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When we were picking a school district, we looked at school rating sites. But then we found out that those ratings are mostly a proxy for how white the school is.
So we switched to looking at school funding instead.
And uhhh… you’re not gonna believe this…
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It’s structural racism all the way down
The school district where I live straddles a wealthier, predominantly white area and a poor, predominantly black area. The idea when it was formed was because rich parents want good education for their kids, and contribute more taxes via bigger homes, the schools could provide better education to the poorer areas and over time help to improve the socioeconomic balance.
In reality, all the rich parents around us just send their kids to Catholic or charter schools, which fungus money from the school district which makes it unable to provide a decent education at all, screwing over the poorer area wise than if they had two different school districts (since the public schools need to have the capacity to in theory at year accept all the kids in the case none went to charter schools). Just more proof voucher programs are racism by another name.
See, I grew up in the era of the Gifted And Talented Program. You’d be in a neighborhood with a mix of kids and each kid would be evaluated to determine if they were a “GT” student. Then the GT students would be funneled into one set of classes and the Non-GT students would be funneled into another set of classes.
Take a wild guess what the economic and ethnic makeups of the GT v Non-GT classes were.
Don’t even get me started on gifted and talented. “He has no ability to focus on boring stuff, but he loves math and science. How about we let him avoid ever doing anything boring? I’m sure that’ll serve him well later in life.”
Yeah, I grew up in that era as well, and was one of the kids in middle school funneled into a GT class. I enjoyed it of course, but it for sure contributed to masking my ADHD until recently and that was a real kick in face.
It screwed me over in college because I wasn’t used to having to take notes or study. Suddenly I wasn’t able to pass just by showing up.
You’re not going to believe this
says most believable thing ever
I thought this comic was super racist and got confused about the upvotes. Then I read the comments.
I’m way too European for this shit.
Nah, I just thought it was sarcastic. Like the Segregation-Era average racist attitute of: “Oh, there’s not too many black people to taint the water supply” type of thing, and this comic is pointing out the racism, not being racist it self.
Then I read the comments and apparantly, it had something to do with funding.
I thought this comic was super racist
The comic is super racist.
Or more specifically, it’s pointing out the systemic racism in the United States.
Just replace white with non-Romani and there you go
Is this a problem in some EU countries? I never heard of it before.
Yep, you’ll run into it eventually.
If you’re on Mastodon I highly recommend giving Mekka Okereke a follow. His longer posts on racism in the USA were very eye opening. I’ve lived through most of what he discusses and some of it even surprised me.
If you have any issue or complaint about the USA, racism is almost certainly at the root of it. No public transit? Because it disproportionately hurts Black people. Bad public schools? Hurting Black people. No social safety nets, rampant health industry abuse, pollution, crumbling infrastructure, and on and on it will astound you how many bad things in America are bad just to spite Black people and regardless of the universal harm they do.
Is all of this really caused by racism? Or is it designed to hurt poor people, which are predominantely black due to racism?
I think therea a lot of little racism along the way that inadvertently affected whites as the middle class dwindled and the number of poor whites increased.
So, all rooted in racism, maintained by classism, I’d say.
In a country founded by white aristocratic slave-owners it should be no surprise that racism and classism are intertwined.
These are also all things that disproportionally affect the working class
Some of those things I could see a pattern as described. The exception for me is public transportation. It exists in urban areas with high diversity. But it doesn’t exist in the suburbs which are much more white. The rich suburbs, it doesn’t matter as everyone is driving a new Audi or whatever. But the poorer white suburbs are really a terrible place to live, you can’t go anywhere without a car, and most jobs don’t pay wages that accommodate housing, food and car expenses anymore. The cost increases have way outpaced wages. I know that affects urban life too, but at least they have access to buses etc.
Car centrism lobbied by oil and auto industries is very responsible for the laws and policies that forged this situation. But to assume it isn’t sieved through a racists filter as well is naive. The most popular public transport in America, New York, is a perfect example. There’s a subway, fast and frequent, highly convenient in a high density city. They have buses, awful and inefficient when deployed in a traffic adled city without priority lanes. There are black and Hispanic, and white neighborhoods. Guess who got what when the system was designed?
Rural America is a bit different, of course, but guess which communities get all the high capacity high speed highway projects and high frequency maintenance, and who gets stuck with small rural roads and zero maintenance or investment?
Excellent recommendation. Instant follow. Currently listening (Read Aloud for Firefox on Android) to one of his threads and it’s so good.
No public transit? Because it disproportionately hurts Black people
Why is that? Due to getting harassed by controllers?
Or are you just being sarcastic?
There are cities that have poor transit connectivity to certain areas because when the systems were designed those were black areas. Some places even ran highways through black neighborhoods to further segregate them from other areas.
Because access to public transport helps poorer communities.
And then as the other reply said, when transit networks were planned they would give black neighbourhoods less, if any, connectivity into the metro networks.
Mekka Okereke
posts on racism in the USA
Works at Google 😬
That’s gotta suck for him.
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If you’re implying I’m targeting him, I’m not. I’m saying it must suck for him that the company he works for went full bootlicker.
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Story time:
I live in philly (as in Philadelphia, PA, USA) and there was some chemical spill last year, they gave out an alert like
“Water is safe until 2PM” then minutes before 2PM, they issued another emergency alert saying “Water is safe until 11:59PM”
🤨 (kinda sus how they change words so quickly)
And on top of that, they said “There’s no need to buy bottled water”… sound familiar?
