These people that consider nerd dumps “delightful” seem extremely rare
Nerds who give good explanations are even more rare. Usually it’s an emotionless info dump to bring someone up to speed when it should be an elevator pitch about what is interesting and an example to show how unexpected it can be. She seems to have some entertaining nerds.
it should be an elevator pitch about what is interesting and an example to show how unexpected it can be. She seems to have some entertaining nerds.
She said novel though
Ask me a specific question about what I’m expert in, you’ll get a succinct answer. Ask in general terms you’ll get a brief general tour, if I can be arsed
It’s sad how right you are about this. People are terrible at explaining their passions in a way that gets other people excited about it!
Not just nerds, everyone!
I love knowing what makes people tick so I ask them about things they find interesting (regardless how they think I will feel about it). I basically ask them to info dump about the thing they care most about, because I want to know what makes them who they are.
Most people are very timid about sharing, they don’t have the gusto, or if they do, they are so buried in the minutia that they don’t know what gets them excited for it on a grand scale, so they can’t share those aspects.
It’s true of nerds, specialists in any field, really anyone who knows a lot about a thing. It’s why science communicators are kinda rare and those that are popular are… kinda arrogant… (I’m a science communicator myself so I’ve been exposed to a lot of the content out there and a lot of it comes off as extremely condescending)
As someone who probably sucks at getting people interested in his hobbies, in my defense it can be difficult for me to boil down what makes it interesting to someone who’s not into it because I’ve been into it for so long that I am fascinated by those details that others find boring.
I could not for the life of me successfully convince someone to think that control systems are awesome, which they absolutely are, and the things I can find fascinating about new methods won’t matter and probably won’t even be understandable to someone without the fundamentals.
As a food microbiologist, I feel like I could excite some child by saying “it GROWS!”, but I’ll have hard time explaining the joy and happiness of “IT grows!”, so to speak :D
I’ll have to get into a lot of details on why this particular strain is so revolutionary, what was it worth to extract one, and how happy I am that it all works just as planned (which it often doesn’t, since we’re working on the barely explored territory).
Those strains are about to change the way we make goddamn bread, and yet communicating the importance of it is surprisingly hard, because it operates characteristics people don’t pay close attention to, which they absolutely goddamn should.
My son does this with dinosaurs, and I absolutely love it.
That’s #parentinggoals right there.
Mine are doing it with Pokemon right now, but yeah, it’s the same triggers and enthusiasm and I love seeing it and being there to share that with them (even if I never cared for Pokemon).
Their obsession changes with the years, but I have never really stopped them, whenever they want to share their enthusiasm, because my parents never gave me that and my god is it soul crushing to feel so misunderstood or downright ignored by the very first people who should at least fucking try!
Also given it’s one of the big reason I never really communicate with my mum on anything, I’d rather not have the same situation happen to me when they grow up!I adore exploring their interests with them. I also had extremely disinterested parents. Seeing my sons joy when I explore his passion with him is priceless.
Ok, so there i was, barbecue sauce on my titties…
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Nope, have to keep it to myself. I know a lot about lasers. People think lasers are cool.
But I know incredibly specific boring things about CO2 lasers that are used for metal cutting. I know enough about lasers to make them boring.
Ooh exciting, I’ve wanted to find someone with your knowledge! I couldn’t find a good answer when I was researching this a while back.
How powerful of a laser would I need to cut 18mm ply at a workable speed? Would I need crazy cooling setups? And what size steel or aluminium could I cut with that?
This would be a home DIY setup, but on the ‘serious business’ side of DIY.
The lasers I ran could do that but we typically cut steel and aluminum with them. They had a separate chiller that had to vent outdoors, along with forced ventilation systems to keep fumes and fine metal dust from building up.
I’m not as familiar with cutting plywood, unfortunately. But I feel like 18mm material woukd need at least 1,000 watts.
Cool!
… Speaking of, what’s the cooling like on a 1kW laser?
You two are fun. U sense there’s a drinking game just around the corner
With a slight possibility of blindness
I wish to make an insight check
I feel like the guys that run our plasma may not have the best ventilation.
I’ve cut plywood that thickness with a CO2 laser at 150 Chinese watts (closer to 140 SI watts). It takes several passes, and you would want a lens that makes a parallel beam. Most laser cutters come with a lens that focuses the beam to a point. That’s good for thinner material, but not something this thick.
It’s not great at it. Might have a lot of char. But it’s possible.
Go on…
Well… we’re waiting…
You had me at “lasers”.
I know ArF lasers lol. So the CO2 is used to generate your lasers or what?
Full disclosure, I don’t run CNC lasers for a living anymore. But I did for about ten years.
The laser is generated in a cabinet the size of a large refrigerator. Inside that cabinet is a bunch of stuff, but what we are concerned with today are the tubes and turbine. There are glass tubes with mirrors at each end, and they are filled with a mixture of helium, CO2, and nitrogen. These tubes have an electrode in the side of them where high-voltage DC (around 40k volts) is used to “pump” the laser. Some lasers are RF pumped which is nice, because you don’t have to put an electrode through the tube, and they are less prone to leaking. In addition to the laser tubes, you have at least one turbine circulating the laser gas through a heat exchanger, because lasers are only 10%-15% efficient and the extra heat has to go somewhere. There will be a chiller, a machine that makes cold water, which circulates water through the heat exchanger and the mirrors.
Once you have that juice being pumped into the laser gas, the tubes will look light purple or pink. But the beam itself is invisible, in the infrared spectrum. There is typically a small red laser, like a laser pointer, which is aimed through the optics to show where the beam is pointed.
