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        Literally the civil war started because kansas didn’t want to be a slave state. The whole state’s right thing is just a talking point not a held belief.

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          Are you saying the next civil war will be fought over abortion and LGBTQ rights?

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            I’m just saying the whole “state’s rights” things is sort of a red herring. The right believes they don’t have to follow the rules; “crimes are when undesireables do things only I should be allowed to do”

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            I think it’s more likely blue states secede than civil war. If enough liberal folks got on board, the conservatives would bit at the chance to be the new USA with a majority of the states.

            I also think the impetus won’t be social, it will be economic.

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              Cecession will literally start a new civil war. I’m looking forward to killing some traitors.

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    No concrete plans yet but we’ll see what they can do. Good to see that some people haven’t given up all hope.

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      Do not give up hope. Don’t stop trying to make the world a better place. As long as we have people that take action, we still have hope.

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      True, at least the magas don’t have full control of every state government.

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        A constitutional crisis is very likely over the next 4 years. And if it does, all bets are off.

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          The crisis already happened when the SC declared the President a dictator and Biden didn’t have them executed for it with the powers they just gave him.

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            Technically they said Presidents and Former Presidents cannot be prosecuted for it, not give them the authority to. You still have to find a “yes-man” to obey those orders. Biden can try, tell the military to kill SCOTUS members for treason, they say “Sorry Mr. President No-can-do”. Biden might be immune for trying to do it.

            *keyword “might” be, but Scotus can say “that was not an official act”

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              *keyword “might” be, but Scotus can say “that was not an official act”

              In this thought experiment, they would certainly not be able to say that because they wouldn’t exist anymore.

              Any new justices would certainly certainly hold the Biden-preferred opinion, because otherwise he wouldn’t nominate them. (That opinion would neither be “Biden is immune and this is fine” nor “that was not an official act,” but rather “we’re overturning the previous decision and making the President prosecutable for illegal official acts again,” because forcing that ruling would be the entire point of the exercise, BTW.)

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        5th largest economy in the world, motherfuckers!

        We don’t need the US, but their military means we’re fucked should we ever try, anyway

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    Honestly I’d feel safer if we reduce the power of the federal government and put the power to the states. Sorry left-leaning people in red states, can’t let states like yours drag the country down with you.

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      As someone in a swing state, I’d be ok with that. Make the US like the EU.

      For one thing, every 4 years residents of swing states get relentlessly harassed and it fucking sucks. But also It’s so so much easier to make changes on a smaller local level without the influence of distant populations. Sure it would suck in some ways and for some states, but maybe if each state only had to convince a few thousand people to do better, rather than literally millions (presidential election, very demoralizing), swing states would be more left leaning.

      And if not, well it would probably be a lot easier to move states than move countries, even if they were EU style countries.

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        After all, you don’t need to learn a new language or integrate into a new culture when you move. People move in Europe all the time, and the US states is easy mode compared to that

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    Yes, please. Protecting and solidifying rights in the areas we can is the only way we can get through this nightmare. Hopefully progressives can claw back from this although it’s going to take generations.