Hurricane recovery officials in N.C. relocated amid report of ‘armed militia… out hunting FEMA.’

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        Well fuck all y’all! I’m going home!

        You know, I watched my wife work all day gettin’ thirty bags together for you ungrateful sons of bitches!

        And all I can hear is criticize, criticize, criticize! From now on, don’t ask me or mine for nothin’!

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        I immediately went to the Rorschach-inspired masked gang from the Watchmen show.

        Though that’s very obviously playing off of the Klan and modern Militias.

        God, I remember a bunch of my old ‘friends’ noping out of that show by the end of episode 2 or 3, because it was ‘obviously politically biased’ and ‘waaay too farfetched’, ‘of course they made the Rorschach guys into racists’.

        Yep.

        Totally implausible and needlessly mean spirited portrayal.

        Definitely no connection to real life racist yokel moral absolutist hypocrite conspiricists.

        It’s particularly amazing because this group fashioned themselves movie buffs, often going into trivia around what various actors, directors and what not said in interviews about their own work and methods, differences between different cuts of movies or how true they were to the events or works that inspired them.

        Guess they just conveniently dismissed what Alan Moore said about reception of Rorschach.

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      A bunch of weak cowardly racist assholes… It shows they know what they’re doing is wrong & fear the repercussions of their actions.

      The “alpha male” personas they’re trying to shovel, the moment they’re upset about anything they immediately turn into cry babies. They’re literally a cult following a orange turd with dementia.

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    Ah, the banal evil of conservatism in play. With only a few idiots, they hurt entire communities who are desperate for aid.

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    No talk of sending the national guard in to “quell” them, yet, it seems. How unlike the response to the George Floyd protests…

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      This group has guns of their own, they don’t want to risk someone getting hurt, and would rather target the unarmed minorities instead.

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            Yay! Hold on a minute while I grab a blanket and some hot tea.

            JK. I didn’t continue with the article because the very first thing I read is how they’re using a 10 year old picture of a completely different group, from another state to get clicks. That kind of put me off because it’s very click-baitey. I’ll go read it if you say that it’s otherwise good, with solid source.

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    It’s a Good Thing these people are ONLY trying to Murder Federal Disaster Relief Agents! IMAGINE what might happen if they were a Black Kid with a Backpack!

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      On a side note, I don’t think these white hoods hide a lot of black faces beneath them.

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        Those white hoods aren’t related to the people in question. To garner clicks, the article used a picture of a completely unrelated group from Wyoming.

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          You might be right about the image, but I wouldn’t go so far as to say they’re completely unrelated.

          I’mma go ahead and assume the people hunting FEMA and the people in this image have lot of shared political views.

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            I’m not just guessing, they said so in the article:

            Note: The group pictured above was in Wyoming, not North Carolina. The picture is 10+ years old. They opposed Federal plans to reintroduce wolves. I cannot find any pictures of the group in North Carolina that is the subject of this diary. I suspect that they would be camera-shy. I have edited the photo to mask out the dead body of a wolf, apparently shot by this group. Some commenters said that the unedited photo was too graphic.)

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              Sure, I’ll give you that.

              I’m still sticking with the assumption of mostly shared political beliefs, though.

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    Its worth pointing out they’re doing this because if the Biden admin effectively helps people in states like NC, FL, GA it could win Harris the election.

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      It’s also worth pointing out that the other side will say “see this is why we don’t need FEMA, they didn’t get timely aid to these parts”

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    I think I put my thought poorly. Negligent would.have been a better word.

    FEMA was hamstrung, but “doing the best with what you have” and “doing a great job” arent the same thing and thats likely the perception a bunch of guys who will grab guns and jump in the back of a pickup have. “FEMA screwed up Katrina and we arent going to let them do it to us!”

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    That’s quite the picture, but there’s no snow in NC right now. Also, as crazy as this is, FEMA has a little bit of a reputation that has contributed to this.

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        I think I see the source of your confusion and I can help to clear it up!

        See, you start with the conclusion “the government is bad because my pastor told me so and I can’t think for myself” and then you work backwards from there. The justifications don’t have to make any sense because you already started from the conclusion.

        Hope this helps.