Remember covid and there was a whole “There’s no need to wear a mask” debacle in the US?
🤨 (yea nobody is gonna trust the government)
So… Everyone is just afraid, and brought every case of water they could find. Like the whole “Tri-State Area” just completetely empty of water. We got like 10 cases of water from a friend in NYC who bought it on our behalf, because my family is just extra paranoid.
Felt like Flint Michigan.
Nothing says thriving country like a major metropolitan city not having reliable, clean water.
Sad US Empire noises
…what? Am I just not racist enough to understand this?
Minority population centers tend not to get a lot of infrastructure funding compared their paler counterparts.
Ah, so the issue isn’t the in-house plumbing, but the plumbing leading to the house. Hence the “neighborhood” part.
Lead pipes have been illegal for in-house water plumbing for a very long time. Even older houses that were built before regulations have been replaced in almost every home in the USA.
It’s the buried infrastructure that has not been fully replaced, in part because cold, treated water does not leech lead into the supply very quickly. Part of the reason Flint became a disaster is that the city decided to switch from Lake Huron, which was treated and protected, to the Flint River, where the water needed to be treated at the Flint water treatment facility.
Unfortunately, the Flint water treatment facility was outdated and insufficient, and the Flint River was far more polluted and corrosive. The lower pH and contaminants dissolved lead from the pipes that were previously stable, and there were also dangerous levels of bacteria causing infections.
If the city had remained on the treated Lake Huron water supply, it probably would not have been noticed and the lead pipes would still be in use today (as they are in an alarming number of places today).
Tap water is perfectly safe to drink everywhere in the UK (except when there’s some temporary incident that gets fixed) regardless of who the consumers are, there are very strict regulations to follow regardless.
Surely it’s the same in any developed country, clean, safe water is a very important basic right that the populace would quickly riot over if it weren’t available. It’s water, after all.
Absolutely - but in the UK they don’t have neighbourhoods designed and built along ethnic lines. US city planning seems to be based around cars and segregation. It’s so hard to understand unless you’ve actually seen it in action. It’s worth remembering that the US invented apartheid, to all intents and purposes.
No. The cartoon only makes sense if you live in the US… which not everyone does.
Basically “black” neighbourhoods would - in all likelihood - have a lower standard of public utilities than the equivalent services in a “white” neighbourhood.
It’s like racism hard-baked into the city. Whack.
No. The cartoon only makes sense if you live in the US… which not everyone does.
Canada too, embarrassingly.
While there has been progress in recent years, there are still 31 long term drinking water advisories on 29 reserves including some that have been in place for more than 25 years
Sad face. First world countries, hey?
I thought this might be the case - I was gonna suggest South Africa as another example; but it’s a bit more complicated there, from my understanding.
Aren’t the budgets based on the tax income for the districts? Wealthier people tend to be white, and wealthier people have more alternatives on where to live… so why would they choose to live somewhere without clean water, just to save a bit of money?
It’s still the same answer in the end… but it’s not like some councilman is saying “those blacks won’t be getting clean water as long as I’m in charge”, no? I’d imagine that neighborhoods filled with poverty-whites would also have bad water quality.
Aren’t the budgets based on the tax income for the districts?
Tax income is usually larger on mixed-use land, that rich people tend to avoid…
I’d tend to agree with all of that. I’m not USian so my comment was - mainly - anecdotal.
I can’t even begin to understand how one could segregate water… But then, I don’t doubt it, I just don’t know how it’s possible.
I imagine it just comes down to the last mile local infrastructure not receiving the same degree of maintenance? I’m not sure, though.
I’m confident that isn’t the issue.
On no… I am too racist to understand?
Congratulations! You’ve been awarded a spot in the Republican party!
Sadly the Dems have more than their fair share of “Fuck you minorities for whatever problem I’m currently most anxious about!” constituents and attendant elected officials.
Rahm Emanuel, Gavin Newsom, and Eric Adams get along just fine with a (D) after their names.
If by “racist” you mean “not actively anti-racist,” then yes.
There are a lot of people who don’t act in a bigoted/discriminatory way themselves, but who also ignore/deny/fail to understand structural/institutional racism. Since the latter is what this comic is about, that might be the category you fall into.
Fuck if I know. Are you?
I like this joke format of answering a question with seemingly irrelevant facts that still answer the question. Hit me with some more.
My mostly Hispanic hometown’s water was mixed with recycled poo water. It was heavily filtered and processed and was probably safe… But still.
It also had a chemical taste to it.
Edit: In the US
If you think about it, all water is poo water.
Pretty much the standard in all of Germany except the water is usually better than any you can buy
I think it’s important to visit the water treatment plant to see how the thing’s done. They normally should be doing group visits for residents, but if they aren’t allowing it, then that’d be an even bigger reason not to drink it.
It’s also genuinely interesting!
In elementary, we had a field trip to the water treatment plant. It stunk… badly 🤢, but it was cool learning how it worked.
Purifying water is quite standard. Furthermore, almost all purified water is purified poo water.
I’m learning from the comments. I’m thinking poo water is recycled more often where there is water scarcity. My current town detoxifies the poo water and releases it back into a nearby river instead of reusing it as drinking water. It’s not pure water, but some regulated blend that won’t upset the river ecosystem. Lots of bacteria and other processes involved.
Welcome to this new episode of “What happened in the USA this time ?”
Same thing that’s always been happening.
Trying to take over the world? Zoinks, Psythik!
Damn, my neighbor is black. Am I fucked?
