The DM was a DM asking us to change our no tankies policy and remove the fuck tankies banner as it was apparently upsetting hexbear users. Apparently tankies view the word tankie as a form of slur. The admin wants us to ally as a form of “left solidarity”

  • Moss@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOPM
    156·
    1 year ago

    Now personally I think we have the word takie pretty well defined in our rules and have no intention of changing it. Fuck tankies, they don’t belong here.
    I didn’t write fuck commies, or fuck libtards, (I am a vocal socialist and very far left) or anything like that, the banner is specifically about pro-auth dictator-worshipping tankies.

  • toothbrush@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    136·
    1 year ago

    some people want to post here but are repelled by “fuck tankies?”

    good.

    that is the intended functionality of the banner.

    Generally speaking, people offended by this are either:

    • libs that dont understand the distinction between tankie and communist or have been misinformed by tankies on what its supposed to mean, but are pro communism(wierd combination?)

    • the “CCCP did nothing wrong” people

    maybe having something leftist in the banner or some place like that could help the former, but I wouldnt remove the message, as it acts as a soft filter for the latter.

  • Glide
    120·
    1 year ago

    Tankies mad they’re being called tankies?

    Drawing a comparison to the use of “woke” is fucking hilarious. Only one of those terms is actually an insult, and the insinuation that both of those terms are the same says a lot about their perspective.

  • ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    95·
    1 year ago

    The fact they feel the phrase fuck tankies is acting as a barrier to their participation in 196 should be a wake up call for them to examine their political views.

    Unlike their use of the word liberal, which they use to refer to everyone to the right of them on the political spectrum, we are using the word tankie for a single specific group. Tankie means authoritarian communist. Please keep the sign.

  • Depress_Mode@lemmy.world
    81·
    1 year ago

    Yeah, definitely not. “Tankie” isn’t some mostly meaningless word like “woke”, it’s a very specific belief in authoritarian self-declared, so-called “communist” states (USSR, China, North Korea, et al).

    They claim to be for revolution and then turn around and give 100% blind obedience to the newly installed leaders. Pointing out their immense power or bad actions gets you called brainwashed, a reactionary, or counter-revolutionary. They win gold in mental gymnastics in regards to how the new ruling class totally doesn’t count as a ruling class, how the state doesn’t count as a state, how the money doesn’t count as money, and how it’s still communism even though not a single one of those prerequisites has ever been met.

    They don’t take down systems of oppression, they replace them and refuse to believe it isn’t the greatest idea anyone’s ever had. Here’s a hint: if your “revolutionary” party demands absolute loyalty, they probably aren’t as great as they say.

    • protist@mander.xyzEnglish
      12·
      1 year ago

      I totally agree with your definition here, but I’d add there are some on the right who use this term to describe and dismiss almost anyone on the left. The right consistently wages war on language, co-opting words with existing definitions and changing them to suit their agenda. “Woke” is one example of this, as is “critical race theory.”

      • SkyezOpen@lemmy.world
        26·
        1 year ago

        I don’t think I’ve ever seen a mainstream right wing talking head say “tankie” and frankly I’d be impressed if they even admitted they knew the difference between the various factions of the left instead of grouping them all together. Seriously, “liberal” and “Marxist” are completely interchangeable in right rhetoric.

  • Hubi@feddit.de
    68·
    1 year ago

    Imagine simping for a genocidal Russia with their homophobic and transphobic laws and still wanting to post on 196. Good on you for keeping the banner up. Fuck tankies.

    • theodewere@kbin.social
      21·
      1 year ago

      but… but… BUT THE NUANCES!! :‘’(

      a world without nuance, is a world without meaning for these guys… you know that… c’mon…

  • mashbooq@infosec.pub
    55·
    1 year ago

    I think if a person feels offended by a generic “fuck tankies” in the banner, then that person is probably a tankie. Fuck tankies.

  • Ilovethebomb@lemmy.world
    49·
    1 year ago

    They, and their Lemmygrad bretheren, can fuck right off. When they’re not minimising atrocities, they’re writing absolute fucking treatsies on communist theory, and in general, acting like insufferable twats.

  • tfw_no_toiletpaper@feddit.de
    44·
    1 year ago

    Yeah no, the last time I saw a discussion with a large percentage of hexbear user’s, they were all praising Putin, it wasn’t even on 196. So fuck them

    • EremesZorn@beehaw.org
      2·
      1 year ago

      They shouldn’t have a voice anywhere and they should be demonized and persecuted just like right-wingers.
      The only thing I hate as much as a flag-waving Trump troglodyte is anyone that has even a passing positive remark about China or Russia. They are geopolitical enemies. To me, solidarity with them marks you as either an enemy or a traitor.

  • The dogspaw @midwest.socialEnglish
    42·
    1 year ago

    I think all instances should block the tankies treat them the same as you would alt right because really there no different they both support facist ideologies