• AgreeableLandscape@lemmy.mlM
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    Also, critically, the majority of Mainland Chinese people (as surveyed by Western organisations like Harvard), support the CPC, think that they represent their interests and values, and believe that their future is better with the CPC than without.

    Therefore, one, the Chinese people in China don’t want or need your white saviour complex. Two, this notion that the people and the government exist as separate, independent entities where you can hate one and love the other, is entirely nonsensical.

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      It’s just a variant of the “hate the sin, love the sinner” lie that fundie types have had going on all my life.

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      Also, critically, the majority of Mainland Chinese people (as surveyed by Western organisations like Harvard), support the CPC

      This information would have been useful if people in China were not forbidden from not supporting it.

      Therefore, one, the Chinese people in China don’t want or need your white saviour complex.

      So then why would they need a communist party, which brings the message of salvation from a white European man? You call that representing Chinese values?

      Two, this notion that the people and the government exist as separate, independent entities where you can hate one and love the other, is entirely nonsensical.

      People everywhere in the world hate their governments. That’s quite normal. In the USA there are people who hate the US government but it doesn’t mean they hate themselves. A government is not this kind of sacrosanct symbol or representation of the nation as you are claiming, unless you believe in fascism where the state is supposedly this kind of unquestionable embodiment. In the USA that notion of, “If you question the government you hate America,” was held very strongly by the far-right. I would say it’s a far-right value.

      In any case, well-off people who sit atop a powerful and wealthy state are not in the same class as the working poor. Xi Jinping doesn’t work. He’s just a wealthy politician. His wealth is supported by the impoverished Chinese who sleep in the factories where they work. Then you tell me, that I must love the CPC in order to love China? No thanks. China existed for thousands of years without it and will in the future will continue to do so.