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    To anyone out there with the ‘i can eat whatever I want without getting fat’ idea, yeah it’s not quite like that. Cholesterol and visceral fat are killers. So yeah, eat as much as you like but the healthy food factor applies to us all.

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      Your concept of cholesterol is well outdated.

      The ancient idea: cholesterol is bad

      The old idea: there is low density cholesterol which is bad and high density cholesterol which is good

      The current idea: there is low density cholesterol which is returning unloaded high density cholesterol which is good; there is high density cholesterol which is good; there is small dense cholesterol which is bad. That’s all really hard to test for, so get a coronary calcium score instead

      Cholesterol carries fat around your body for energy. If you eat too much carbohydrate too often you never give your body any chance to use the fat…

      (your body burns energy from most dangerous to least: alcohol immediately as it’s a literal poison; sugars (the main energy in carbohydrate based food) second as too much will destroy nerves - excess is converted to fat and stored to prevent too high concentrations until or unless that system is broken (type 1 diabetes) or over used (type 2) - ; then fat (excess fat is evacuated via faeces or vomit); then protein (protein tastes bad after you have had enough, so it’s hard to overeat))

      … and so the cholesterol fails, breaking up and spewing out its load of fat. So the blood test that actually gives useful cholesterol information is high cholesterol with high free fatty acids (FFA) because the FFA is high because of the failed cholesterol

      That’s a simplified version and isn’t quite technically correct, I’m not a scientist in that area so I’m not good at recalling the full detail.

      We evolved in an environment where most of the year there was mostly meat to eat, along with whatever perennial plants can be found in winter. In summer for a few weeks whatever fruit grew near you was available.

      We haven’t had time to adapt to eating grass seeds (wheat, rice, corn, barley, etc). We have only had those in any large amount for 10 000 years which is a blink of an eye evolutionarily. The native Americans of the Great Plains ate only buffalo, eating it fresh during mass kills in summer, and preserving tons of meat and fat as “pemmican” a 50/50 blend of pounded dried meat with melted buffalo fat, sewn into buffalo skins for the rest of the year. When Europeans first saw them they described them as more fine nude than a noble in his finest clothes, tall and built like Adonis. Learning all this I changed to eating only animal products (beef and eggs) and found my health improve incredibly. It helped that I’m allergic to many grasses, including lawn, bamboo, and wheat, and cutting wheat out of my diet, along with all processed foods could only be good

      You are correct on excess visceral fat. It’ll kill you. Those broken cholesterol molecules - the small dense cholesterol - is the stuff that collides with blood vessel walls and accumulates calcium. Chronic carbohydrate consumption gives you coronary artery disease.

      TLDR; too much carbohydrate too often breaks the body’s fat transport system making the newly discovered bad cholesterol which causes heart disease

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          It’s possible to absorb more or less from your food, for instance someone who is lactose intolerant is not going to gain as much weight from eating the same amount of cheese as someone who is not

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              That does depend on the cheese, ricotta and mozzarella for example do contain lactose (enough to cause me quite some discomfort unfortunately). And processed stuff which shouldn’t be allowed to be called cheese may contain amounts that spell instant doom for the guts of the lactase deficient.

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          Getting fat isn’t anyone’s goal. It’s always getting fit. Calories without nutrients will only lead to obesity.

          Don’t understand why every American wants to die on a hill announcing this BS.

          Edit: Please learn about empty calories, don’t be a sheep.

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            A calorie is a unit of measurement. In terms of how much energy you are consuming, which is what matters for weight gain, there is literally no difference between one calorie and another.

            “Empty calories” does have a meaning and it’s that something is ‘just’ calories with no additional nutrients. Not eating any nutrients will make you sick, but not obese.

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              That’s not totally true. Nutrients can be more or less bioavailable depending on how they come. This includes calories. It’s a good rule of thumb to assume all calories are the same, but it’s not exactly accurate

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              Agreed, my wording might be off but what I meant is eating high calories with low nutritional value would make you unfit and obese.

              Look at India, no workout and lots of Fibre in diet causing only belly fat.

