• EvolvedTurtle@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    The issue I have Is when there whole character is that they are a minority

    Like I love Ashoka but Ray Skywalker is just boring

    Now when people hate on actual good characters like Samus That’s when alarms should be sounded

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      I love how Rey could have been an example of how the force can manifest in anyone . But instead she’s Palpatine’s granddaughter so never mind turns out it’s just hereditary lol. They had it all setup and then fumbled it.

      It’s kind of amazing how shitty episode 7-9 are. The franchise made a profit on momentum alone.

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          That could have been retconned with ease, just say the Jedi were dumbasses who thought the midichlorians were focusing the force, rather than being say micro organisms that feed on it. Just have it bw noted in a Plagius centered story since he was probably the only one actively researching it.

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        They had it all setup and then fumbled it.

        Well, no. JJ Abrams had some bullshit vaguely scribbled out in the margins - probably the Palpatine nonsense. The actual movie was promising.

        Rian Johnson accepted everything the first movie did and gave different answers. The answers were fantastic! The movie was… okay.

        JJ then went nuh uh! nuh uh! and crammed eighteen different half-baked ideas into a MacGuffin chase that made absolutely everything worse. The movie was so pretty, and the movie was so dumb.

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            “Minority” in this context does not mean having a smaller population. Minority means a group of people that have been historically oppressed or persecuted.

            Women are a special kind of minority because even though they make up the majority of population worldwide, they’ve faced oppression for centuries.

            Another example would be white people in South Africa—even though they are a minority as a percent, they still aren’t a minority because they don’t face oppression.

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                  Are “political minority” and “minority” somehow indistinguishable? Why pretend like one automatically means the other?

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                Women are undeniably a minority when it comes to being represented in politics/media in general. It’s only in recent history that women have had any meaningful presence in terms of representation in those regards.

                They’re a minority in terms of representation because of said disenfranchisement.

            • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝@sopuli.xyz
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              Most of humanity has faced oppression for millennia. Most of humanity still does to varying degrees. All genders and ages and colours of people.

              I don’t see how celebrating a literal English aristocrat - Ridley’s family are landed gentry, she was born in literal Westminster - is a victory against oppression or is righting any wrongs.

              Building bridges through society and fixing actual problems instead of playing oppression olympics and labelling everyone six times over would go much further towards actual equity.

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      The trend of “let’s make a woke cast of characters that are all from different cultural backgrounds!!111” and then completely abandoning good storytelling and worldbuilding is maddening.

      I get there have always been garbage stories but most of the failures have all been from replacing a good story with ideology. You can’t just abandon good story with established world logic and expect fans to not be up in arms. For some reason people forget that the only reason why characters become idols is because of the great stories they are in, not because the character looks like xyz (though cool character design does score some points too.)

      I don’t really have many videogame examples of this stuff, just movies and tv shows. Games can usually get away with a bad story and good gameplay or perhaps vice versa. Movies and TV have no gameplay (depth) to fall back on.