I just read opinion articles (for those that don’t know, opinion articles are intended to bridge the gap; they’re articles papers publish to share angles the editors disagree with). The problem is honest conservative media is basically gone. The sides have diverged to little more than fact vs fiction. Even the opinion articles can get totally ridiculous at times.
The problem is honest conservative media is basically gone.
Yep. And it’s frustrating, because it also makes it harder to engage with people who are on the edge or might be drawn back to a more sane position, when you can’t say “So I read this article, and I think I understand where you’re coming from…” when there are so, so few sources which aren’t totally divorced from reality.
Ground.news does a good job of presenting both sides, and even has a blind spot feature
It’s also nice that it shows you how the left, centre and right uses different words in the title of a story.
I started using this recently and it seems to work pretty well. I’d love to know more about how they pick out the topics
The Onion
The onion covers more layers than any other outlet.
I used to follow /r/Canadianhousing2 on reddit. Very right wing, conservative, simplistic views on the housing crisis in Canada. I realized eventually it was a cesspool of hate and racism and stopped.
For a brief shining moment it seemed like the first Canadian housing subreddit might actually have an effect. And then it imploded. So we had to wait another few years for politicians to catch up and do almost nothing.
I’m glad you got out of there.
The BBC, NPR and the NY Times. NPR in their effort to seem unbiased allows Republicans to frame the discussion of all things political and NPR participates rather than calling out obvious falsehoods or reframing any issue around facts. I bucket them firmly in the neoliberal controlled opposition camp. The NYT has become yet another corporate mouthpiece and the BBC does whatever they do. I never paid much attention to CNN but I engage with them even less now that they’ve switched to FOX’s manufactured outrage “entertainment” model rather than engaging in journalism.
So, uh, all of those? I can’t handle popular Republican “news” sources, they tend to twist facts in the name of this week’s political expediency or simply lie.
Edit: I’d like to say “literally any corporate news source” here too, all of them present a view of the world that reinforces their owners’ worldview and/or lobbies in their interest. All media should be carefully evaluated for a slant that benefits the owner of the publication regardless of their apparent political stance.
No news source matches my political perspectives, so all of them, I guess.
Same
(moderate left, for reference)
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BBC. Mildly right-wing, very national POV.
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WSJ… sometimes. There’s definitely points where they become utterly insufferable, but sometimes it can be helpful for an insight into the approach of a business-centric, right wing POV.
Really, as a moderate lefty, the collapse of the right-wing movement in the US into its current state has made it very difficult to find reasonable sources from the opposing side. Even “mainstream” right-wing sources take a lot of the batshit stuff at face value, or try and excuse off the more overtly insane elements.
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I don’t pay attention to news sources.
To clarify, by news sources I mean this in broad terms, so from wherever you may get info about what’s going on around you, or the world in general.
To clarify, the term news to me translates to an organization whose purpose is to interpret events that could otherwise be better observed by going to primary sources oneself.
This. That’s why I spend a lot of time riding around on my bicycle in my city, trying to see what’s going on for myself.
I watch a lot of CNN (I am a progressive), because I like to yell at the TV. You can’t convince me that CNN (and all corporate media really) is not just blatant controlled opposition
I’m trying to be better about checking out content in the Ground News app to see some right wing content. Not great about right now though. I don’t want to go to any communities because, especially when it’s detached from the news sources, they always come off as next level crazy. Sometimes the news does too, but at least the grammar is decent.
+1 for Ground News. I recently found it and am enjoying using it.
Lemmy, and a few people on Substack
Politically, I’m pretty much right in the middle. The only news source I follow is fairly neutral, with a slight left-wing bias, whereas Lemmy leans heavily to the left. On the other hand, the podcasts I listen to tend to lean more right, so I’d say I get a balanced diet of views from both sides. This probably explains why, on most political topics, I don’t usually have a strong opinion one way or the other. Whether I’m seen as leaning left or right really depends on the group I’m with. On Lemmy, for instance, I’m basically considered far-right.
What is your neutral news source? What podcasts that lean right?
Yle.fi which is Finnish state media, similar to BBC.
Joe Rogan Experience, Modern Wisdom, Making Sense, Lex Fridman Podcast to name a few I listen to the most.
I use ground news so I read a center one and skim a few others for differences
I like to read the Beaverton and check out the Rhinoceros party. They often have the best takes of our time.
Follow is a strong word, I don’t follow any news sources. Used to be able to read the conservative leaning newspaper here, it was OK, literally just a different perspective. It’s long gone. Reason was ok, sometimes a little hysterical now but still pretty ok, it’s where I look to get a conservative/libertarian viewpoint.
