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    It’s okay, research and discoveries will just move to China and EU etc. and the US will slowly fall behind the rest of the world.

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    The theme is stop all progress of society (& freeze the current status), ofc science (and environment?) is the devil.

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    Terrified is a boat that left last year.

    All of this shit is bad, but moreso all of it was so fucking predictable.

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    “It’s heartbreaking,” she said. “There are people in my position making pragmatic decisions about their careers. There are people we will absolutely lose to industry, whose brilliance will go toward a company instead of public good.”

    The wealthy will profit from knowledge while the public suffer in ignorance. This is the plan, though it’s stupid and short-sighted.

    I hope other countries can provide a base for US scientists to continue their work for the public good. But it’s a shame the Republican plan to destroy the USA is working so quickly.

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        Everything Trump does seems designed to put the USA at a disadvantage against China and Russia. He’s stupid, but at some point you have to wonder how his stupidity can be so systematic.

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          Selling the country’s future out the back door because he was offered a cut and the people at the front door don’t get mad, they get jealous.

          Definitely some stupidity in the doorways, as well as greed and malice.

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        A quarter of STEM workers are immigrants. With the crusade against immigrants they have a good reason to take their work somewhere else. It’s a good way to reduce the competitive edge of a country.

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        Making at least $100,000 after tax a year in a country with low living costs? You can bet on it.

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        As an American, good. They have their sins, but their people are educated, courteous, and prosocial. Our people are ignorant, hateful, and selfish.

        Looking at that from a standpoint of what path is best for humanity? I’m ashamed of my nation’s values and people. My people reject knowledge and wisdom, I can’t stand with that.

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    This is going to affect every university. Something like 60% of grant funding at my wife’s university comes from federal grants. I’m pretty sure this is going to hamstring universities across the country, and that’s their plan.

    Who knows what else they have planned. Turkey went after universities in their authoritarian crackdown, and now they have a straight up brutal dictator. Guess we’ll find out.

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      I imagine its just a lever to extort concessions. We already saw this awful behavior with threats to block fema funding to victims of California’s fires until California gave in on immigration , water rights, the environment.

      All you research grants will be com8ng right through, as long as you end anything they consider woke, DEI, critical race theory, lgbtqia+, equal opportunity, and probably Title IX. You’ll allow the Bible and replace the healthcenter with an anti-choice center, and your money will be on its way.

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      It’s so dumb as well, they want a domestic economy so they don’t need imports, but don’t want to invest in the education necessary for that economy to be able to compete with those countries that have good public education… Well, some like Musk want foreign visa slaves instead, but while the past USA had some appeal, the new government Musk helped create destroyed that.

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        I wonder whether they even understand what a scientific education is.

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      I design labs, and my current employer serves primarily higher ed and government clients. This is gonna blow a massive hole in our bottom line, and fear that something like this was coming is why I’m starting to look for employers with an international footprint and/or more private sector clientele. Even if this freeze is only temporary, it’s going to kick off a massive wave of brain drain from universities and federal labs to private industry and foreign institutions, and I don’t blame the folks making those choices, but it’s also gonna impact how much demand there is for my services.

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    I can’t fucking do this everyday. Everyday it’s more doom and gloom. Nothing good will ever happen again and my kids will have to suffer. I don’t know what to do. I feel like the father in The Road. There is no hope.

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    Trump Setbacks Wave II has begun. We warned you to vote for Kamala instead of just chanting “genocide” and saying they’re all facists so what difference does it make. Well, here’s the difference. And oh yeah, there’s that Israeli/Hamas ceasefire agreement the Biden administration was helping to thrash out while you were deciding not to vote. Good job!

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    That’s because there’s no scientific methodology for selling out to the Orange Jackass.

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    hard to be more terrified than by the majority of our voting electorate not giving an ounce of fuck about genocide in gaza.

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      I find it harder and harder to give a shit about Gaza when I am legitimately worried that Donald Trump will sign an executive order demanding my arrest any day now.

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        but you were ready to vote for it under harris’ gov… i suggest you never really cared.

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          So, who should someone who “really cared” have voted for? To you, a vote for either viable candidate signifies apathy to the Gazan struggle, so only a throw-away vote or not voting signify true caring? Is it even possible in your mind for an American voter to care about Palestinians and the fate of their own country?

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            third party =/= throwaway… did you know the republicans used to be a third party? you’re short-sighted in thinking a) anything will get better under democrats OR republicans in their current iteration and b) if i can’t have immediate change, everything i do is moot.

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              When the primaries are over and there’s no viable third party candidate in the running, yes, third party vote = throwaway vote. Your idealist thinking is what’s short-sighted.

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      I find myself less concerned about the Palestinians than I was before the election. Their supporters’ insane decision to support Trump is one of the things that put him into office.

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        Trump is literally saying Gaza should be emptied of all Palestinians, so maybe you should be concerned. Look up the Trail of Tears if you want to know why.