To cut metal, you need a cutting gas in addition to the laser. For carbon steel, low-pressure oxygen is used, around 35-60 torr. (so .04 to .05 bar) To cut the steel, the laser is focused on the top surface of the material, and a nozzle is held about .035" (~0.9mm) above the material. The laser pulses at first, say around 2200 watts and 1/2 Hz, for a second if the material is more than 9mm or so thick. Once the laser has pierced the metal, the beam will switch to either continuous wave (full “on”) at 2000-2500 watts, or it will run at a frequency which can be chosen by the operator, and a duty cycle which the operator also chooses. In this case the beam will look like it’s “on” but it’s really flashing too fast to see. While the laser is running, the aforementioned low pressure oxygen is blown at the hot spot it makes, which burns the steel out of the cut.
If you are cutting aluminum or stainless steel, you need nitrogen instead of oxygen, and it needs to be higher pressure. Like 120 psi/8.2 bar. And you have to use more power, because there isn’t oxygen to help with the cutting, and because aluminum is a good heat conductor. So you run at 3600-4000 watts, and this is important, your focal point needs to be about 2/3 of the way through the material. This produces a cut that is shiny and fairly smooth on stainless, and fairly neat and clean on aluminum. A good machine with clean optics can cut steel and stainless steel with no burrs, and aluminum with a slight burr which can be easily knocked off with a file.
A 4kw laser can handle carbon steel 3/4"/19mm thick, and stainless or aluminum 1/2"/13mm thick. Speeds vary, but I could generally get any machine to cut 1/4" carbon steel (6mm) at 90-120 inches per minute, which is 2286-3050 mm per minute.
And now, everywhere I go, I spot bad laser cuts on stuff. Nothing like going to the gym and seeing focus lines in the equipment.
Man, that’s a lot more in depth than I expected, thank you. Ours pulse at 6 kHz but operate in generally the same way as far as I know.
I used different pulse frequencies and duty cycles depending on the material.
Cool that makes sense. Ours max out at the 6 kHz but the customer does vary the range and duty cycle a bit for their uses.
Well, what do you know, not boring at all after all! Although now I’m curious as to the role of the gas being pulsed at the metal. It sounds like without gas you can’t cut metal? So… no laser cutting in a vacuum? Laser cutting really is just plasma cutting?
Laser cutters, plasma cutters, and cutting torches all use the same method to cut - a point is heated until it’s hot enough to burn, then oxygen is blown into it.
The difference is the heat source and how small of an area you can heat up.
I haven’t tried to cut anything in a vacuum, but i think it would work with adjustments. The oxygen or nitrogen is bottled for the laser anyway. (Or rather its stored as a liquid in tanks outside)
A laser doesn’t cut any more than a flashlight or a microwave. It just makes things hot.
I loved this
What do you think of the youtuber styropyro?
I went and looked that one up. Im a little surprised he doesn’t have an eyepatch.
I just get called annoying or told to repeat myself 10 times because I’m apparently talking too fast.
At this point I just avoid people who aren’t coworkers
Tell me your “Ok so…” thing. I’ll listen
I used to watch people’s eyes glaze over when explaining what I do for a living. Now I just say “website shit” and they go “ahh, so cool!” and we move on with our lives.
Fuck, that must be brutal
hurts my soul
Fine excuses to set the people you love up for these moments. Let them go every once in a while on the thing they are best at, it’s a nice thing to do.
“Okay, so I was there when Horus slew the Emperor…”
“And he did absolutely nothing wrong, so jot that down”
I detect heresy. Initiating exterminatus of lemm.ee
My wife says it’s one of my most endearing and most annoying features.
And I totally believe it
Yeah, I’m never not thankful for my wife’s willingness to listen to my random nerd-rants. Though it does go both ways, because she does the same thing sometimes when telling work stories (I’m a software dev, while she works vetmed)
Omfg the animal abuse stories are hard tho…Mines a dog and cat groomer so we’re not that far off lmao
On the flip side, this tends to happen because those starting “Okay, so…” have learned that you will have an even longer conversation when you start with the short answer and are forced to work backwards because of questions and challenges.
Source: I am in this picture. 😅
oh, queso 🧀
Maybe we need a “Nerd Dump” mag here. I think it would be interesting but I’m not sure how different it would be from Wikipedia articles.
I dont know… It just aint the same in writing as it is vocally in person. When I write, I look up facts, check my spelling, create proper paragraphs and move them in a logical order.
When speaking its more like a giant brain dump, limited to only what I remember, and branching randomly as I suddenly realise I have to explain a side thing to make the main topic more clear. And when the listener is still listening and nodding (and even better, asks questions!) instead of phasing out or running away, its easier to continue and I get a bit of happy brain chemical from it. Theres also a happy brain chemical on the other side, from seeing someone explaining things with enthusiasm. Which I hope most people get, but I have met people who certainly dont, unfortunately.
Videos would be the thing. Except thats just describing Youtube.
I agree that different formats and contexts work differently.
However, I would allow any format and level of complexity and let the submitter decide. You want to do a video and link to it? Great, please do. You want to do an informal write up as a comment? Yep. You want to write a formal paper with cites, etc? Go for it.
This is the dream partner for someone with ADD and niche interests.
Okay so this guy had a quest comic called Problem Sleuth…
I did this a few days ago when someone asked about the history of Morning Prayer in the Church of England. It started with “Ok, so…” and ended with me emailing them eight pdfs of supporting material.
So true
