How does someone like this become senator?
People in power usually aren’t smart. They just have money from their parents or grandparents. This isn’t a meritocracy. Idiots rule the world
and there’s only one way to get rid of them
Trick them in to thinking that the senate building is haunted.
I’m sure that’ll work, provided there aren’t any meddlesome kids about!
I get that. But you would think that a senator would at one point be in the same room as a history book
Carpetbagging Idaho state senator…
Then it makes sense. Unless we’re talking about white guy going to Europe somewhere and the indigene going ‘back’ to eastern Russia.
lol
Furthermore: lmao
Life imitates art, I’m sure I’ve seen this in a comedy movie at some point. I just never thought anyone would be dumb enough to say it in real life.
The person he said that to missed a great opportunity to say, “sure. Give me your house keys.”
Right after you do!
Why right after I do when I wasn’t the one who told anyone to go back where they came from, especially when that’s literally where they came from?
If an indigenous person who’s people used to be on my land asked for it back, I might consider it. But that would be difficult because they’re all dead.
Surelly the right answer would’ve been “Go back to Europe”.
(Mind you, as an European, please don’t).
“Alright…” looks around at the country his people lived in for longer than white dudes lived in it “…Done, now what?”
Them: Done. Your turn.
He looks kinda like a mix of Putin and Zuckerberg.
Damn, you’re right.
Puterberg? Zuckin? Pzucktinberg?
Totally on brand. It will be funny one day for a Native American to say this to one of these racists.
“Idaho senator born in another state tells Native American congressional candidate from a tribe native to the state to “go back where you came from.”
It would have been a much wordier headline but relays a lot more pertinent information.
Idaho State Sen. Dan Foreman, a conservative Republican
Said this to
Trish Carter-Goodheart, a Democrat running for a House seat
Always use names. The veil of “a politician said” or “big company does” is too blinding. Name and shame.
Their ideology is a cancer
An ideology of “I won’t listen to you because I’m motivated to oppress everyone else for my own gain,” is, most definitely, going to make the world worse. And this will be entirely on purpose, and no one will apologise.
i agree with you; however thinking of your adversaries as simplistic evil masks any intelligence there might be in their actions. i think it’s better to believe that they think they’re doing the right things; simply misinformed by either the people who are supposed to educate them or through willful ignorance. that way, you can better understand their human driven actions and why they took the action they made.
that way, you can better understand their human driven actions
It’s easy to understand hurting others for profit. It’s not even slightly interesting, and the world would be better without it.
very few people want to hurt others themselves; instead they turn their backs and let someone/something else do it and enable the system that lets them behave like this; like ongoing the palestinian genocide.
to be clear: they are voilence-thirsty war mongers; but labeling them as so removes them from the realm of “normal people” and into a realm where they’re not help accountable because they don’t LOOK like the depictions violence-thirsty war mongers that they’ve experienced.
who needs an apology? just make them go away.
Which state someone is from isn’t what people care about.
*Y’all are some funny misreaders. I don’t support him, I’m just saying these idiots don’t care about the state. Focusing on state for some reason is weird.
The point is the hypocrisy. Telling someone to go back where they came from in a place where you aren’t from either is hypocritical as fuck.
pointing out hypocrisy is so pointless. does anyone on the left not realize that they’re all hypocrites? please raise your hand if you need that explained.
ok. next issue on the docket: what are we going to do about it?
Yeah these idiots don’t care if they’re not from that state. They (the idiots) claim the US. Yes that’s the hypocrisy. I don’t know why everyone is so focused on state hypocrisy all of a sudden like that’s the “gotcha, you can’t be racist now”. Racism is far deeper and stupider than that.
I don’t know why everyone is so focused on state hypocrisy all of a sudden like that’s the “gotcha, you can’t be racist now”.
They aren’t? They’re just pointing out he’s a hypocrite. I’m not sure why you don’t think that’s a damnation.
we all get it. the next step is DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
What exactly do you expect me to do? I’m not even in Idaho.
i expect you to respond to calls for EFFECTIVE action with a ‘yes’. i expect you to move past “look at how shitty they are”, and move on to “do you know how to run a covert communications network?”, and “do you have a cell that is ready to take action?”
The comment I responded to:
“Idaho senator born in another state tells Native American congressional candidate from a tribe native to the state to “go back where you came from.”
Literally focused on state. That’s precisely the exacting point they were making. Like how do you read that and not think that was about the state.
And yes I think there is hypocrite damnation. Like how do you misread so badly that you think I don’t jfc. The hypocrite damnation belongs on the national level, not the state level. It doesn’t go away just because you’re from that state.
I don’t even understand what you’re saying. The guy is a hypocrite because the woman he told to go back where she came from was from the tribe that literally came from that land they were on, while he came from Illinois.
Dude I bolded where the comment I replied to was about the state. I can’t make it any clearer than that.
It isn’t, but to be fair, it absolutely does add an additional layer of irony that they weren’t even born there.
“where you come from doesn’t matter” says someguy3 in defense of a racist colonist telling someone to go back where they came from while actively living on their land.
??? I don’t support him, I’m just saying these idiots don’t care about the state.
I dunno. At some level, when all hope is gone, I find myself hoping the state where I live hasn’t gone full fascist.
This stupid fuck of a senator needs to go back to where he came from (sorry Illinois, you can’t just dump your garbage in other states like that)
Even better: she’s from the Nez Perce tribe, who do still live in the general area they originally came from. Which isn’t always a given for very violent and racist reasons.
So he doesn’t come from there, his ancestors definitely didn’t come from there, and hers very much did.
The irony has been palpable for over a century. Bizarre that we still accept it as a society
That’s not the irony.
The irony is people flying the flag of violent traitors who fought a bloody war against this country while screaming that anybody who doesn’t like it here should get out.
We desperately needed to let them leave back then, the country would be so much better.
But hey, at least we changed a few sports team names. So that’s something, right?
Yeah, about that…
Well, if we are going to be anal about this, the “native american” is simply descended from people who immigrated a lot earlier. No human is truly native to the americas. All immigrants.
EDIT> It seems that I misread / didn’t read the article. Also, I’m not condoning, simply making a comment, that tries to expose the absurdities o of “nativism”.
Thank you, Captain Literal! You saved the day again!
From now on, we’ll just call them indigenous instead and still call this state senator a racist fuck. Happy?
If we’re going to be anal about it, we don’t need to mention ancestors at all. One of these people was born in Idaho. The other was not. Get it?
Agree, but then the whole Native American thing has no place in the discussion, no? I-m just trying to point out the absurdities of “nativism”
There’s this one detail that makes the two kinds of settlement different, I wonder if you can spot what it is.
I don’t but I’d like to know
European settlers eradicated the native population, the initial indigenous migration settled an unsettled land.
Ok, this argument is pointlessly absurd because you don’t get to stop there and have to apply it to human migration all over the planet. If you’re going to be anal about it.
Let’s be real, Humans are an invasive species native to Africa
Fuck it, why stop at humans
Life is an invasive species native to the ocean
Precisely. My point is that nativism is a cancer
Allegedly*
The other politicians there have confirmed that it happened.
