The theory of Trump’s tariff actually has rationale. He tries to force countries to submit to US’ economic demands and imperialism. The problem with this, though, is that Trump and co. assume we still live in 19th century, when you can still perform gunboat diplomacy and that the international community won’t retaliate.
Trump is a really strange character. He probably doesn’t have actual control. The only persons benefitting from this are the tech bros and oligarchs. They stole as much as they could from government data to surveil people and train their AI. And Putin may either have kompromat or funding Trump, or both, for the US president to kowtow to Russia.Trump is the frontman and being propped as pazi should shit hit the fan on the administration.
The idea that the US was getting a bad deal is just fucking laughable though. The reality is we have had 70 years of neoliberalism forcing the entire world to do what we want because our economic and military might had our boot to their throat.
Oh but we had a bad deal. -Trump
No, NOW we have a bad deal. Fucking dipshit ruined a soft empire where we subjugated the entire god damn planet in order to… make the beneficiaries of that subjugation work harder? We had already won! All we had to do was maintain the petrodollar and fuck over China’s ability to form relations with the first world. But now we lost.
Like, I hate capitalism and I hate neoliberalism, but at the same time I’m like, if you’re going to change the world, well, fucking up the positives only to leave a pile of shit is not really much of a solution. These religious right wing hogs know nothing about how the world works. I still have to remind myself Trump is a symptom of a system that can no longer carry on. I mean, every Empire falls, soft to hard, don’t matter.
I’m in the same camp. Just because I can recognize the evils that I am a beneficiary of doesn’t mean I necessarily want them to continue. But there are better ways to dismantle an empire. At this point, I’m expecting civil war (Rwanda style) followed by a foreign invasion (likely China) while we’re in pieces.
I doubt anyone will invade the us. China, if it had any military movement, is much more likely to want to consolidate everything close to it. Japan, eastern russia, the philippines, korea. Canada doesn’t have the motivation to invade (it might allow areas to join if our military is dead enough to not fuss about it), and mexico doesn’t have the wherewithal to use their military against the cartels (they did let their military loose once and it was kicking some ass, but they stopped because of internal reasons), much less a foreign country. They might annex parts of the southern states, in the same manner as canada if the military is done for.
India definitely doesn’t want to suddenly build the logistics to invade, no south american country wants the headache, and european areas will probably be looking to their east.
Russia might be the only one with the motivation and quasi-ability to do it. They wouldn’t get much more than they are currently out of ukraine, but it’s possible putin would make a play for alaskan territory. I think it’s unlikely, considering china would really take advantage of that extended and vulnerable supply chain.
Makes more sense when you see it through the lens of self enrichment, not about getting anything more for America.
I’m sure down the road it will come out that he hinted to trade delegations to make an investment in $Trump coin help negotiations along. Whilst of course also making timely personal investment decisions in the American markets fluctuate.
It’s just so stupid too, America had won world trade, in so much as there is an actual winning. No one is actually winning from this, oligarchs are changing their power from near absolute control over the globe, to absolute control over a sinking empire. Like good job guys…
Trump and his team over-corrected (can that word even be applied considering the results?)
with trying to re-shore jobs to America to appease his base. But even his base are now also pissed off!
Edit: I should also add, that Trump fascism with Project 2025 are trying to export their ideological brand to other places. They especially have an axe to grind with the EU’s "over-regulation’, which is why Trump and his administration are basically telling France to be more racist, and telling the EU to accept US’ chlorinated chickens, or stop trading with the US’ entirely.
That’s the thing, even if that was their goal there was a path through existing structures for that. The CHIPS act was designed to onshore technological manufacturing, CHIPS sucks as it’s more trickle down bullshit, but it accomplishes the goal within the American hegemonic project. They had the plan to continue to transfer wealth to the rich under existing structures and still onshore manufacturing.
I’m honestly not even sure trump is a Russian plant anymore, their decisions are just so stupid. America relinquishes it’s role of world police and Europe is forced to create a unified military to counter Russia, how does that help them in anyway?
There is no plan, no one ultimately benefits, it’s just short sighted idiocy…
Maybe insider trading is what Trump is trying to do. But even then, this is the most incompetent fascism I have seen thus far. Hitler and Mussolini were not even this stupid and ruderless.
I don’t believe there is any rationale behind it beyond harm to the USA.
This is just Krasnov doing as he’s told by his boss, the goal is damage. You’d have to overlook the absolute myriad of Russian ties, convictions, scandals and verified facts to see any other plan at play - yet the US news continually gives him the benefit of the doubt and thus the populace is left looking for alternative motives.
Not trying to disagree with you, but many things can be true at the same time. The theory of Trump’s tariff is still conforming to his close ally’s, Steve Bannon, view of “economic nationalism”. But at the same time, Trump may well be getting signals from Putin. After all, Putin still indulges the right.
Fair, and if tarrifs were his primary ‘unusual’ policy decision that might be the most reasonable assumption with respect to Occam’s razor, but when you add in the hundreds of other deeply damaging actions he’s taken against US institutions, core government branches, and functions it really tips the conclusion toward intentional sabotage.