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        I mean Katrina was pretty much a balls-up by everyone involved and

        Not saying FEMA was negligent it just showed how woefully under prepared for an actual huge crisis they were. (I believe they did try their best) these idiots just remember FEMA not immediately solving all the problems and arent letting FEMA do it to them! Thats why they probably feel (wrongly) justified.

        *Edited for clarity. *

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          You’re right, When Katrina hit in 2005, it was a major cock up. The agency was underfunded, and unprepared.
          Famously, a certain scumbag traumatized Mike Meyers by saying George Bush doesn’t care about black people on national TV.

          Obama spent much of this two terms improving FEMA to improve funding and readiness of the agency. Much to the chagrin of the press, who made much ado about FEMA’s ‘zombie outbreak’ plan.

          When COVID hit, I recall all the hoopla around FEMA and how they were utterly unprepared, and that it became clear that the stockpiles and plans that had been created under Obama had been ignored, destroyed, or left to rot under Trump. I remember a common headline was that Trump “‘Ripped up’ Obama’s FEMA playbook.”

          Since then, the agency has been a political vehicle, where democrats wants to fund it to get on top of COVID, and republicans don’t, so they can claim democrats are just as bad as they were at responding to COVID.

          Which is all to say - it’s not the agency, it’s the politics, and moreso than that, it’s the people who are stupid enough to think it’s the agency and not the politics.

          People out in the sticks of Appalachia who are informed by targeted disinfo campaigns don’t give two shits about the victims of Katrina or any of the actual past failures of FEMA. They care about perceived failures of FEMA and what they think FEMA is doing and what it stands for, based on the information bubble the algorithm has picked out for them.

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      The photo caption mentions that is from a group in Wyoming.
      Presumably the group in NC is still figuring out a social media person.

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        I’m not giving dailykos a click. I don’t see that caption on the Lemmy post. I’ll take your word for it though.

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            Good. As much as I’m a huge critic of FEMA, these people going after them are insane and breaking the law.

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          I mean, sure, hate whatever media outlet you wish.
          You don’t have to believe what they report, and you don’t have to even bother with reading with what they report, but you offered your thoughts without reading the article, not me.

          Best to move on without commenting, or even attempting inferences based on the photo or headline in that circumstance, isn’t it? Otherwise you risk misunderstanding, falling victim to misinformation, or even creating your own misinformation.
          I wonder if anyone read your comment, and skipped the article with the assumption that ‘liberal’ news outlets are manufacturing reports of anti-FEMA sentiment.

          Well, at least if they don’t also read the article, they’ll know why there’s snow in the photo - assuming they read my initial reply comment. At least there’s that!

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            Ironically the photo is misinformation, or just clickbait. It depicts a group from Wyoming who was opposed to the reintroduction of wolves, not the people hunting FEMA. They grabbed a random scary looking picture and used it for their article.

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              I’m not sure if I agree about misinformation, but the photo is definitely clickbait. However, highlighting that it’s clickbait, and - as you’ve done - offering context about the real story of the photo (which I didn’t know) is, well, great. It identifies the issue without leaving it up to question as to what the issue is.

              And that’s where you differ from the other commenter. They left things pretty darn vague, and I didn’t like the impression they seemed to be building toward - especially as their comment ended with a statement that I took to mean that they were justifying violence against FEMA workers, right after expressing doubt for the validity of the photo.
              Which is well-placed doubt, but I mean - read the article, which explains things, don’t just assume and make ill-informed comments. When I make a mistake, I just shrug and go “Ah, crap, you’re right” rather than double down and go ‘Well, I’ll never read anything from the publisher anyway[, even though I’ll spend time and effort commenting on it]!’

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                What I took from their comments is that they’re alt-right and they’ve been told to hate FEMA, so they hate FEMA. There’s not really any reason to continue talking to someone who only has opinions they’re told to have, and dismisses any other information.

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            I didn’t say anything like what you represented me to have said, but nice strawman. Left media isn’t manufacturing reports of anti-FEMA sentiment. Right media has been manufacturing anti-FEMA sentiment ever since FEMA botched the Katrina response in 100 different ways. Confusion, blocking relief supplies, illegally seizing legally owned weapons. There are whole webpages dedicated to exposing and defunding FEMA.