uncomfortable contemplating exists? If so then you are far more optimistic about the human condition than I am. Not disagreeing with your assessment; you obviously know them. I’m just pessimistic that a contradiction of morality of such magnitude can inhabit a single person’s mind. It seems impossible to me to arrive at such conclusions and not have walked down some truly dark, evil paths.
Heart of Darkness and all that? I feel like I’m pretty good at reading people, continue to get better at it. Most people, on an interpersonal level, are good. There are evil people, sociopathic or narcissistic, I usually notice them by their weird affect. Not all the sociopaths are necessarily evil, you just can’t trust them.
Average people don’t usually try to hurt people they know. They will be lazy in their thinking, they’ll hurt people they know through selfishness, average people can do bad things. However, everyone is the hero of their own story. For the most part, people believe they are good and doing good.
Anyhow, part of what makes this so painful is seeing good people get twisted by the propaganda. For instance, the subsurface racism, most of these people were ashamed of their racist views. The racism was exploited and used to short circuit around logic. I watched my grandfather go from a kind and gentle man to using the N-word and spewing Hannity talking points.
So, I blame average people, I think they were mostly good. They fell for an obvious con, chose to listen to the darker parts of their nature instead of using logic. Does that make them evil now? IDK, maybe. Propaganda is a hell of a drug. They were weak. They probably aren’t ever coming back.
Stupid people are easy to manipulate.
Many of these aren’t stupid people. That’s a cop out we tell ourselves to feel superior. Willful ignorance is closer to the truth.
I’m not saying that the people running the party are stupid. But the ones falling for their shit are just plain stupid.
Smart people fall for lies, cons, and cults all the time - it is foolish to believe anyone is immune to such things because they’re “too smart”.
They’re not all stupid. Again, that’s a comforting lie we tell ourselves. I’ve personally known engineers, a Colonel, a cabinet maker, and C-suite execs that have all gone down the rabbit hole. They have willfully drank down the propaganda and are willfully ignorant but not all of these people are stupid.
they do whatever the ultra wealthy tell them to do.
ideology is not a functional concept in modern politics. it’s all vibes and manipulation in the service of the 1%
Many have referenced Nineteen Eighty-Four without reading it, and ironically then engaging in Doublethink.
I mean, at a high level, I guess so. At human level where these are real people with relationships and thoughts and feelings, it is mind blowing.
Some of them now approve of everything they stood against. Whatever the propaganda that got them there, it’s wild. These are people that I respected and thought had wisdom and they have fallen for such a shallow con.
Some of them now approve of everything they stood against.
Sounds like a cult.
Cults wish they had this kind of power and reach. I agree that it has cult like characteristics, but it tolerates divergent ideology as long the orange fucker is venerated. I can’t decide if it’s something new or is regular old fascism, I lack the historical background to know.
i sounded kinda cynical but I actually agree with your sentiment, on a more personal level. i have several friends whose families have been split apart (actual people moving away and excommunicated) as a result of the cult like obedience conservatives have tapped into. loyalty to television personalities over actual living breathing grandkids and siblings. truly mind blowing.
the systematic brainwashing of many people using ragebait, disinformation, and targeted messaging has revealed a deep corruption in the media ecosystem and shown us how easily many of us can be convinced of opposite views we once held sacred. there’s a principal in psychology called “belief change blindness” which essentially shows that rather than admit we were wrong, we change our minds and just forget that it happened, instead creating an internal narrative that we’ve always believed the thing we currently believe.
im convinced that the most successful political operatives in modern times have weaponized our own psychological weaknesses against us, knowingly, in the same way that game developers use rng loot drop mechanics to tap into gambling addiction reward centers.
I’m not going to rehash the horror of watching family and friends go down the rabbit hole. It’s a big ball of grief that comes in waves.
As to your supposition that psychological weaknesses were weaponized: I completely agree. I think historians will focus on it as evidence is available and time goes by, it will be considered obvious.
Clinton was in favor of abortion and women’s rights. As Trump is against both, he is ‘God working in mysterious ways’ and therefore should be seen as a sign of divine providence.
I wish I was joking.
Rs have always united in their club. Matt gates hire prostitutes that cool. Obama has a tan suit they flip out.
Michelle made a monkey noise talking with her daughter for laughs they proclaimed she’s unlady like. Meanwhile Melania has literally nudes and wears i dont care jackets.
I could go on but we know conservatives are united with no standards. It’s a super power at this point compared to left side that demands perfection.
If you are going to run a bland milquetoast status quo candidate every time, they have to be perfect to appeal to anyone. I can overlook a shady past if they promote truly leftist causes.
Hmm bland food or pile of trash. I think it’s an easy decision but evidence shows I am very much In the minority. Once the pile of trash has no chance of winning real progressives can split from the dems without getting torn apart for “splitting the votes” At the very least vote third party, the dnc chases voters. More third party votes will make them chase those voters. They keep going after gop folks cause they actually vote. Dumb strat I know but that’s seems to be reality.
Matt gaetz solicits sex with minors*
They called Michelle Obama a man. I don’t know why that pisses me off. Like, there’s nothing wrong with being a transgender man or anything. But like, she’s not. She’s a proud and beautiful woman. The fact that their own base doesn’t turn their backs on them for that tells me enough about them.
they didn’t call her a transgender man. they were insinuating she was a trans woman when they called her a man. deliberately “misgendering” her to be petty.
Meanwhile Melania has literally nudes
First First Lady whose pussy I can see on the internet.
Crickets from conservatives.
It’s just news and culture bubbles. Evangelicals don’t know that they’re supposed to be mad, so they aren’t. If Fox News told them to feel upset about trump doing trump things, it would take less than a week for the pitchforks to turn toward him.
Edit: just noticed the community. Nice lmao
Edit: just noticed the community. Nice lmao
Yea, since it became modless its turned into quite the parody lol the only posts that are upvote-positive are the memes LMAO
Far and away the most intellectually cohesive conservative space on the internet. Now if only we could improve [email protected]
I’m pretty sure someone was actually using OPs username on that community with a different instance lmao.
OP states elsewhere that admins have been helpful. Sucks to have someone so obsessed, but support is fantastic!
I’m doing my part!
Imagine Believing in Nothing
Hypocrisy is the foundation of the GQP platform.
It’s not hypocrisy.
“Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”
Instead of two adult women, there needs to be little girls there to make it more realistic…
to be fair Ivanka is an adult now and he still seems to want to fuck her
I think you’ve picked up some admirers:
cm0003 @lazysoci.al
cm0002 @lonestarlemmy.mooo.com
Yea lol, they’ve already been removed, they’ve been doing it for like a week now with other instances lmao
Admins have been amazing and responsive to it though, so that’s good
