sadly, I’ve seen too much leftist organizing dysfunction to think that haha. Leftists are their own worst enemies. And I don’t just mean fights between factions. I mean just… holy shit sometimes people are just so disorganized.
I remember when our local Occupy group decided to initially operate on a consensus basis. Ever tried to operate 100+ people on a consensus basis? No matter what was proposed, someone didn’t like it and wouldn’t budge. They eventually fell to a mix of infighting and the police clearing out the park they were occupying (which had turned to a mud bath in the mean time).
I mean “anarchism” is an extremely broad label, to the point of almost being as meaningless as calling oneself a leftist or marxist. A lot of anarchists are pro-direct-democracy, which isn’t consensus based. A specific example is the “inclusive democracy” movement: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inclusive_Democracy
We have to remember, these labels are all abstractions, they aren’t real concrete relations. They’re just ways that humans divide up and name the world for ease of use.
It is also a misunderstanding of what census decision making aims to achieve. You can argue that it wasn’t the right tool under the circumstances of the Occupy Wallstreet protests, but given that such protests are not a way to achieve meaningful changes in society anyways, one can argue that it at least inspired the participants to start thinking about other forms of organizing society.
sadly, I’ve seen too much leftist organizing dysfunction to think that haha. Leftists are their own worst enemies. And I don’t just mean fights between factions. I mean just… holy shit sometimes people are just so disorganized.
I remember when our local Occupy group decided to initially operate on a consensus basis. Ever tried to operate 100+ people on a consensus basis? No matter what was proposed, someone didn’t like it and wouldn’t budge. They eventually fell to a mix of infighting and the police clearing out the park they were occupying (which had turned to a mud bath in the mean time).
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Not all anarchists require consensus.
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I mean “anarchism” is an extremely broad label, to the point of almost being as meaningless as calling oneself a leftist or marxist. A lot of anarchists are pro-direct-democracy, which isn’t consensus based. A specific example is the “inclusive democracy” movement: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inclusive_Democracy
We have to remember, these labels are all abstractions, they aren’t real concrete relations. They’re just ways that humans divide up and name the world for ease of use.
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It is also a misunderstanding of what census decision making aims to achieve. You can argue that it wasn’t the right tool under the circumstances of the Occupy Wallstreet protests, but given that such protests are not a way to achieve meaningful changes in society anyways, one can argue that it at least inspired the participants to start thinking about other forms of organizing society.