The theory of Trump’s tariff actually has rationale. He tries to force countries to submit to US’ economic demands and imperialism. The problem with this, though, is that Trump and co. assume we still live in 19th century, when you can still perform gunboat diplomacy and that the international community won’t retaliate.
Trump is a really strange character. He probably doesn’t have actual control. The only persons benefitting from this are the tech bros and oligarchs. They stole as much as they could from government data to surveil people and train their AI. And Putin may either have kompromat or funding Trump, or both, for the US president to kowtow to Russia.Trump is the frontman and being propped as pazi should shit hit the fan on the administration.
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take my up vote, beautifully worded and 100% support.
The idea that the US was getting a bad deal is just fucking laughable though. The reality is we have had 70 years of neoliberalism forcing the entire world to do what we want because our economic and military might had our boot to their throat.
Oh but we had a bad deal. -Trump
No, NOW we have a bad deal. Fucking dipshit ruined a soft empire where we subjugated the entire god damn planet in order to… make the beneficiaries of that subjugation work harder? We had already won! All we had to do was maintain the petrodollar and fuck over China’s ability to form relations with the first world. But now we lost.
Like, I hate capitalism and I hate neoliberalism, but at the same time I’m like, if you’re going to change the world, well, fucking up the positives only to leave a pile of shit is not really much of a solution. These religious right wing hogs know nothing about how the world works. I still have to remind myself Trump is a symptom of a system that can no longer carry on. I mean, every Empire falls, soft to hard, don’t matter.
I’m in the same camp. Just because I can recognize the evils that I am a beneficiary of doesn’t mean I necessarily want them to continue. But there are better ways to dismantle an empire. At this point, I’m expecting civil war (Rwanda style) followed by a foreign invasion (likely China) while we’re in pieces.
I doubt anyone will invade the us. China, if it had any military movement, is much more likely to want to consolidate everything close to it. Japan, eastern russia, the philippines, korea. Canada doesn’t have the motivation to invade (it might allow areas to join if our military is dead enough to not fuss about it), and mexico doesn’t have the wherewithal to use their military against the cartels (they did let their military loose once and it was kicking some ass, but they stopped because of internal reasons), much less a foreign country. They might annex parts of the southern states, in the same manner as canada if the military is done for.
India definitely doesn’t want to suddenly build the logistics to invade, no south american country wants the headache, and european areas will probably be looking to their east.
Russia might be the only one with the motivation and quasi-ability to do it. They wouldn’t get much more than they are currently out of ukraine, but it’s possible putin would make a play for alaskan territory. I think it’s unlikely, considering china would really take advantage of that extended and vulnerable supply chain.
It wouldn’t be a traditional invasion with hordes of men. It would first be through colonization style immigration with money, and then murder drones.
Please let it be Canada
Makes more sense when you see it through the lens of self enrichment, not about getting anything more for America.
I’m sure down the road it will come out that he hinted to trade delegations to make an investment in $Trump coin help negotiations along. Whilst of course also making timely personal investment decisions in the American markets fluctuate.
It’s just so stupid too, America had won world trade, in so much as there is an actual winning. No one is actually winning from this, oligarchs are changing their power from near absolute control over the globe, to absolute control over a sinking empire. Like good job guys…
Trump and his team over-corrected (can that word even be applied considering the results?) with trying to re-shore jobs to America to appease his base. But even his base are now also pissed off!
Edit: I should also add, that Trump fascism with Project 2025 are trying to export their ideological brand to other places. They especially have an axe to grind with the EU’s "over-regulation’, which is why Trump and his administration are basically telling France to be more racist, and telling the EU to accept US’ chlorinated chickens, or stop trading with the US’ entirely.
That’s the thing, even if that was their goal there was a path through existing structures for that. The CHIPS act was designed to onshore technological manufacturing, CHIPS sucks as it’s more trickle down bullshit, but it accomplishes the goal within the American hegemonic project. They had the plan to continue to transfer wealth to the rich under existing structures and still onshore manufacturing.
I’m honestly not even sure trump is a Russian plant anymore, their decisions are just so stupid. America relinquishes it’s role of world police and Europe is forced to create a unified military to counter Russia, how does that help them in anyway?
There is no plan, no one ultimately benefits, it’s just short sighted idiocy…
Maybe insider trading is what Trump is trying to do. But even then, this is the most incompetent fascism I have seen thus far. Hitler and Mussolini were not even this stupid and ruderless.
I don’t believe there is any rationale behind it beyond harm to the USA.
This is just Krasnov doing as he’s told by his boss, the goal is damage. You’d have to overlook the absolute myriad of Russian ties, convictions, scandals and verified facts to see any other plan at play - yet the US news continually gives him the benefit of the doubt and thus the populace is left looking for alternative motives.
Not trying to disagree with you, but many things can be true at the same time. The theory of Trump’s tariff is still conforming to his close ally’s, Steve Bannon, view of “economic nationalism”. But at the same time, Trump may well be getting signals from Putin. After all, Putin still indulges the right.
Fair, and if tarrifs were his primary ‘unusual’ policy decision that might be the most reasonable assumption with respect to Occam’s razor, but when you add in the hundreds of other deeply damaging actions he’s taken against US institutions, core government branches, and functions it really tips the conclusion toward intentional sabotage.
Let’s call them republicans ?