The codenames for every major Debian release are named after characters from Pixar’s Toy Story franchise. Debian’s unstable release is fittingly named after Sid, an unstable character from the Toy Story movies.

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    2 months ago

    I find it kinda sad that KDE is attempting to stop it’s series of K-puns. I suspect that some app names are/were intentionally bad. Like Kcalc instead of Kalculator? Kome on…

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      Their app names were one of the main reasons I disliked KDE for a long time.
      It’s just objectively impractible when half the software installed on your pc starts with the same letter.
      But Gnome and Xfce aren’t any better in that regard.

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        Gotta say though it’s kinda nice when you run an update to be able to tell ah yes KDE apps are being upgraded when you see the wall of Ks

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        Is gnome that bad? They seem to have been moving away from weird names for many years now.

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            2 months ago

            In the branding, but the name of the installed applications in the UI do not contain “gnome”.

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              It’s not just the branding, it’s the actual command.

              Do you want to launch the hardware monitor? gnome-system-monitor. The terminal? gnome-terminal. And so forth.

              Your DE They will give these clearer and easier names to search from the menu, as well as more recognisable icons, but that’s not on Gnome

              Still makes the command slightly more of a PITA

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                Do you think DEs just have a huge list of package names to app names, or how do you imagine this would work?

                In reality, it’s of course fully on Gnome, as it’s part of their code. Nobody except for Gnome has anything to do with the name that’s being shown.

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                  I did think it worked like that but the package maintainers setting these does make more sense. Thanks for letting me know!

                  I also edited my comment to reflect this

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                  Yes, they’re called .desktop files and they’re found in /usr/share/applications.

                  On my Linux Mint machine, if I open the Applications menu and go to the Accessories tab, there’s an icon that says “Text Editor.” There is no binary on the machine by that name; it launches Xed.

                  When the common name of a package, the actual filename of the executable binary, and the icon title in the App menu are all different, it’s not great.

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                    No, your Desktop Environment doesn’t have a huge list of package names to app names. It has a list for all your installed packages, but the list entries are part of the packages.

                    If your system doesn’t have gnome-system-monitor installed, you won’t have the corresponding .desktop file, because it’s part of the package. It would be incredibly wasteful and unnecessarily complex for your system to get shipped out with .desktop files for all possible applications.

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        2 months ago

        I never understood this argument. Why does having common first letter bad? If you mean subjectively then sure, it may not be for everyone, but objectively?

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          Because if you want to start them by typing their names, autocomplete kicks in later.

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            There’s a solution for that tho: Tags. If you have sane (default) tags, you type ‘terminal’ and konsole pops up. And I feel like KDE mostly has that.

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            I think it can be helpful to separate “built in” gui tools with everything else, having them all under one letter accomplishes that.