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      Someone in another thread (maybe on Reddit, I don’t remember) posited that this is a direct consequence of America’s notion of individualism and I haven’t been able to get that out of my head since.

      It’s a slippery slope from individualism to the fear of the Other.

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    First Past The Post voting artificially limiting the number of viable political parties.

    “How can people support human rights domestically when they support genocide abroad?”

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    My parents hate the insurance companies. But they’ve been convinced by the right wing that the government would handle things worse.

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      Which is stupid because the government already provides the majority of healthcare in this country and is doing it quite well. Medicare has a 90+% approval rate from the people who use it and it is far more efficient than private insurance.

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    My wife explains it like this:

    Racism.

    White voters will cut off their own nose before granting health care to black and brown people.

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    I had this argument with my mom the other day. She agrees private healthcare is a broken system and needs to be fixed, but you bring up public healthcare and she’ll fight tooth and nail to argue against it. It’s insane. Literal “no take, only throw” tier mindset

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      Propaganda. People have been told their whole lives that socialism is pure evil, nevermind what socialism actually is. Public healthcare is socialism, therefore it’s evil.

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    They believe in a free market but also believe the free market is currently corrupt.

    It’s like people who believe in monarchy but hate their corrupt baron.

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    Because they don’t realize that it will affect them. They think “this won’t hurt me because I actually need Medicare. I’m going to stick it to all the freeloaders, of which I am not one.”

    But just like being in a car, you aren’t stuck in traffic, you are traffic.

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    Believe it or not, some of the people cheering him on actually just like chaos and violence and don’t have any deeper politics.

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    No one is immune to propaganda and the top 1% owns approximately 95% of the media.

    The average Joe is too busy living their life to try to understand anything beyond the basics.

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      Some of us do seem to be immune to the propaganda, though. I’ve heard so much anti-union propaganda. I’ve heard so much anti-Socialist rhetoric, anti-woke bullshit, etc. I was educated and employed in a red state.

      Yet, here I am telling you that Socialism is the truth. Unions are awesome. I support just about any marginalized groups rights. Many of my friends and family feel the same even though they were educated and indoctrinated in the same system.

      There is a lot more to it than just propaganda. I would say that tribalism plays a larger role. When someone is born into a conservative family, surrounded by conservative citizens, it becomes a lot easier to just agree with the status quo in the area to fit in. I can tell you, from my experience, that I was not very popular in school, due to being a dirty leftist with empathy.

      I will say that my immediate family is not religious, not conservative, and they are very open minded, loving and empathetic people. This is probably the main reason I was immune to the propaganda.

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        The first step to falling for the propaganda is believing that you’re immune to the propaganda.

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    They’re very stupid. Most adults have reading comprehension below a 6th grade level

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      Most adults think they have a higher than average IQ, too. Quite the coincidence, don’t you think?

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    Even people who want private healthcare don’t want valid claims denied or price greedflation. They aren’t inherently conflicting stances.

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    Surveys seem to suggest Luigi approval isn’t that high, something like 18% overall and 41% for youth.

    Actually, that 41% would be the more questionable vote but then again both parties love insurance companies so there really isn’t a clear way to vote for universal healthcare, lol