Most people buying clothes aren’t looking for high fashion, they’re looking for something comfortable in a colour that they like. Those who are looking for fashion tend to get clothes that are originally designed and made by a tailor, and then copied so others may wear them, importantly with the consent of the tailor. These are akin to YCH commissions, since the artist/tailor gets paid for the design.
This doesn’t apply to AI image generation, as the artists are almost never asked for their consent before their work gets copied and cloned a million times over. Nor do they get any sort of compensation for their stolen work.
Fun fact, fashion is one of the few artistic media that has literally never been protected by copyright law and has literally always been filled with people having their work copied and cloned millions of times over with no recourse. And this isn’t even considered to be a bad thing. This is just how fashion works as an art.
You know it’s funny is that there’s entire artistic movements (even in fashion itself) all about challenging the idea that art is inherently a demonstration of technical ability, and that such a world view is actually incredibly philosophically shallow, limited, and frankly incoherent when you’re trying to actually decide what is and isn’t art. For instance, Johnny Rotten safety pinning his sleeves onto his shirt is a far more interesting tailor than anyone at a high-end fashion boutique even if he literally doesn’t know how to sew.
I’m one of the few dudes who didn’t think sewing was for women back in school, and let me tell you - that shit is worth having as a skill. Legitimately being able to tailor your own clothing is legit.
However, I’m not gonna dump on people without the skill to do it - just like I won’t dump on people who use modern tools to create graphics.
And they did so via slavery. Still do in some parts of the world. So their argument is still valid. Clothing people requires these tools, art does not. AI ‘art’ doesn’t need to exist.
This art made by an artist wearing clothes made by machines because they didn’t want to pay a tailor.
What the fuck kind of garbage argument is that, gtfo here
Everyone laugh at this person. Heckle and pursue them all their days.
Do you not think fashion is art?
Most people buying clothes aren’t looking for high fashion, they’re looking for something comfortable in a colour that they like. Those who are looking for fashion tend to get clothes that are originally designed and made by a tailor, and then copied so others may wear them, importantly with the consent of the tailor. These are akin to YCH commissions, since the artist/tailor gets paid for the design.
This doesn’t apply to AI image generation, as the artists are almost never asked for their consent before their work gets copied and cloned a million times over. Nor do they get any sort of compensation for their stolen work.
Fun fact, fashion is one of the few artistic media that has literally never been protected by copyright law and has literally always been filled with people having their work copied and cloned millions of times over with no recourse. And this isn’t even considered to be a bad thing. This is just how fashion works as an art.
ME, doing shitty sewing on my own old clothes: “You know, I’m something of a tailor myself”
You know it’s funny is that there’s entire artistic movements (even in fashion itself) all about challenging the idea that art is inherently a demonstration of technical ability, and that such a world view is actually incredibly philosophically shallow, limited, and frankly incoherent when you’re trying to actually decide what is and isn’t art. For instance, Johnny Rotten safety pinning his sleeves onto his shirt is a far more interesting tailor than anyone at a high-end fashion boutique even if he literally doesn’t know how to sew.
I’m one of the few dudes who didn’t think sewing was for women back in school, and let me tell you - that shit is worth having as a skill. Legitimately being able to tailor your own clothing is legit.
However, I’m not gonna dump on people without the skill to do it - just like I won’t dump on people who use modern tools to create graphics.
The world needs more clothes than human hands can make. Not true of illustrations.
Humans clothed themselves before machines existed, so clearly that isn’t true.
Want to try a different argument?
And they did so via slavery. Still do in some parts of the world. So their argument is still valid. Clothing people requires these tools, art does not. AI ‘art’ doesn’t need to exist.
Shh, this is Lemmy, AI bad sir.
I’ve got an AI on my refurbished Linux laptop’ - where I can fucking see it. :cocks gun:
Generational AI that’s taking work from actual people is bad
Did you read the sub name? If you don’t like it, fuck off somewhere else. Or make you own AI loving instance.
I just assume anyone who loves these chatbots is a fellow chatbot. No real actual humans could be that stupid.