• Wisely@lemm.ee
    26·
    11 days ago

    When someone says retro game console I think of NES. Maybe SNES. Now that you mention it I can see N64. But no way Gamecube seems retro let alone Wii. They were on discs! Lol

    Been coming to terms that I became old lately lol. Weird how it sneaks up on you. You are young, get busy a couple years pass and ok you are a young adult. Then time seems to speed up and before you know it you are exhausted and old living in what was recently the way off future.

    Then I think there are people more than twice my age, even some 3 times. How in the world are people still functioning at all at that age? How are people president of the United States in their 80’s? I just rolled over 3 days ago and hurt my shoulder.

    • JackbyDev@programming.devEnglish
      7·
      11 days ago

      I have a theory that what we refer to as retro doesn’t advance by a year every year. In the same way words like “antique” and “vintage” bring about specific time periods and aesthetics, “retro” does as well. I’m just pulling a number out of my ass here, but say it’s like every three years that go by one year is added to what we call retro. That would mean it would take 15 years from the time we begin viewing SNES as retro to view PS1 as retro because they were released five years apart. So, if we say PS1 is retro now, that would mean we began to view SNES as retro in 2009. This sounds right, maybe? It’s hard to put myself back in that time period, but I definitely would’ve called NES games retro in 2009, but SNES it’s harder to say.

      This methodology is flawed because of “retro” is tied to an aesthetic or time period then at some point nothing new will ever be considered “retro” and we’d eventually begin using a different term to refer to things from later.

      A good example is “oldies” on the Radio. Nothing newer is really entering the group of songs we consider oldies.

      • Laser@feddit.org
        2·
        11 days ago

        In the same way words like “antique” and “vintage” bring about specific time periods and aesthetics, “retro” does as well.

        In my opinion, “retro” gaming is a misnomer and “vintage” is more fitting for what people usually mean. Retro is something modern or recent made in an older style. Actual old stuff is “vintage”. So a game like UFO 50 is actual retro gaming; of course the definition gets more fuzzy when you look at ROM hacks that don’t even work on the original hardware of the base ROM. But if you buy an original old console and play the games from back then, that’s not really retro by the original definition.

        However, I’m well aware that this ship has sailed

      • MufinMcFlufin@lemmy.world
        1·
        11 days ago

        To me, it’s less about the time since the console and more about what the average game on the console looked like. While I personally range from “don’t mind” to “quite enjoy” older graphics including pixel art and low poly 3D, the average N64 honestly looked pretty awful in comparison to modern 3D graphics. In Super Mario 64, Bob Omb Battlefield was 2,352 polygons total, compared to an average of 60,000 per level in Super Mario Sunshine. Not to mention all of the additional effects that the GC was able to pull off on top of just raw polygon counts.

        The PS1 to PS2 transition had a similar leap in graphical fidelity, though the last major PS1 titles certainly looked a lot closer to what the early PS2 titles did at the time. While I think Final Fantasy 9 looks amazing and it sometimes surprises me that it’s a PS1 title, I think Final Fantasy 7 looked closer (than at least 9 does) to what the average PS1 title looked like graphic wise and the difference in quality between it and Final Fantasy 10 is an incredible leap.

        I guess you could also make the argument that retro games are the ones that were primarily designed for being played on a CRT in which the sixth generation of consoles (GameCube, PS2, original Xbox) all would fall under compared to the next generation that at least with the PS3 and Xbox 360 both largely tried to push a new “HD era”. But personally I still see the leap between 5th and 6th generation to be probably the biggest leap in graphical fidelity we’ve ever had and to me that makes it the end cap for the retro console.

        Though I do know a bit of that is because of the jump to 3D did kinda take us back a few steps in graphics…

  • Blue@lemmy.world
    221·
    11 days ago

    Its been 19 years between now and the release of the Xbox 360, while it was 9 years between the releases of the Xbox 360 and Nintendo 64.

  • The Snark Urge@lemmy.worldEnglish
    14·
    11 days ago

    The are people living today who can remember the first video games.

    If the idea of paintings was first invented two decades ago, you wouldn’t call any of it “retro”.

    • AmosBurton_ThatGuy
      9·
      11 days ago

      No it came out just a few years ago, I was just reading about it in Nintendo power the other day! God Twilight Princess is gonna be so sick when it finally comes out!

      Right?

      Right guys?!?

  • djvinniev77
    8·
    11 days ago

    lol. It’s Frieren!

    Even more lol, in this thread no mention of the elf represented in the pic.

      • Blackmist@feddit.ukEnglish
        2·
        11 days ago

        That was only in the Super FX cartridges wasn’t it? Is mode 7 really 3D, or just rotating and scaling of a single background layer?

        Are our modern GPUs just mode 7 run millions of times on a much smaller scale…

  • Worx@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
    6·
    11 days ago

    I’ve just got off of my 360 playing Halo 2. I was playing the level with the tank, Ladies Like Armour Plating. Very fun :)

    • VindictiveJudge@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      11 days ago

      Ah, the first chapter of Metropolis. One of my favorite sections. That chapter name actually depends on the difficulty setting. On easy and normal it’s ‘Ladies Like Armor Plating’ but on heroic it’s ‘Ladies Like Grinding Treads’ and on legendary it’s ‘Ladies Like Superior Firepower.’ I think it’s the only instance in the franchise of a chapter title changing based on difficulty.

      • Worx@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
        2·
        11 days ago

        I thought I’d remembered different names for it! I never made that connection though. I did try playing on Legendary this time around but it was too difficult. Halo 2 seems much harder than Reach, which was the last one I completed on Legendary. Maybe I’m just out of practice…

        • VindictiveJudge@lemmy.worldEnglish
          3·
          10 days ago

          Halo 2 on legendary is absolutely brutal. The jackal snipers will one-shot you almost as soon as they spawn, so you need to memorize the spawn locations and triggers and make sure you have a BR to headshot them before they get into position.

    • Lumisal@lemmy.world
      3·
      11 days ago

      That’s just inaccurate. 30 years ago is 1994. Even the N64 wasn’t out yet.

      Edit: I see the confusion. It releases in Japan a few days before 95’. Always thought the N64 came out before the PlayStation

        • swab148@lemm.ee
          2·
          11 days ago

          Ah, yeah for some reason I always called the older boxy gray version the PSX, and the slimmer white one the PS1.

          • VindictiveJudge@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            11 days ago

            The mini one was officially the PS One as the full name of the system. The official abbreviation for the original grey model was the PS or PS1, depending on whether or not Sony had started developing the PS2. Then they just started adding Slim to distinguish the small models and Xbox proudly took up the duty of naming consoles things that are confusing and don’t make any sense.