              The staple food of a region means a lot, Mediterranean diet is considered healthiest by those standards.

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      I think it means an older woman, referring to her vagina resembling “roast beef”, implying it and her to be undesirable.

      Idk, something misogynistic

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        Correct. Jealous, resentful people making fun of other people for having sex. Tale as old as time.

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        Your comment is helpful and appropriate in context, yet it is difficult not to downvote it due to its content.

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          Downvote OP for posting misogynist shit and not the person pointing out out (on request, no less)

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            The op didn’t make the original 4chan post, it’s funny because actual OP is clearly an idiot, misogyny included.

            Very much a “laughing at” not “laughing with” situation.

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                Maybe block greentext, rather then asserting your worldview on everyone else. I personally find idiots doing or saying idiotic things humorous because it shows that they’re idiots for all to see.

                If we’re policing all speech, that’s not going to end well for anyone as someone will ALWAYS find a way to have their feelings hurt by something someone else said.

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        I thought it meant that she was a roastie as in sizzling hot. Dunno, never grilled a woman before.

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        Seems more like a term to describe someone who roasts other people.

        Which is exactly what happened in the text.

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          I thought it meant she was working in a Starbucks or another coffee shop / diner that sells a lot of coffee. Roastie as in Roasted coffee beans.

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          I work with a girl named Virginia who is dating another coworker with the last name Richmond, and we are in Richmond, Virginia.

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      A woman who, from having multiple sexual partners, has her stuff look like roast beef. Another reply mentioned older women but it is used for any woman, really.

      It’s… yeah.

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      Maybe a waitress managing her workload with lightly roasting the customers. With an experienced roastie that’s actually funny and entertaining.

      One of my favourite restaurants closed down over Covid. It had an awesome roastie from Berlin. I actually celebrated my wedding there. I miss him.

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    Not really interested in seeing incel shit on here even if it’s self-deprecating.

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      Not sure what your angle is but you can just block a community (or instance). Telling people what they can post usually doesn’t work

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          This community sidebar clearly states:

          Be warned:

          • Anon is often crazy.
          • Anon is often depressed.
          • Anon frequently shares thoughts that are immature, offensive, or incomprehensible.

          If you find yourself getting angry (or god forbid, agreeing) with something Anon has said, you might be doing it wrong.

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            Best to go to Reddit for that. It’d cause so many problems, particularly for small instances

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              They’re all banned at that hellhole site D:

              I’m so intrigued by that stuff though. I know there’s WPD dot co but is all the sites like that have HORRID comment sections and I like to discuss crazy stuff with folks who don’t suck :c

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                Not all of them. r/PublicFreakout (and its clone - r/ActualPublicFreakout) both have a fair bit of gore. r/IAmATotalPieceOfShit sometimes has some as well

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      Mad about 4chan shit on a 4chan community

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          Or to find a long term way of eating that makes you not obese (and not skinny-fat either). I’m on a zero fibre, zero sugar diet which works well — makes me feel good, though it is pretty extreme and isn’t supported by any national dietary guidelines. I have been not obese for over a year and not overweight for a few months

          That sounds very fatphobic :/ but really I did it for allergies and health rather than for body image, it just happens to have worked for body image too

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        They talk about how they can eat what they want and not get fat as if being fat is a problem. Talking about fat being a problem is fatphobia. Trying to fit a body image your body can’t do is internalised fatphobia. Noticing that nearly no one was fat in 1920, but something like half of us are now, is probably fatphobic. I think accepting a modern diet of processed foods and sugar water drinks is not fatphobic, but suggesting weight loss diets or methods is

        What OOP didn’t know is that he was getting worse than obese, he was putting on visceral fat which doesn’t show much.

        Being fat isn’t intrinsically unhealthy, but it’s pretty hard to be healthy and obese. It’s pretty hard to be healthy on a diet of packaged foods and factory made drinks

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          I completely disagree. He was making no comments about obesity being morally or socially wrong. He was simply saying it is his personal preference to not be fat, he prefers to be thin.

          If that is fat phobic then me saying I don’t want to have sex with other men is homophobic.